"Timeline of Evoland 2", Ending Explained

[Heroic_Moron]

We all know by the end of Evoland 2 that the whole game is a Time Loop. But I think I finally have a grasp of how each event connects together. But it doesn't paint a very pretty picture for our heroes.... Note that this is my personal theory.

To explain this, I'll write down the events as I believe they took place:

- G is selected to be the one who mantains the cycle by the Magi.

- G tracks down the signal of the "defective model" (The Project, damaged after Kuro and Ceres' fight) and travels to the past (Well, the Future for him since he came from the Magi era) where he encounters Fina, who had been trapped there experimenting in the lab to trying to return them to their own time. Mistaking G for the "Kuro" she knew, she's happy to see him.

- The two eventually become a couple and have a kid, Sid. G becomes known as the Inventor, Professor Giro.

- Learning that Menos and Velvet's Dauther is "Subject X", Ceres, who damages the project. Giro seeks out Velvet and Menos to stop Ceres to mantaine the cycle of time. (Fina may have helped, not knowing about the Time Loops and possibly believing Ceres would kill Kuro.) Velvet and Menos are forced to fight to protect their child. The two are killed in the fight, but with Ceres' power and possibly being pissed at her parents being murdered, Giro is unable to destory her there. And flees, but knowing she would eventually seek him out, he preps his lab for her arrival.

- Ceres arrives to get reveage for her parents, but is captured by Giro's security. Her powers are drained and put into the "Weapon". Possibly by Fina's convining him, Giro decides to interogate Ceres. She instead, however, sees this as her chance to escape. She sends Giro through time and flees the lab. Giro is then sent to Spelbuk Forest where he loses his memories, and eventually becomes Kuro.

(Here's where the game starts, but as for what happens after Giro's gone, it gets kinda fuzzy cause of the years of each era)

- Meanwhile, Fina raises their child Sid, until he becomes an adult and sets out to outdo his father. (They may have also used the cryosleep chambers, or at least Fina did. I'm not sure, which is why I said it gets fuzzy here) It's possible during this time, Fina was pregnet with another baby, a girl, or remarried later.

- Fina eventually dies telling her dauther to give that star to Kuro one day, years past. Fina's Daughter is now an old lady living in what's left of her home village. She finally meets Kuro and gives him the star.


Bonus:

- The Prophet and his disciples possibly go on to become the early Magi. Thus also, explains the origin of the eye symbol the Magi use.

(Now for Kuro's ending)

- Kuro is trapped within the anomaly (or more likely, chose not to leave thinking his friends were "erased"), and eventually grows old and mostly likely depressed at the realization that his whole life, his whole adventure, had been a meaningless time loop. He eventually leaves and moves into the Windy Valley, where he eventually meets himself. (He may also be responcible for how your flying machine ends up in the anomaly, possibly as an effort to sabotage himself and change history.)


Like I said, not a very happy end for our heroes. However, their might be hope for their world at least. Cause 1 question still remains, where did the Magi go? I believe I might know.

If you go to the Volcano Island in the Magi Era, you'll eventually come across the group running a "Counter Project". Though nothing else on this "Counter Project" is ever brought up. So here's what I think happened:

- After launching "The Project" into the anomaly, "Tiny Tiki" eventually grows big enough to swallow it, then falls asleep decades.

- The Magi, with the copy of Velvet's book, unlock it's power and freeze the island by accident, lowering the water level of the ocean and creating the frozen continent.

And finally, most importantly....

- The unknown "Counter Project" Succeeds, and the result sent the Magi outside the timeloop to a place where time flows normally.


This about covers my theory of the ending of Evoland 2.

[Slick]

It is hinted that the magi got killed by wikings, for heresy against the great turtle.

[Heroic_Moron]

Originally posted by Slick:

It is hinted that the magi got killed by wikings, for heresy against the great turtle.

