Anyone got chip city figured out?

[jamie.santavy]

Just wondering if anyone has figured out a solid way to compete in chip city. I haven't played in a long time and I'm having a bit of difficulty dealing with the second objective of bankurpting billy slammers or whatever.

My last play through they didn't retaliate after using up my 2 hit men and when they finally did from my trouble makers starting fights I didn't have the money to sustain myself because I just opened up a new casino on the better side of the railroad tracks (which was performing horribly 2 days in still)

I was a little over ambitious with my early spending, ended up with craps, blackjack and baccarat, jackpot slots, a small stage, a wedding chapel, a medium drinks bar, and a few food places to start. Most of the rest of my money went to buying up all the advertisements at the beginning. This was enough to give me about 10k profit daily but to bankrupt the bar in the second task you need a combination of hitmen, hookers, and / or a lot of trouble makers. All of those things require one thing in common, a successful casino. More foot traffic means more trouble makers for hire, getting new hitmen means getting attacked by hitmen and paying a 10k fee to the cops, and sending hookers is 4k a pop.

I had invested in 3 shuttle routes which more or less encompassed the whole city and one limo. I only ever managed to get about 8-10% of the gambling market share at my casino and after adding a poker table as well and I was never at full capacity for gamblers.

Anyone got any tips for making more money in that town?

[LAURELINAD]

At start 2 large stages, 1 at left top (only dancers), 1 at right top (only adult), set ticket prices to 200$ at both stages. Craps at the entrance, roulette and baccarat at left and right. (minimum bet 50$ each) rest of the money for advertising. I start like this making a lot of money. But this casino is only temporary. You gotta open your main casino at Pleasant st. They sell one for 20.000 after awhile you start the game. So keep your eyes out on real estate messages. Don't bother transportation. High spending costumers don't use shuttles already. You only need these in your casinos; (high rollers, socialites, delegates) The rest are nothing but making trouble.

Gambling objective is a bit tricky, you gotta close gambling right after you finish the first objective to not let it ask you high % on gambling later. (if you have %5 already it asks you %25 instead %20 for instance) After you open your casino at pleasant st. you can put a lot of gambling table in your casinos and buy almost all advertising. You can easily achieve gambling objective. (minimum bets must be 5$ for this objective the task is based on the number of people playing instead of $ you earn) You can turn your first casino to hotel after you complete this objective and focus only the main one at pleasant st. (if you can't manage to achieve this objective, open more casinos and put gambling tables again till you achieve, then you can turn them to hotel)

To bankrupting slammar, send your hitmans 1 by 1 setting bomb each time. -20k$ from that. after that send your hitmans again 1 by 1 make them wait at the entrance shoot a random worker close to the entrance and run back home immediately, he'll runaway to your casino and if lucky no police outside you can finish him repeating this way each time -10k$ another way sending your all trouble makers at once, attacking bouncers, guards etc. sometimes guards shoot your troublemakers and that makes chaos shooting between policeman and guards... Another thing, when you hear "your opponent holding a grudge against you" check the guy coming up from slammar's basement you can attack him with your troublemaker make him shoot you, then police will kill him before he reaches your casino. If no hitman or troublemakers left, you can send hookers as your last option.

These are the tips that come to my mind right now, hope will be helpful.

[jamie.santavy]

Seems like pretty good advice all around, I'll give it a try later, thanks for the tips

[jamie.santavy]

So I followed your advice and it worked great. I noticed after a while people stop coming to the large stages at a $200 ticket price but I can consistently pack them full at about $80 each. I was able to open a new casino at a much better location and built up a pretty solid nest egg as I put sammy slammer out of business. I've been having a bit of trouble completing the daily takings objective after it though since I had already taken over the majority of gambling in the city. It's looking like the only way I'll complete it is if I manage to use my cheats to build up about $60k. Thanks for the help

[LAURELINAD]

You are welcome, i'm glad that was helpful. Another thing, those cheats are great way to make some money also to complete daily takings objectives as you mentioned. But of course they must be high rollers or socialites, the others are useless, stars doesn't matter. I usually select all my 5 cheats, cheating on a table, when a floorman comes i remove them from table then i send them back after he gone, so they can't catch me that way. Another trick, keeping a troublemaker or a hitman in the enemy's basement, if somehow they catch and send my cheat to disipline, i attack on the bouncer and save my cheat :)

[Smokes]

Hey you two,

This got nothing to do with this particular discussion but since you guys seem to have put some hours into this game and you cant directly message people on steam without befriending them I figured I'd ask you two here and see if you can help me. Got three questions:

1. Sometimes my customers leave my casino (completely happy) to go gambling at the competition, even though I have every gambling facility they could want to use in my building. Why?

