(Spoilers) Solving Lakeview Cabin 2

[Lupin]

Okay, so I've been messing with this for a bit, trying to see what you can do. I went with the route that I'm pretty sure most people would - focusing on following E around, having sex, having visions until the axe becomes available, killing her, etc. The chapter doesn't appear to end until you take a swing at one of the kids, at which point it fades to black and shows you a new Lakeview Cabin tape.

I also tried it the other way around, using the usual horror survival method - not having sex at all. With that, the only things I did were a) dive into the lake for the next vision, and b) check the island and every cabin for changes. This did change one thing that I'm aware of: after a certain point, E won't get into bed and the sex scene is no longer available.

That's as far as I've gotten. I thought I'd make a thread for this so that people can put their heads together. I'll start by listing everything, since Roope has shown that even the tiniest things can have something to do with the situation.

Layout

This chapter is basically set up like LVC1, if you ever played it (if not, you should!!), though this one is a bit more developed. The island has a dock on either end, and between are three cabins. From left to right these are the west cabin, which has a workspace with a piano, the main cabin, which is your starting point, and the east cabin/sauna.

Characters

There are actually six characters in LVC2:

1. R (the guy you're playing as)
2. E (the blonde woman who torments us for half the game)
3. Not-R (dressed in older clothes and with a different mustache - his points up)
4. Not-E (looks the same as E, but only appears in scenes with Not-R - given that their clothes look much older, I'm guessing this is a different character)

Items

- The key that E throws into the lake (apparently not retrievable)
- 4 pieces of wood (scattered across the island, can be used to start the furnace, not sure if they have any other use)
- The axe (apparently stuck on top of a shelf in the west cabin until after vision #6)
- That damn rake (outside; I hate this thing so much)
- The bucket (in the sauna, no apparent use)
- The red soccer ball (appears just to the left of the main cabin once you've had the first vision)
- The baby face mask (appears east of the main cabin after vision #3 - doesn't appear to make any difference. Will become permanently stained with blood if you kill E while wearing it, although it'll only appear bloodstained when you're wearing it)
- The laser pistol (main cabin; from LVC5, appears after vision #4)
- An empty pill bottle (west cabin; same as laser pistol)
- E in a body bag (in the main cabin after killing E and having another vision; can't seem to do anything with it though)
- Lakeview Cabin Manuscript (after you kill E, repeat the final vision 4-5 more times, the blue book will appear in the west cabin - press I to open it. Thanks to LordFamalam for discovering this and SerafRogerMarq for telling me how to find this after I'd been sleep deprived for a couple of days)


Points of Interest

- The furnace (main cabin; can be lit with a block of wood, doesn't seem to do anything)
- E's book (on the bench outside the sauna - can't touch, probably not important... probably)
- The broken boat (outside of the west cabin; wood is scattered nearby, but there's no apparent way to fix it)
- The outhouse (west side of the island, no hilarious farting shenanigans in this one, apparently... unless you have sex)
- The sauna (which you can have a seat in, but seemingly can't fill with steam, unlike LVC1)
- The piano (west cabin; R can sit here and play a sad tune; I've left him going a while and nothing appears to change)
- Work bench (west cabin, the axe is on top of this but you can't seem to do anything else with it)
- What looks to be a gun case next to the work bench
- A box with the same symbol as the one from the attic in LVC5... reused assets or does it mean something?
- The water pump outside the sauna (broken)
- The sandcastle on the west end (falls apart after walking past it a few times)
- The tent (appears after vision #5, can't seem to do anything with it)

Visions

Get these by diving into the lake. They all begin with you sinking into a scene with E's singing motif going in the background. Note that they're more or less independent of whatever's going on with E at the time (you can go through most of the set without ever seeing her toss the key into the lake). For the most part, they seem to occur in a fixed order based on how many times you've jumped in the lake, and which dock you jump off of doesn't matter.

There are two ways of approaching these: interacting with them and not. If you interact with them, you get horror movie-style stingers; if you stay put, nothing happens and the vision will end without your input. The first time you trigger a stinger, a creepy theme plays when you walk outside the main cabin.

