Foot Squires aren't peasants??!

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Check out the screen shot...Foot squires are counted as peasant units...this makes no sense. Bretonnian knights wouldn't have squires (who BECOME knights) be peasants. Squires are royalty..
A foot squire should be of knightly blood...or atleast from a respectable family. They should NOT be peasants and thus shouldn't count towards the peasant unit cap thing

[Reverend Belial]

The entire concept of Foot Squires is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up anyway, just disregard anything related to them for lore's sake.

[FieserMoep]

Originally posted by Reverend Belial:

just disregard anything related to them for lore's sake.

CA is allowed to create Lore in that regard.
Also NO faction has anything resembling a Lore-Friendly state anyway.

[FieserMoep]

If we count all bugs as intentional game design the thread will never stop.

[Mr Conspicuous]

+1

[AriDeer]

Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:

Originally posted by FieserMoep:

CA is allowed to create Lore in that regard.
Also NO faction has anything resembling a Lore-Friendly state anyway.

It directly contradicts their own "lore" though lol. A unit that is described as being noble counts as a peasant unit, go figure..

5th ed states bret squries are peasents that one that lotto and get castle duty, rare among them get promoted to errant.

That is fifth, it seems to be what this bret is leaning back towards when CA redid the lore since fifth bret is actually hella more expanded then 6th

[Darkaiser]

"The role of the Medieval Squires during the Medieval times of the Middle Ages was an important step to achieving the status of a Knight. The Medieval Squire was a servant to a knight during the Medieval times and era. The Norman predecessor of what came to be known as squire were called Armigers. Medieval Squires had already served 7 years in the role of a page before moving to the role of a Squire at the age of 14 years old. As a page he was viewed as a boy, and looked after by the ladies of the court or castle. Medieval Squires were viewed as young men and had reached the age of puberty, their first step towards manhood. The care of the Medieval Squires moved from the Medieval ladies to the Knights. This page describes how was a life of a squire in the medieval times. The word Squire is derived from the French words "Esquire, Escuyer" which originally meant 'shield bearer'. In later years the term gradually moved away from the meaning of apprentice knight and on to mean a country gentleman of some standing."

A squire did not HAVE to be nobility. He could be a member of the peasantry that had distinguished himself in some way.

Please don't try to bring real life into a fantasy game...

[FieserMoep]

Huh, well there is a lore corpse yet again.

[AriDeer]

Originally posted by Darkaiser:

"The role of the Medieval Squires during the Medieval times of the Middle Ages was an important step to achieving the status of a Knight. The Medieval Squire was a servant to a knight during the Medieval times and era. The Norman predecessor of what came to be known as squire were called Armigers. Medieval Squires had already served 7 years in the role of a page before moving to the role of a Squire at the age of 14 years old. As a page he was viewed as a boy, and looked after by the ladies of the court or castle. Medieval Squires were viewed as young men and had reached the age of puberty, their first step towards manhood. The care of the Medieval Squires moved from the Medieval ladies to the Knights. This page describes how was a life of a squire in the medieval times. The word Squire is derived from the French words "Esquire, Escuyer" which originally meant 'shield bearer'. In later years the term gradually moved away from the meaning of apprentice knight and on to mean a country gentleman of some standing."

A squire did not HAVE to be nobility. He could be a member of the peasantry that had distinguished himself in some way.

Please don't try to bring real life into a fantasy game...

Fantasy actually supports them not being nobility.

[Shandor]

Its the same thing for ghouls beeing undead. Or tomb king Hierophants beeing undead. In fact they are not. But to make the rules more easy to read, write and play they got the lable undead.

Not a big deal.

[Kroq-Gar-Mundi]

Originally posted by Shandor:

Its the same thing for ghouls beeing undead. Or tomb king Hierophants beeing undead. In fact they are not. But to make the rules more easy to read, write and play they got the lable undead.

Not a big deal.

It is sort of a big deal whenever foot squires play a major part in your battle efficacy for a considerable portion of the campaign. It is a massive draw back to have them affect your peasant economy.

Originally posted by Darkaiser:

"The role of the Medieval Squires during the Medieval times of the Middle Ages was an important step to achieving the status of a Knight. The Medieval Squire was a servant to a knight during the Medieval times and era. The Norman predecessor of what came to be known as squire were called Armigers. Medieval Squires had already served 7 years in the role of a page before moving to the role of a Squire at the age of 14 years old. As a page he was viewed as a boy, and looked after by the ladies of the court or castle. Medieval Squires were viewed as young men and had reached the age of puberty, their first step towards manhood. The care of the Medieval Squires moved from the Medieval ladies to the Knights. This page describes how was a life of a squire in the medieval times. The word Squire is derived from the French words "Esquire, Escuyer" which originally meant 'shield bearer'. In later years the term gradually moved away from the meaning of apprentice knight and on to mean a country gentleman of some standing."

A squire did not HAVE to be nobility. He could be a member of the peasantry that had distinguished himself in some way.

Please don't try to bring real life into a fantasy game...

You know what is funny about that? He is then no longer a peasant. A lot of you are reading out some stuff to make your points even though it is contradicting to what you want to prove. They USED to be peasants. But at the age of 7, they become something a little more. Then at the age of 14, I doubt anyone would call a squire a peasant. 7 years of royal initiative has been placed in them, and only more time, money, and effort, in the years to come. They are NOT peasants. A peasant can die and no one will care because their mother has 7 other children to offer up to the war effort. Guess what they don't have? Nearly as many professionally trained, equipped, and motivated soldiers. AKA Knights and their Squires.

[RCMidas]

There are many things to say about this, but first and foremost:

It's been FOUR years, dude. Nice necro.

[EnemigoDeLaMafia]

Anything that is not a knight is counted as peasants. Trebuchets, I think the relic too, the pilgrims, etc.