STAR WARS™ X-Wing vs TIE Fighter: Balance of Power Campaigns™

STAR WARS™ X-Wing vs TIE Fighter: Balance of Power Campaigns™

Misc2008 2 Thg05, 2015 @ 5:46pm
Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Joystick work ok?
Anyone used a Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Joystick with the game? I'm looking at buying a joystick and don't want to buy one that does not work.
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avatar.zero 2 Thg05, 2015 @ 7:51pm 
You'll need to do a little research on whether the T-Flight HOTAS X registers itself with Windows as two controllers or just one (some Hotas units, such as the X-55, report as 2). If it's just one, then you'll be able to use the stick, throttle, main hat, and up to 12 buttons. If it reports as two, then you'll likely lose the throttle and some of the buttons (XvT will only recognize a single controller, whichever one is set as the primary default).

In any event, you won't have twist/rocker control as XvT only recognizes the primary X axis for yaw (you can switch it to roll by holding down a button), primary Y axis for pitch, and throttles.
Lần sửa cuối bởi avatar.zero; 2 Thg05, 2015 @ 8:20pm
Tye 2 Thg05, 2015 @ 10:03pm 
I have the exact same stick and it works just fine,though as avatar.zero just mentioned above there is no rudder controls at all. Other then that though the throttle and all other buttons work so you should be good to go! Just make sure the first thing you do is config the controls cause quite a few that are defulted ones are pretty pointless.
Broke 3 Thg05, 2015 @ 5:51am 
I play this with a vintage Sidewinder Pro. A Thrustmaster is not appropriate for this game.
zteknon 5 Thg05, 2015 @ 5:51pm 
Thrustmaster was very highly rated on amazon so I bought it. Turns out its crap for this game. At least for me. It just doesnt have the feedback necessary. And theres way too much play in the joystick before it responds even on the highest sensitivity settings. Havent bought another joystick to test yet but dont go with Flightmaster.
Lần sửa cuối bởi zteknon; 6 Thg05, 2015 @ 11:22am
Pendulum 6 Thg05, 2015 @ 2:18am 
I' m using the T-Flight Hotas X and works great for me, both the hotas and the stick. I' ve mapped all the buttons throught the game settings and 0 issues. I' m running the game on win 7 64 bit.
DDDespair 6 Thg05, 2015 @ 2:08pm 
Any other suggestions? I believe I have my old joystick lying around from when I played this game on disc, but I'm not sure it will plug in to my computer.
Pendulum 6 Thg05, 2015 @ 3:05pm 
Nguyên văn bởi DDDespair:
Any other suggestions? I believe I have my old joystick lying around from when I played this game on disc, but I'm not sure it will plug in to my computer.

Use your old stick if u got one, but I strongly recommend you to use one with POV because in the original version released 20 years ago u cant use a joystick with more than 3 or 4 buttons (i' m not sure exactly but i remember that u can t remap the buttons) and u have to use the keyboard every time and it s more difficult to play, specially in dogfights when u have to make adjustments very fast. This version is the same, with the only (and i think very useful) option to map a "modern" joystick with all it' s buttons. I've mapped the POV with the 4 actions that i use when i cant move my sight on the keyboard and i want to focus only with the fight. I think i was a good player almost 20 years ago with my old 3 buttons stick, but now i' m better (subjective) with the addition of the POV. I' m using: POV up; transfer partial energy from lasers to shields, POV down; Transfer partial energy from shields to lasers, POV right; transfer all energy from lasers to shields, POV left; target nearest enemy targeting you.

Sorry for my english, the idea is: if u can go for an actual stick with more than 3 or 4 buttons, go for it. With POV if it s possible.
avatar.zero 6 Thg05, 2015 @ 4:25pm 
Nguyên văn bởi FCB1899:
Use your old stick if u got one, but I strongly recommend you to use one with POV because in the original version released 20 years ago u cant use a joystick with more than 3 or 4 buttons (i' m not sure exactly but i remember that u can t remap the buttons) and u have to use the keyboard every time and it s more difficult to play, specially in dogfights when u have to make adjustments very fast. This version is the same, with the only (and i think very useful) option to map a "modern" joystick with all it' s buttons. I've mapped the POV with the 4 actions that i use when i cant move my sight on the keyboard and i want to focus only with the fight. I think i was a good player almost 20 years ago with my old 3 buttons stick, but now i' m better (subjective) with the addition of the POV. I' m using: POV up; transfer partial energy from lasers to shields, POV down; Transfer partial energy from shields to lasers, POV right; transfer all energy from lasers to shields, POV left; target nearest enemy targeting you.