1. A black screen with a giant demon-eye opening and staring at you. Happens regardless of whether you walk around or not.
2. In the main cabin, E stands next to the bed. Walk toward her and she'll turn into a monster and leap at you.
3. Not-R and Not-E are having sex on a table in a room that looks a lot like it came out of the LVC4 mansion. (Haven't gone back through LVC4 to verify.) Looks pretty savage, but E doesn't seem to mind. If you walk toward them, bloody corpses like the hallucinations from LVC4 appear and surround you.
4. Not-R and Not-E are under a tree. Not-R looks ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and has a gun pointed at Not-E, who is bloody and seems to be begging for mercy. If you walk toward them, Not-R will shoot Not-E. The background looks like it came from LVC5 to me.
5. The cult from LVC5 appears. If you walk towards them, E will pull her hood back and suddenly start burning. E looks like she's wearing an eyepatch?
6. Date night. R & E are hanging out; R hands E a flower, and then E starts to cycle through various horrifying shapes while R's eyes turn white. Creepy...
7. E is eating R in the forest. If you walk towards her, she will turn and leap at you.
8. The giant demon eye is back, with R's bloody body and an axe underneath it. If you take the axe and hit the body with it, it turns into E's.

Note: At this point, without killing E, you'll repeatedly fall into the end of vision #7. You'll be falling pretty close to E's side this time, though, and even if you haven't triggered any of the stingers, you'll definitely trigger this one. Also, you can no longer trigger any of E's other scenes after this vision; she'll just stay in the cabin.

9. R and E, now old, are sitting on rocking chairs outside the main cabin. R looks unhappy, but E has the same blank expression as ever.


E's Stuff/Plot

E goes through a succession of activities if you follow her around. These have a funny relationship with the visions - you can go through almost all of them without ever laying eyes on her, but once you've hit the repeating vision, you can't progress without doing stuff with E.

1. On the east dock, E tosses a key into the lake, then goes to the bench by the sauna and starts reading.

At this point, E will show up inside the main cabin whenever you have your next vision... staring creepily at you while you're in bed. Not helping! Even if you've completed the rest of the visions before triggering the scene at the dock, E will still show up after you hit the repeating vision again.

2. Leave and re-enter. E will be on the bed. You can strip and trigger a sex scene at this point (with all the farts missing from the outhouse). The sex scene actually lasts for a while, so you might want to go make a sandwich or something.
Some interesting notes about the sex scene:
- This is the only time that E's face changes expression in the entire game, not counting when she turns into a ghost/ghoul/alien quene.
- When they're done, but before you get out of bed, R's expression changes to his possessed-eyes one.

3. Leave E passed out on the bed (you stud) and go trigger another vision. She'll grill a hot dog outside of the main cabin, then walk to the west dock and stay there.

4. At this point, the only thing you can do is kill E. She dies from the first hit, but as usual with LVC, you can keep swinging (you monster). This doesn't have any effect on the body bag.

5. After you kill E and trigger the final vision, the children show up, a boy and a girl. You can find them by following the sound of their giggling. The only way I've found to "complete" the chapter is to take the axe and attack one of the children, though mercifully it doesn't make you watch what happens next.

Miscellaneous

Stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else.

- Pausing doesn't work - though it seems like there isn't anything time-sensitive to do.
- Items seem to respawn if you toss them into a lake, then have a vision. Only certain items do this, though - I hopped into the lake with the axe in hand and was unable to complete the chapter.
- E appears to be pregnant during the real-world sequences, and does the "late pregnancy shuffle" when she walks. If you've ever been pregnant or been around a pregnant woman, you know what I'm talking about.
- No item appears to have any effect on E or the kids besides the axe. They don't even trigger the rake. Stupid rake...
- If you kill E and toss her body into the lake before triggering the final vision, there won't be a body bag.
- The entire island seems to be shifting back and forth as if you had drunk one beer. It does this from the start, though, and there's no alcohol on the island.
- Interestingly, the boy has R's brown hair but E's eyes, while the girl has E's blonde hair but R's eyes. None of the characters have red hair...
- Pressing the character change button cycles through R's facial expressions. Those are:

1. Really happy (the one he starts with)
2. Normal
3. Sad (playing the piano or trying to pump water will change his expression to this)
4. Angry (or really exerting himself, he changes to this during the sex scenes too)
5. White eyes (possessed-looking)

It won't let you take on the shocked expression that you get after each vision.

Anyway, that's everything so far. Knock yourselves out.

