Light please?

[Klarka]

Hi.
Can you please hurry up on the light magic?i Expect it to remove the absolute need for a torch... not only there is only one torch in the whole game, that can be simply lost for the entire playhtrough... but whats even the point of having shields and dual wield if you always MUST have a torch in one hand anyway? why is t he game so dark if you dont want to provide light sources?im new in the game, and apparently its like 9 years in "early" acces? how many years do you need to put light sources in the game?

[Klarka]

Publicado originalmente por Jean Valjean:

Publicado originalmente por Klarka:

Nevertheless, we still need to add lights to the game.
I saw a streamer put the torch on Derrin because he didnt want to carry it. Derring fell down a hole... guess how did the rest of that stream go.

Maybe, but the game is still largely playable. I don't think more torches or lanterns will be added, although I could be wrong, but clearly Light magic will answer that exact issue.

That's my assumption as well.. about hte light magic.. i dont understand why there couldnt be more torches. instead we get candles and chorcoal. (no you cant light them and no you cant draw/paint with it). But what if.. the light magic.. does not actually make light? What if you blast one laser or blind the target and that's it, no more light? what if it will be just a flash? like *flash* theres an enemy over there! Oh ups its dark again... *flash* He's beating you to a pulp a right now! oh ups its dark again...

[Jean Valjean]

Publicado originalmente por Klarka:

Publicado originalmente por Jean Valjean:

Maybe, but the game is still largely playable. I don't think more torches or lanterns will be added, although I could be wrong, but clearly Light magic will answer that exact issue.

That's my assumption as well.. about hte light magic.. i dont understand why there couldnt be more torches. instead we get candles and chorcoal. (no you cant light them and no you cant draw/paint with it). But what if.. the light magic.. does not actually make light? What if you blast one laser or blind the target and that's it, no more light? what if it will be just a flash? like *flash* theres an enemy over there! Oh ups its dark again... *flash* He's beating you to a pulp a right now! oh ups its dark again...

It won't be that. Maddoc himself said the first spell of the Light tree is the equivalent of a torch. For the rest, this kind of interactivity is difficult. Last time I checked, when someone asked about blood splatter on environment (which could be compared to using chalk or paint) would be way too complicated to add to their engine. Not impossible, just years of tweaking every object possible, and their variants, for the possibility of being bloody after a fight. Apparently, it is not worth the time investment and I kind of agree. Honestly, the best way to avoid people asking why they can't use chalk or paint on the environment is to remove those items from the game. Because not only are they useless, they also make players ask logical questions.

[Igthorn the Duke]

I get the frustration with not being able to use your preferred weapons all the time. However, I feel like having to choose which weapon to use at any particular moment as well as choosing the place for the fight wisely to be able to do without the torch is an important mechanic for the story mode. It also incentivizes the player to get better at using one handed weapons

[give up on life pants]

Illusion type magic, and light stuff sounds awesome. Would be a nice filler in-between being stuck with the torch all game and HAVING to find secret magic items, at the cost of bogging down your point allocation of course :P

[MindSliver]

The only place I've found light to be an issue is in levels 1 and 2. After that I've never had an issue.

[[CT] Forced Jaketh]

Theres no in game contrast or brightness options that make the game playable. I understand it might be an issue my end but considering its only this game I have an issue with and the 500 other games i have on this PC work fine it has to be something we can fix together. Be nice to recieve an official response from someone on it. Its mostly with Arena because in the campaign you can get other light sources but I think if I paid full price I deserve to be able to play the arena as well. A lot of games have a brightness slider with two images as an accessibility option, like subtitles, it helps people with disabilities or abnormalities. Im glad all you games are working fine though, at least its only me haha

[Hrafn]

Publicado originalmente por CT Forced Jaketh:

Theres no in game contrast or brightness options that make the game playable. I understand it might be an issue my end but considering its only this game I have an issue with and the 500 other games i have on this PC work fine it has to be something we can fix together. Be nice to recieve an official response from someone on it. Its mostly with Arena because in the campaign you can get other light sources but I think if I paid full price I deserve to be able to play the arena as well. A lot of games have a brightness slider with two images as an accessibility option, like subtitles, it helps people with disabilities or abnormalities. Im glad all you games are working fine though, at least its only me haha

