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You gotta use them carefully , if shet happens buff them with jade wizard buffs +60 armor does wonders. Or get light/gray/arch lector buffs to buff them.
Using them as flankers or replacement for frontlines is very good.
you want your frontline to have good meelee defense, and halberdiers provide that
can be even made better if you invest 3 points in honest steel
why halberdiers, and not spearmen (shields) to assist versus missiles?
because missiles should never be an issue as the empire, you have rockets and mortars to make short work of any low-armoured units (skirmishers)
also, halberdiers, do have good armour piercing damage!!!
let the halberdiers engage the enemy elite from the front (their good meelee defense will shine) then move your greatswords to the flank, the enemy is now getting attacked by 2 units that deal armour piercing damage, and the greatswords have an additional bonus to fight infantry
there is not much in the game that can stand it's ground versus such combination
You know, something to just hold the line as a tough wall while the ranged/cavalry do their damage.
I dont see why empire has two higher tier infantry units that are rather fragile and damage oriented when the empire already has a ton of damage from range and cavalry.
The only thing the empire needs from infantry is a tough durable wall that will not quickly die or run away from equal tier enemies.
i would not like the empire to have such unit
every faction plays different, because the units are different
if every faction should have an elite tier offense, an elite tier defence, elite tier cavalry, elite tier artillery
then every faction would play the same, but just look different
if this is what you want, then i suggest rome 2 total war were every faction has elite tier
you want to play romans? sure here praetorian guard
you want to play averni? sure here oathsworn
you want to play suebi? sure here swordmasters
see, how this makes no sense from a strategic point of view? same unit, same "task" just a different skin
so be happy that warhammer factions, are unique and let's keep them that way
and your first mistake is allready how you compare units
both halberdiers and greatswords, are unlocked faster then true elite units that are often tier 4 or even tier 5
while halberdiers are tier 3 (armoury) and greatswords are tier 4 (blacksmith)
so they are unlocked faster, and by the time enemy can bring "true" elite troops, your greatswords should allready be veteran rank 2-3+ (or more, depending on howmuch starting ranks you aim for when recruiting, it's possible to recruit units allready at rank 7 when you specialise)
Me, too. But then you have to understand that CA is somewhat constrained by the fact that it has to roughly follow the tabletop game in terms of coming up with units and abilities. And on the tabletop, Empire infantry is terrible, and Greatswords are its only (somewhat) elite infantry. If you really want elite shield infantry for them, then pick up one of the various mods that has the Reiksguard footknights.
Dude; it's less than two months old...
It's obviously not dead as it got a whole 3rd page worth of replies after the "necro."
It's based on an opinion, so it can't really be right or wrong. (An opinion most people agree with it would seem.)
Also, where is it wrong exactly? Empire Greatswords do lose 1 on 1 to any other elite heavy infantry.
Are people really surprised more expensive (26% more expensive) armoured ap infantry (same category as greatswords) will beat them?
Btw, it's still on one page for me :)
Surprised? No, I'm not anyways. Empire is generally a jack of all trases/master of none balance wise. In my opinion Greatswords don't really need to be able to 1v1 other elite units since they shouldn't have to do so without support from ranged, arty, cav, etc...
Are you implying that since you have it set to 50 per page instead of 15 that means less people have responded? Surely not. My point still stands, the thread has recieved plenty of responses since it "died" and is still a topic that people are obviously interested in discussing.