That doesn't refer to the Magi, One of the Wikings in the village refer to them as gods, saying they made the frozen continent and the great turtle to guide them. (Just double checked this)

Plus, the Magi lived all over the world in their time. Based on the Wikings beliefs, I'd say they didn't come along until after the frozen continent formed, and as seen by their unfinished tunnel, they never had the chance to ever leave the frozen continent. There's no way they could have killed the Magi.

[LupisLight]

Mmm, a few things:

• What about the man and woman Giro's logs indicate he 'disposed of' when he arrived at the lab?
  
  
• At the beginning of the game, right after G's training, after the screen fades out, an explosion can be heard. Possibly the project exploding, which may be what caused the disappearance of the Magi?
  
  
• I hadn't considered the idea of 'the defective model' mentioned in Giro's logs, being the project or other object instead of a person. It IS rather ambiguous.
  
  
• I've been through the game several times, and I don't remember any 'counter project'. I'm on a playthrough right now, so when I get to the Magi era I'll keep an eye out for it.

[Heroic_Moron]

Originally posted by LupisLight:

Mmm, a few things:

• What about the man and woman Giro's logs indicate he 'disposed of' when he arrived at the lab?
  
  
• At the beginning of the game, right after G's training, after the screen fades out, an explosion can be heard. Possibly the project exploding, which may be what caused the disappearance of the Magi?
  
  
• I hadn't considered the idea of 'the defective model' mentioned in Giro's logs, being the project or other object instead of a person. It IS rather ambiguous.
  
  
• I've been through the game several times, and I don't remember any 'counter project'. I'm on a playthrough right now, so when I get to the Magi era I'll keep an eye out for it.

1. I believe this refers to Menos and Velvet. He never said he "disposed of them" the second he got to the lab.

2. I think that explosion is actually from where Ceres pushes Giro through time. It can't be the project, as when we go to the Magi era, it's still being built.

3. It seems like the most likely possibility, given Ceres states her fight with Kuro managed to damage it and the ends credits scene shows "G" arriving sometime after.

4. The group behind the "Counter Project" is found on the Island with the Volcano. You need to use the Flying Machine to reach it in the Magi Era.

[Another Nimous]

I object)
All Giro's words:

Originally posted by February 15, 947.:

I have just arrived in this time period.
I tracked the signal of the defective model that led me here.
I managed to do away with them -- him and the woman.
I will stay here and wait for Subject X to appear.
End recording.

Originally posted by December 2, 948.:

My predecessor made great headway.
He must have lived here for a long time.
In preparation for Subject X's arrival, I have begun to implement an automated security system.
End recording.

Originally posted by July 14, 949.:

As expected, Subject X has appeared.
Only a young girl at this point, but her power is already phenomenal.
I managed to capture her, but I've been unable to destroy her.
I have started the energy extraction process, which should weaken her.
End recording.

Originally posted by July 16, 949.:

Subject X is resisting more effectively than expected.
Her power has visibly diminished, and the energy thus removed is now stored within the Weapon.
I will loosen my grasp on her in order to question her.
End recording.

The "defective model" Giro refers to is indeed a person. Because Giro refers to "defective model" as "him". Also, "the woman" who is companion of "him", likewise dealt with.
He likely also is one referred by Giro as his predecessor.

[Heroic_Moron]

Originally posted by Totally NAH:

I object)
All Giro's words:

Originally posted by February 15, 947.:

I have just arrived in this time period.
I tracked the signal of the defective model that led me here.
I managed to do away with them -- him and the woman.
I will stay here and wait for Subject X to appear.
End recording.

Originally posted by December 2, 948.:

My predecessor made great headway.
He must have lived here for a long time.
In preparation for Subject X's arrival, I have begun to implement an automated security system.
End recording.

Originally posted by July 14, 949.:

As expected, Subject X has appeared.
Only a young girl at this point, but her power is already phenomenal.
I managed to capture her, but I've been unable to destroy her.
I have started the energy extraction process, which should weaken her.
End recording.

Originally posted by July 16, 949.:

Subject X is resisting more effectively than expected.
Her power has visibly diminished, and the energy thus removed is now stored within the Weapon.
I will loosen my grasp on her in order to question her.
End recording.