2. Why is my staff cheating and when I discipline them then denying it? Its not because they are low level or because I am not paying them enough (I have eliminated those factors). Or are my 5 Star Floormen constantly making an error when spotting the cheating, like they sometimes do with customers? I doubt it. Any idea?

3. Is there a way to increase the total number of Highrollers and Socialites on the map? I thought maybe by building a lot of 5 and 4 Stars hotel but I haven't noticed a noticeable increase after I did that. Any idea?

Thanks in advance!

[jamie.santavy]

@BAAM sorry I never saw your post here. I really rarely check the forums on steam if you can't tell. If you do see this though prepare to be disappointed because I really don't have any good answers for you though.

1) I think people just leave sometimes, I've never really thought about it. If you can check a few of these customers on their way out maybe they're unhappy for some reason. If they are unhappy then some more hosts might do the trick. If not, maybe all your gaming tables are full, or maybe they just felt like a change of scenery.


2) I really have no idea. I realized early on that when I disciplined staff that they always denied it and it upset all my staff members so I just stopped doing it. If you didn't already know though from my experience there is a correlation between how often a dealer wins and their skill though. I always try and have my best dealers on blackjack / roulette / poker. I noticed at the baccarat table recently the highest rated dealer tends to always take the same position at the table, so for baccarat and craps I think there might be 1 "main dealer" and its no big deal to hire level 1 dealers for the other spots.

3) As far as I know there's no way to affect the amount of potential customers on the map, or their social status. I don't remember which city or objective it is specifically, but there's one objective that requires you to increase the number of high rollers to your casino and if you already have a ton of them coming to your casino its pretty tough.

[daMuzza]

For (2), floormen can make mistakes when identifying cheaters. Higher skilled floormen make fewer mistakes. The more full a gaming table is, the more likely they are to make a mistake when identifing cheaters.

[daMuzza]

For (1). Casinos with more attractions that fulfill their current urge and are within their price range will be more attractive. Advertising also makes a difference. Plus there is a degree of random chance.

[Thelionpaladin]

Originally posted by LAURELINAD:

At start 2 large stages, 1 at left top (only dancers), 1 at right top (only adult), set ticket prices to 200$ at both stages. Craps at the entrance, roulette and baccarat at left and right. (minimum bet 50$ each) rest of the money for advertising. I start like this making a lot of money. But this casino is only temporary. You gotta open your main casino at Pleasant st. They sell one for 20.000 after awhile you start the game. So keep your eyes out on real estate messages. Don't bother transportation. High spending costumers don't use shuttles already. You only need these in your casinos; (high rollers, socialites, delegates) The rest are nothing but making trouble.

Gambling objective is a bit tricky, you gotta close gambling right after you finish the first objective to not let it ask you high % on gambling later. (if you have %5 already it asks you %25 instead %20 for instance) After you open your casino at pleasant st. you can put a lot of gambling table in your casinos and buy almost all advertising. You can easily achieve gambling objective. (minimum bets must be 5$ for this objective the task is based on the number of people playing instead of $ you earn) You can turn your first casino to hotel after you complete this objective and focus only the main one at pleasant st. (if you can't manage to achieve this objective, open more casinos and put gambling tables again till you achieve, then you can turn them to hotel)

To bankrupting slammar, send your hitmans 1 by 1 setting bomb each time. -20k$ from that. after that send your hitmans again 1 by 1 make them wait at the entrance shoot a random worker close to the entrance and run back home immediately, he'll runaway to your casino and if lucky no police outside you can finish him repeating this way each time -10k$ another way sending your all trouble makers at once, attacking bouncers, guards etc. sometimes guards shoot your troublemakers and that makes chaos shooting between policeman and guards... Another thing, when you hear "your opponent holding a grudge against you" check the guy coming up from slammar's basement you can attack him with your troublemaker make him shoot you, then police will kill him before he reaches your casino. If no hitman or troublemakers left, you can send hookers as your last option.

These are the tips that come to my mind right now, hope will be helpful.

This is great advice the main issue is the game and the mission just gets so boring after a while cause the other casinos have so much collatereal it takes literal hours to put them out of business

[LAURELINAD]

Yes it's annoying but it's better not to focus on putting them out of business because, new casinos will show up again and again so if it's not for objective, putting them out of business is meaningless.

Best way to put a casino out is sending 5 high roller cheats, if you know how to use them and avoid of getting caught, you can bankrupt them super fast.

[Thelionpaladin]

Originally posted by LAURELINAD:

Yes it's annoying but it's better not to focus on putting them out of business because, new casinos will show up again and again so if it's not for objective, putting them out of business is meaningless.