Though... a good mystery is its own reward. Isn't that right, Zack?

[Lupin]

I have no idea yet if completing LVC2 affects any of the rest of the game, but after 5, I'm not willing to put anything past Roope.

Here is what I'm thinking as far as this particular chapter goes:

1. R is either A) having visions of the past and future, or B) nuts. Or drunk - like I said, everything shifts around as if you're at a low level of drunkenness, but it never goes away and there's no alcohol on the island anyway. So maybe nuts. Or maybe both.

2. Not-R and Not-E (we really need better names for these characters) are possibly ancestors of theirs involved with the cult. Not-R lived, but Not-E may have either had children before dying or had family members, hence why we ended up with R and E looking like their respective ancestors. (Or possibly they're related... closely related. Gross.)

3. R gets freaked out, either by the visions or because he's nuts, and kills E and their children, who may have been the ones staying in the tent.

I'm not sure how this fits in with the greater story, but that's what I'm thinking so far.+

[Gunnar gele]

Hmm what if the hammer in ep3 it's like ep5 with the box ?. This is just a teori of mine.

Something intresting is that if you don't go to the dock where she throws the key and you keep proceding by walking left you don't see her throwing the key.

The kids don't seem to react to the body in the carpet/bag

Hmm What could be in the cabinet ? looks like a pice of wood. maybe the key she threqw into the sea is unlocking the cabinet ?

in the cabin is also a pillbox but not from the begining

when she threw the key if you wait and stand when shes reading the book the cracter will get mad. Also after they had sex.

[Root]

Originally posted by Gunnar gele:

Hmm what if the hammer in ep3 it's like ep5 with the box ?. This is just a teori of mine.

Something intresting is that if you don't go to the dock where she throws the key and you keep proceding by walking left you don't see her throwing the key.

The kids don't seem to react to the body in the carpet/bag

Hmm What could be in the cabinet ? looks like a pice of wood. maybe the key she threqw into the sea is unlocking the cabinet ?

in the cabin is also a pillbox but not from the begining

when she threw the key if you wait and stand when shes reading the book the cracter will get mad. Also after they had sex.

there's a shotgun in the cabinet

[MissCassidy]

Originally posted by Francis York Morgan:

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2. Not-R and Not-E (we really need better names for these characters) are possibly ancestors of theirs involved with the cult. Not-R lived, but Not-E may have either had children before dying or had family members, hence why we ended up with R and E looking like their respective ancestors. (Or possibly they're related... closely related. Gross.)

A news article in LVC 5 states that a killer was caught having sex with his sister. Maybe a reference or even a hint?

Originally posted by Francis York Morgan:

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3. R gets freaked out, either by the visions or because he's nuts, and kills E and their children, who may have been the ones staying in the tent.

We don't know if R really killed his children. It just fades black, Maybe he missed and one of the children managed to kill him?



Besides that, Roope said that all the chapters have been released.
That doesn't mean that he puts secrets in the other chapters. For example you can find the key from LVC 2 in LVC 3 near the west dock or more. Finding all those secrets may unlock the True Ending, maybe LVC 7?

[Natoriouspig]

Thanks for making this, it really helps. Also this is technically not LVC2 I don't think, because this takes place in the real world.

[Ride The Bowflex]

Wait, I don't think he's drunk, but he could be drugged. While there is no alcohol on the island, there is an empty pill bottle, so maybe he took the pills and that's why the island is rocking.

[Natoriouspig]

Originally posted by sus Buffalo Soldier:

Wait, I don't think he's drunk, but he could be drugged. While there is no alcohol on the island, there is an empty pill bottle, so maybe he took the pills and that's why the island is rocking.

Yeah, I updated my story with that info. You should check it out

[Natoriouspig]

Originally posted by Rick:

Originally posted by Francis York Morgan:

I
2. Not-R and Not-E (we really need better names for these characters) are possibly ancestors of theirs involved with the cult. Not-R lived, but Not-E may have either had children before dying or had family members, hence why we ended up with R and E looking like their respective ancestors. (Or possibly they're related... closely related. Gross.)

A news article in LVC 5 states that a killer was caught having sex with his sister. Maybe a reference or even a hint?