The "defective model" Giro refers to is indeed a person. Because Giro refers to "defective model" as "him". Also, "the woman" who is companion of "him", likewise dealt with.
He likely also is one referred by Giro as his predecessor.

I believe you misunderstood his words. What would make a person qualify as being a "defective model"? Given the context of the game, I see no reason why anyone would fit such a title. It make more sense for the "defective model" to refer to the project, as Ceres states that it's too damaged to continue the loop. It also seems more likely that the Magi would be able to track something of their own creation.

[Another Nimous]

Originally posted by Heroic_Moron:

I believe you misunderstood his words. What would make a person qualify as being a "defective model"? Given the context of the game, I see no reason why anyone would fit such a title. It make more sense for the "defective model" to refer to the project, as Ceres states that it's too damaged to continue the loop. It also seems more likely that the Magi would be able to track something of their own creation.

I disagree. Quoting Ceres,

The Project has been damaged by our fight...
Will it be enough to stop the cycle of time?
If not, everything will start over...
The same times.
The same events.
The same struggles.
The same fate for all.
For both of us too..

So either it is damaged enough and The End of Time ensues, or it isn't and everything goes on as it did before. Given we see things after, it's likely the latter.

Also, Giro could not access the Project - he doesn't have the Stone of Time and there is no Anomaly at that moment.

Another point for "defective model" being a person is a question: who do you think built the lab? It is definitely the "predecessor" Giro refers to. It is definitely neither Fina nor Menos nor Velvet. It is likely "model".

To answer these questions, I also have a theory. Two, in fact.
First theory is that Kuro did exit the Anomaly with Fina at some point of time. Sure, this somewhat contradicts the final, but is plausible. Then they got somewhere in 930 and started building the lab. Then at 947 Giro appears, kills Kuro (his future self), kills Fina, claims the lab and fancy outfit.
Second theory is that Giro is not unique - quite the opposite. Giro is a clone. One that has some genes making him able to manipulate|resist time. And these clones were ensuring the cycle around the timeline. Thus Giro killed a defective clone.

About being "defective" - do note that Giro/clones definitely have something wired in their brain, like clones from Star Wars - this is hinted at in the very beginning.

[Another Nimous]

Also, it looks like "The end ??" sticky discussion actually has better theories than mine, so I'm out of luck)

[Dimalungma]

I would like to add that the rotation of time periods is cycled too. We assume that Magi Era is past only because of the graphics, but technologically it's the future.
And they mention the Dark Times, when there was less water and more continents, before the meltdown of some big ice island. Also, the Dark Times writings mention some "great destruction" as the Magi translated it, and the prophet who was talking about it... rings a bell?

[Dimalungma]

Originally posted by Heroic_Moron:

Originally posted by Totally NAH:

I object)
All Giro's words:






The "defective model" Giro refers to is indeed a person. Because Giro refers to "defective model" as "him". Also, "the woman" who is companion of "him", likewise dealt with.
He likely also is one referred by Giro as his predecessor.

I believe you misunderstood his words. What would make a person qualify as being a "defective model"? Given the context of the game, I see no reason why anyone would fit such a title. It make more sense for the "defective model" to refer to the project, as Ceres states that it's too damaged to continue the loop. It also seems more likely that the Magi would be able to track something of their own creation.

The "defective model" could possibly be Kuro, since he lost his memories and no longer helps the Project, and then the woman will be Fina. While playing i was assuming that the events may alter between loops, for example Fina and Kuro may arrived at lab before they gathered power and friends, and die there, beginning the current loop where Giro managed to do everything he wanted, before being transported

[Chris]

The defective model imho is menos, as the demons were created by magi

[Heroic_Moron]

Originally posted by Chris:

The defective model imho is menos, as the demons were created by magi

Uh... No? Even if demons were made by the Magi, absolutely nothing connects Menos to being this "defective model". Why would they send someone to the future to deal with a random demon?

Given the context of everything in the story, the only thing the "defective model" could be referring to is "The Project" which was almost destroyed in the final boss fight.