The original version, released 18 years ago (1997) - supports up to 20 buttons plus 4-way hat and you CAN remap the buttons.

Maybe you need this thread to refresh yourself on?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/361690/discussions/0/620712364035531853/
Lần sửa cuối bởi avatar.zero; 6 Thg05, 2015 @ 4:26pm
DDDespair 6 Thg05, 2015 @ 6:58pm 
Nguyên văn bởi FCB1899:
Nguyên văn bởi DDDespair:
Any other suggestions? I believe I have my old joystick lying around from when I played this game on disc, but I'm not sure it will plug in to my computer.

Use your old stick if u got one, but I strongly recommend you to use one with POV because in the original version released 20 years ago u cant use a joystick with more than 3 or 4 buttons (i' m not sure exactly but i remember that u can t remap the buttons) and u have to use the keyboard every time and it s more difficult to play, specially in dogfights when u have to make adjustments very fast.

My old stick was a PC Raider Joystick SV-206, and no pc I have now has the type of plugin in it requires. It was incredibly basic, with just 2 triggers, so if there's something just as simple that plugs in with usb then that's what I'm after. This is the only game I'd need it for and I'm fine with using the keyboard for buttons.

zteknon 6 Thg05, 2015 @ 7:02pm 
They do make 9 pin to USB adapters.
Greyshadow 7 Thg05, 2015 @ 2:20am 
I use a logitech extreme 3D pro - working a treat and it was excellent value.
Pendulum 7 Thg05, 2015 @ 6:28am 

The original version, released 18 years ago (1997) - supports up to 20 buttons plus 4-way hat and you CAN remap the buttons.

Maybe you need this thread to refresh yourself on?

http://steamcommunity.com/app/361690/discussions/0/620712364035531853/ [/quote]


I was wrong, maybe i was confused with X wing and Tie Fighter, both had only some joystick support. But i don't remember exacly if those ones can be played with a stick with more than 3 or 4 buttons and 4 way hat. Not my intention to create a misunderstanding. Sorry.
avatar.zero 7 Thg05, 2015 @ 5:21pm 
Nguyên văn bởi FCB1899:
I was wrong, maybe i was confused with X wing and Tie Fighter, both had only some joystick support. But i don't remember exacly if those ones can be played with a stick with more than 3 or 4 buttons and 4 way hat. Not my intention to create a misunderstanding. Sorry.

No need to be sorry, confusion has just been creating some unintended misinformation that can get a little annoying sometimes. A no-fault problem, really. And yes, the original X-wing and TIE Fighter games were limited to 4 buttons (as far as I can remember), as that was the most that could be recognized over an analog gameport connection.
Pendulum 8 Thg05, 2015 @ 8:14pm 
Nguyên văn bởi avatar.zero:
Nguyên văn bởi FCB1899:
I was wrong, maybe i was confused with X wing and Tie Fighter, both had only some joystick support. But i don't remember exacly if those ones can be played with a stick with more than 3 or 4 buttons and 4 way hat. Not my intention to create a misunderstanding. Sorry.

No need to be sorry, confusion has just been creating some unintended misinformation that can get a little annoying sometimes. A no-fault problem, really. And yes, the original X-wing and TIE Fighter games were limited to 4 buttons (as far as I can remember), as that was the most that could be recognized over an analog gameport connection.


Yes, you said it: analog. Beautiful word. Every day passes I hate more modern games. I got the original CDs, both XW vs TF (2 discs, 1 single player, 1 multiplayer) and Balance of Power (1 disc), saw the game on steam 1 week ago, confirmed that is running on modern windows, purchased it immediately.Tried to apply 3D hardware acceleration but failed. Read that there's a patch that 3D hardware works but only with the GOG version. Purchased the GOG version yesterday, applied the patch but still doesn't working. But, hey, I will continue playing this masterpiece even that I can' t enable the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 3D hardware acceleration. Just playing the game how it looks, a 18 years old game. But an awesome one (these days I confirmed that was a very advanced game for it's era).

PS: sorry if there's any write error, my english is not as good as I would.
Shibe One 2 Thg12, 2015 @ 4:14am 
I have the HOTAS X too but nothing is working in-game for me. I've got the drivers installed and everything. But none of the controls are working in-game for me. I'll consider myself lucky if I get a reply since this is an old thread.
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