Try posting to the Troubleshooting subforum, since it's a technical problem you are having which wouldn't be solved by any changes made to the game's mechanics

[Gangleri]

Publicado originalmente por Crayon Muncher:

theres 3 helms in the game that grant night vision, one of them is found somewhat early in the game

It's hidden behind a secret door. Sure you can find a clue for its existence but that doesn't really solve the problem for new players. It's like this one item that let's you regenrate health when getting in critical condition. Such an important item is hidden in level 4 in one of the dumbest places I've ever seen.

[dustbiter]

Publicado originalmente por Jean Valjean:

Publicado originalmente por Klarka:

That's my assumption as well.. about hte light magic.. i dont understand why there couldnt be more torches. instead we get candles and chorcoal. (no you cant light them and no you cant draw/paint with it). But what if.. the light magic.. does not actually make light? What if you blast one laser or blind the target and that's it, no more light? what if it will be just a flash? like *flash* theres an enemy over there! Oh ups its dark again... *flash* He's beating you to a pulp a right now! oh ups its dark again...

It won't be that. Maddoc himself said the first spell of the Light tree is the equivalent of a torch. For the rest, this kind of interactivity is difficult. Last time I checked, when someone asked about blood splatter on environment (which could be compared to using chalk or paint) would be way too complicated to add to their engine. Not impossible, just years of tweaking every object possible, and their variants, for the possibility of being bloody after a fight. Apparently, it is not worth the time investment and I kind of agree. Honestly, the best way to avoid people asking why they can't use chalk or paint on the environment is to remove those items from the game. Because not only are they useless, they also make players ask logical questions.

Allowing players to write on the maps can be useful, kind of like how you need writing material to make notes on the map in Zomboid.

[[CT] Forced Jaketh]

How would adding an in-game accessibility option for people with poor dark vision with a brightness slider inherently change the game mechanics? It's not just a technical issue if there is no proper way to set brightness etc inside the game. Considering its only this game I'd like a solution to do with the game not just get told I have to edit my whole nvidia control panel to play one game.

[evil ass baby]

get night vision helm in level 3, its near the beginning of the level

[Hrafn]

Publicado originalmente por CT Forced Jaketh:

How would adding an in-game accessibility option for people with poor dark vision with a brightness slider inherently change the game mechanics? It's not just a technical issue if there is no proper way to set brightness etc inside the game. Considering its only this game I'd like a solution to do with the game not just get told I have to edit my whole nvidia control panel to play one game.

Your point is valid, I just want to mention that IIRC you can use per-game settings for this purpose from the nvidia control panel.

[Jean Valjean]

Publicado originalmente por dustbiter:

Publicado originalmente por Jean Valjean:

It won't be that. Maddoc himself said the first spell of the Light tree is the equivalent of a torch. For the rest, this kind of interactivity is difficult. Last time I checked, when someone asked about blood splatter on environment (which could be compared to using chalk or paint) would be way too complicated to add to their engine. Not impossible, just years of tweaking every object possible, and their variants, for the possibility of being bloody after a fight. Apparently, it is not worth the time investment and I kind of agree. Honestly, the best way to avoid people asking why they can't use chalk or paint on the environment is to remove those items from the game. Because not only are they useless, they also make players ask logical questions.

Allowing players to write on the maps can be useful, kind of like how you need writing material to make notes on the map in Zomboid.

Of course. I don't know why it's not already in the game, but I do agree that being able to wirte notes directly on the maps would probably help new players a lot.

[Tempered]

On one playthrough, I had a glitch that ended up duping the torch. Having two torches was the best playthrough I ever had, until I fell in a hole and lost that save. I can't tell you how much game play improved just by having that 2nd torch.

[A Stranger Is Here]

I want some light too! My poor eyes are getting old (my whole body tbh) and I have to stick my face to the screen sometimes to see something, even with the brightness at max.