Originally posted by Francis York Morgan:

I
3. R gets freaked out, either by the visions or because he's nuts, and kills E and their children, who may have been the ones staying in the tent.

We don't know if R really killed his children. It just fades black, Maybe he missed and one of the children managed to kill him?



Besides that, Roope said that all the chapters have been released.
That doesn't mean that he puts secrets in the other chapters. For example you can find the key from LVC 2 in LVC 3 near the west dock or more. Finding all those secrets may unlock the True Ending, maybe LVC 7?

I'm pretty sure that R killed the kids. Also that is the end. You killed them all, and they made a movie about it. None of the movies plot matters.

[MissCassidy]

Originally posted by Natoriouspig:

Originally posted by Rick:

A news article in LVC 5 states that a killer was caught having sex with his sister. Maybe a reference or even a hint?



We don't know if R really killed his children. It just fades black, Maybe he missed and one of the children managed to kill him?



Besides that, Roope said that all the chapters have been released.
That doesn't mean that he puts secrets in the other chapters. For example you can find the key from LVC 2 in LVC 3 near the west dock or more. Finding all those secrets may unlock the True Ending, maybe LVC 7?

I'm pretty sure that R killed the kids. Also that is the end. You killed them all, and they made a movie about it. None of the movies plot matters.

That would be cheap. If you think that way, why didn't you just delete most of your story since "none of the movies plot matters"

[Natoriouspig]

Originally posted by Rick:

Originally posted by Natoriouspig:

I'm pretty sure that R killed the kids. Also that is the end. You killed them all, and they made a movie about it. None of the movies plot matters.

That would be cheap. If you think that way, why didn't you just delete most of your story since "none of the movies plot matters"

They don't matter in the grand scheme of things. They are just movies based on the real event of the epilogue. They are fun to watch, but again, they are just adaptions of real events.

[FerretBandit]

I can see you put a lot of work into this. Good job

[Gunnar gele]

Hmm i wonder why you still see r and e when they are old if you killed e

[Electricwestern]

Originally posted by Gunnar gele:

Hmm i wonder why you still see r and e when they are old if you killed e

All the visions before you kill E are horrifying, they slowly drive R to fear and despise E. It's only after he murders her that the lake shows him what could have bee, but now it's too late.

[Lupin]

Originally posted by Electricwestern:

Originally posted by Gunnar gele:

Hmm i wonder why you still see r and e when they are old if you killed e

All the visions before you kill E are horrifying, they slowly drive R to fear and despise E. It's only after he murders her that the lake shows him what could have bee, but now it's too late.

That's my theory, too. We already know that the lake brings the dead back as zombies (at least in the movies), and it has other effects as well. Even though the movies are only loosely based on what happens in the epilogue, there probably was a real-world legend surrounding the lake's effects, which is why we have the zombie stuff in III and the analysis they were doing in VI - they're referencing that legend. Assuming I'm right, anyway. So it's entirely possible that the legend was real and the lake itself was screwing with R's head to drive him to commit evil acts.

That might also explain the subtle shifting around of the screen, though I'm with Buffalo Soldier in that the pills might be related too. Maybe he was trying to sleep without dreams and it backfired.

I just want to know if there's anything else to do in this chapter, or if it's a big troll by Roope. I wouldn't even be mad if it were, though, haha

[Natoriouspig]

Originally posted by Francis York Morgan:

Originally posted by Electricwestern:

All the visions before you kill E are horrifying, they slowly drive R to fear and despise E. It's only after he murders her that the lake shows him what could have bee, but now it's too late.

That's my theory, too. We already know that the lake brings the dead back as zombies (at least in the movies), and it has other effects as well. Even though the movies are only loosely based on what happens in the epilogue, there probably was a real-world legend surrounding the lake's effects, which is why we have the zombie stuff in III and the analysis they were doing in VI - they're referencing that legend. Assuming I'm right, anyway. So it's entirely possible that the legend was real and the lake itself was screwing with R's head to drive him to commit evil acts.

That might also explain the subtle shifting around of the screen, though I'm with Buffalo Soldier in that the pills might be related too. Maybe he was trying to sleep without dreams and it backfired.

I just want to know if there's anything else to do in this chapter, or if it's a big troll by Roope. I wouldn't even be mad if it were, though, haha

I think that's it. I wish we could get the key though, so I could at least have fun shooting my family