Exanima

Exanima

Sunblade Dec 29, 2024 @ 6:05pm
so will this ever be released?
kinda cringe that the notes in the game in steam say " early access stat will be around 6 months..." its ten year s now.... looks kinda okayish, but is it worth to buy?
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spaceweezle Dec 29, 2024 @ 7:08pm 
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Been following it for years myself. Since it was first released actually. Game apparently still looks and plays like a demo.

I lament that they didn't outsource it or opensource it years ago. We likely would have had 500% of the content that exists now if that happened.

Could never bring myself to buy it as there's really not a lot to it. Very little in terms of gameplay continuity. Very little in terms of world design and world-building. Scope of progression ultimately very low.

Granted I'm someone who does not enjoy short-lived rinse & repeat style games. If I'm going to put effort into learning intricate and unconventional combat then I want there to be some continuity there.

Well, such is the reason I never bought it. At this point it makes sense to mark it off as abandonware. Those yearly/bi-yearly updates not adding anything of substance. Seems more like mild tweaking and no actual content.
DarkHorizon Dec 29, 2024 @ 10:09pm 
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bought this game in 2017 i compare the purchase to being one of the first to buy bitcoin it just keeps getting better and better

its cheap and offers a unique experience ESPECIALLY FOR THE PRICE.

how do you people have such horrible opinions its crazy.



i guess it makes sense OP is a hen tie addict.

this game is the definition of labor of love no im not D riding, the ambition the devs have for this game, you wont see many as dedicated.
fracs Dec 29, 2024 @ 10:17pm 
Originally posted by spaceweezle:
Been following it for years myself. Since it was first released actually. Game apparently still looks and plays like a demo.

I lament that they didn't outsource it or opensource it years ago. We likely would have had 500% of the content that exists now if that happened.

Could never bring myself to buy it as there's really not a lot to it. Very little in terms of gameplay continuity. Very little in terms of world design and world-building. Scope of progression ultimately very low.

Granted I'm someone who does not enjoy short-lived rinse & repeat style games. If I'm going to put effort into learning intricate and unconventional combat then I want there to be some continuity there.

Well, such is the reason I never bought it. At this point it makes sense to mark it off as abandonware. Those yearly/bi-yearly updates not adding anything of substance. Seems more like mild tweaking and no actual content.
None of that is true.
Game in its current state has plenty of content in stroy mode as well as in arena.
spaceweezle Dec 29, 2024 @ 11:05pm 
Originally posted by fracs:
None of that is true.
Game in its current state has plenty of content in stroy mode as well as in arena.

Watched a complete LP just recently. Whole campaign was not even 3 hours.

For someone who typically gets a bare minimum of several hundred hours from games, that is quite abysmal.

Always thought the game had a stunning amount of potential, But at 3-5 hours, it's not something I would even bother with. Triple the amount of levels the game currently has and I might be inclined to try it.

Most demo's I've played actually exceed the amount of content on offer here. Worse is that I don't see hardly any replay value in story mode itself.
fracs Dec 29, 2024 @ 11:21pm 
Originally posted by spaceweezle:
Originally posted by fracs:
None of that is true.
Game in its current state has plenty of content in stroy mode as well as in arena.

Watched a complete LP just recently. Whole campaign was not even 3 hours.

For someone who typically gets a bare minimum of several hundred hours from games, that is quite abysmal.

Always thought the game had a stunning amount of potential, But at 3-5 hours, it's not something I would even bother with. Triple the amount of levels the game currently has and I might be inclined to try it.

Most demo's I've played actually exceed the amount of content on offer here. Worse is that I don't see hardly any replay value in story mode itself.
In order to do this in 3-5 hours a player must know his way around the game, be familiar with combat and intentionally rush towards next level.
For new player it will take 30-40 hours to 100% explore each level and arena.
spaceweezle Dec 29, 2024 @ 11:34pm 
Originally posted by fracs:
Originally posted by spaceweezle:

Watched a complete LP just recently. Whole campaign was not even 3 hours.

For someone who typically gets a bare minimum of several hundred hours from games, that is quite abysmal.

Always thought the game had a stunning amount of potential, But at 3-5 hours, it's not something I would even bother with. Triple the amount of levels the game currently has and I might be inclined to try it.

Most demo's I've played actually exceed the amount of content on offer here. Worse is that I don't see hardly any replay value in story mode itself.
In order to do this in 3-5 hours a player must know his way around the game, be familiar with combat and intentionally rush towards next level.
For new player it will take 30-40 hours to 100% explore each level and arena.

Assuming this is true, 30-40 hours is still not my idea of a worthwhile purchase. In that context it's just grinding away at the same content in a rather stagnant unchanging environment.

Quite disappointing how little variance and nuance there is. Always find the same items and in the same locations, same amounts of items, predictable static enemy placements. And the level design itself being painfully drab and generic.

I thought this stuff would have been improved upon years ago. I could envision some stunning new locations and encounters. The gameplay loop as it exists is an extremely solitary affair with the game from end-to-end looking like the tutorial area in Oblivion.

That's great if you like it. My standards and expectations are just slightly higher apparently.
big fella Dec 29, 2024 @ 11:39pm 
its 10 bucks dude. You've got AAA 100 hour timewaster style brain rot if 40 hours is somehow not enough for a unique game like this.
fracs Dec 29, 2024 @ 11:51pm 
Originally posted by spaceweezle:
Originally posted by fracs:
In order to do this in 3-5 hours a player must know his way around the game, be familiar with combat and intentionally rush towards next level.
For new player it will take 30-40 hours to 100% explore each level and arena.