Best way to put a casino out is sending 5 high roller cheats, if you know how to use them and avoid of getting caught, you can bankrupt them super fast.

Yeah I think this is a flaw in the game how this happens-I say this in particular because eventually the only way to achieve some of the gambling stats in the mission is to shut down the competitots-Which either requires making them go bust or blowing all your money on prositutes to shut down all their casinos at once-Or using hitmen which likely means revenge attacks that then ♥♥♥♥ your own gambling

[jamie.santavy]

well returning to this threat almost 3 years later I agree that there are plenty flaws within this game, but most old charming games I love do. The biggest flaw in this game is that it's objectives don't at all factor in to how your casino is already performing. Like there's an objective in the first mission that wants to to raise your market share in gambling by 20%. If you already have a high market share in gambling it seems almost impossible to achieve.

As I mentioned in another post there's an objective in another mission to increase your high roller customers by 20, another one that could be literally impossible if you already have a big high roller count. The day's takings goals are also a static amount on top of your previous day's takings so those can be killer as well if you were already a big casino.

As far as missions to bankrupt people the worst one by far is the guy who owns the bars and doesn't have table games. Aside from sending hitmen (get the most out of your hitmen by having them plant the bomb in slow motion and then immediately calling them home, level 1 hitmen always blow themselves up by accident though. But the others you can send back a second time to shoot up the place) the only thing you can really do is have troublemakers spike drinks to try and keep people from spending their money. As much as its a pain to deal with retaliation hitmen its also necessary to increase your own number of hitmen unfortunately

As was mentioned above though the hardest part about taking out big casinos for objectives the hardest part is getting high roller cheats to work for you. Sometimes casinos won't have a floorman on every gaming floor, your cheat literally cant get caught. Or you can micro your cheats around the tables and make them stop playing as soon as the floorman comes over to the table.

IF you make sure you have a troublemaker nearby as well even if your cheat does get caught you can have the troublemaker attack the bouncer and buy your cheat time to get out of the casino which can save the money they won and an invaluable high roller cheat.

like laurelinad said though, if you dont have an objective to bankrupt a casino there's no point because another one will just open in its place.

[Mr. Bear]

I've been following the tips mentioned here and seen many great results, as such, i'd like to add my own as well:

-Guests almost always will want drinks after a show (using the suggested stage shows, mentioned earlier) and as a general rule i avoid using alcohol due to it producing too many drunks, even without enemy troublemakers, use coffee and soda kiosks whenever you can, it'll be tough at first, but it is the safer route to satisfy guests thirst. It is not advised to use machines at first since guest will break them constantly. Machines are things reserved for when you completed all objectives (the AI seems to calm down after this as they won't break nearly as many anymore.)

Despite what the game implies, even a high roller will take a sip of high quality coffee or soda if he's desperate enough.

-A hotel can house the following guests:
* = Trailer Trash, Teens (The peasant floor)
** = Seniors (The undead peasant floor)
*** = Delegates, Vacationers (The middle class floor)
**** = Socialites (The high class floor)
***** = All High Roller types (The ACTUAL high class floor)

You might wanna take this into account when setting up a hotel nearby your casino. As a general rule, after some time and some cash, i forbid entrance to trash, teens and seniors as they will: cause you a lot of trouble, spend very little money but hang around way too long and occupy valuable space.

You might also want to consider having several 3 star floors, as they will get easily filled out due to the abundance of visitor types that inhabit this category.

-If you suspect someone's cheating, but you don't wanna risk the penalty for beating an innocent person up, you can instead eject them from the casino, if they are cheats-for-hire, it'll pop up the same prompt to hire them.

-If someone it's causing a disturbance, they are 100% troublemakers, if two people are fighting the first name on the prompt is always the person that initiated the fight and it usually means it's a troublemaker (not always).

-Sending hookers might seem like an ok way to safely cause issues on your opponent, but there are some caveats to this:
1.- When you hire a hooker, what happens is that it'll literally spawn from it's establishment and go on foot to their destination, keep in this mind if your map has two or more of these places.
2.- DO NOT send hookers to casinos with empty floors, much like employees, hookers will stick to a floor that they choose randomly and if that floor happens to be empty, the hooker will just turn around and leave. This is the most common cause as to why suddenly hookers just vanish from where you send them.
3.- Usually 6-7 are enough to trigger a raid, but they have to all be there and also some time has to pass as raids are not instant.
4.- You only do this option if you are not concerned about money as you will ALWAYS lose more money than your competition by doing this. (10k fine VS 25k-30k+ from hiring)

[simonmarius]

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