Quite disappointing how little variance and nuance there is. Always find the same items and in the same locations, same amounts of items, predictable static enemy placements. And the level design itself being painfully drab and generic.

Loot from chests is randomised as well as item quality enemies wear. Each level design after level 3 looks different, has unique opponents and features. Enemies are not static they walk around and may even fight each other.
spaceweezle Dec 29, 2024 @ 11:55pm 
Originally posted by big fella:
its 10 bucks dude. You've got AAA 100 hour timewaster style brain rot if 40 hours is somehow not enough for a unique game like this.

Except, as I just mentioned, it's not 40 hours. It's 3 hours of content with finicky controls with plot advancement dictated by finding keys in random places. I wouldn't consider that content myself.

With a mentality like that, it's really no wonder that the devs thought it acceptable to flounder for so long.

Originally posted by fracs:
Loot from chests is randomised as well as item quality enemies wear. Each level design after level 3 looks different, has unique opponents and features. Enemies are not static they walk around and may even fight each other.

No it's only very partially randomized. It is for the most part static and extremely predictable. Quite evident when watching people totally ignore 80% of containers. All meaningful items are static with only potions being randomized.
fracs Dec 30, 2024 @ 12:08am 
Originally posted by spaceweezle:
Originally posted by big fella:
its 10



Originally posted by fracs:
Loot from chests is randomised as well as item quality enemies wear. Each level design after level 3 looks different, has unique opponents and features. Enemies are not static they walk around and may even fight each other.

No it's only very partially randomized. It is for the most part static and extremely predictable. Quite evident when watching people totally ignore 80% of containers. All meaningful items are static with only potions being randomized.

I repeat Item quality is random now so even if you know where or what to loot it doesnt meant it will be good quality. The game now is not what it used to be in 2014. If the person whom you watched didnt loot something for reasons you dont know it doesnt mean you or me or som1 else wont need it either. And yes potions are valuable so why not gather them?
ps chests now may also contain orbs which improve item quality.
spaceweezle Dec 30, 2024 @ 12:20am 
Originally posted by fracs:
Originally posted by spaceweezle:



No it's only very partially randomized. It is for the most part static and extremely predictable. Quite evident when watching people totally ignore 80% of containers. All meaningful items are static with only potions being randomized.

I repeat Item quality is random now so even if you know where or what to loot it doesnt meant it will be good quality. The game now is not what it used to be in 2014. If the person whom you watched didnt loot something for reasons you dont know it doesnt mean you or me or som1 else wont need it either. And yes potions are valuable so why not gather them?
ps chests now may also contain orbs which improve item quality.

It is still painfully static overall. No real excitement of finding rare stuff. You will find the same things with nearly identical properties in the same locations.

Yes there is variance, but on a very small scale. It would be much cooler and more exciting if there was more item/class variance. Most of it overlaps into being functionally identical.

People hardly ever remark on finding something rare or exotic. It's more the case that they knew something of that grade would be there. Not much mystery in that.

I guess my point is that loot generation could be far more dynamic and satisfying.
fracs Dec 30, 2024 @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by spaceweezle:
Originally posted by fracs:

I repeat Item quality is random now so even if you know where or what to loot it doesnt meant it will be good quality. The game now is not what it used to be in 2014. If the person whom you watched didnt loot something for reasons you dont know it doesnt mean you or me or som1 else wont need it either. And yes potions are valuable so why not gather them?
ps chests now may also contain orbs which improve item quality.



I guess my point is that loot generation could be far more dynamic and satisfying.
Loot placement must be logical according to the environment you are in. You can't expect to loot full plate from clothing shop or lumbermill because this makes no sense.
Last edited by fracs; Dec 30, 2024 @ 12:36am
spaceweezle Dec 30, 2024 @ 1:11am 
Originally posted by fracs:
Originally posted by spaceweezle:



I guess my point is that loot generation could be far more dynamic and satisfying.
Loot placement must be logical according to the environment you are in. You can't expect to loot full plate from clothing shop or lumbermill because this makes no sense.

Nowhere did I say anything even remotely close to what you are implying there.

I said meaningful item variances with more fluid loot generation overall. No need to blatantly conflate and exaggerate.

You can still find interesting and exotic items without it breaking balance. Take Dark souls for instance. There are very rare drops like that of the black knight, with a small chance to get a cool weapon that is strong but doesn't actually break the game.

In Exanima, not only do you know exactly where to pick up items, you also know they will be relatively identical in appearance and function. Nothing really stands out in that context. It's predictable and dull.
fracs Dec 30, 2024 @ 1:19am 
Originally posted by spaceweezle:
Originally posted by fracs:
Loot placement must be logical according to the environment you are in. You can't expect to loot full plate from clothing shop or lumbermill because this makes no sense.



You can still find interesting and exotic items without it breaking balance. Take Dark souls for instance. There are very rare drops like that of the black knight, with a small chance to get a cool weapon that is strong but doesn't actually break the game.
The halberd from black knight is OP. People intentonally go for it to make the game easy. Some people run directly to loot zweihander for the same reason. How is this not dull or predictable?
Last edited by fracs; Dec 30, 2024 @ 1:19am
big fella Dec 30, 2024 @ 1:25am 
This is another bog standard bait post where the poster is actually spending their time wasting oxygen and getting a kick out of the attention it spurs.
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