Plants vs. Zombies: Game of the Year

Plants vs. Zombies: Game of the Year

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Anunaher Feb 19, 2016 @ 7:15pm
Valve support's official reply to the crash - go to PopCap.
Basically, redirected me to PopCap.


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The Plants vs. Zombies GOTY Edition official support team will have the best solutions for technical issues related to their title.

Please follow the link below to this game’s support page on our help site and log in to your Steam account:

Plants vs. Zombies GOTY Edition
https://help.steampowered.com/#HelpWithGame/?appid=3590

If you’re not seeing the specific problem on this page, select “Gameplay or technical issue.” From there, look below the “Official Support” heading for a link to the game’s customer support website, contact email address, or support phone number.


To see if other users have posted a solution to your problem, follow the link below and search for the game by title:

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This is the PopCap's response:

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Hello,

PopCap Games has undergone a few big changes, and we are very excited to share them with you! Moving forward, PopCap.com no longer offers games from our website directly. However, many of our beloved PC games have become part of the Pogo family, and their excellent team will be handling all your support needs from this point forward.

If you have previously ordered from PopCap.com, please visit:
http://downloadgames.support.pogo.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5799&_referrer=

On this page, choose Submit a Ticket. You will be prompted to create a user account or login to an existing Pogo support account.

In the drop-down menu labelled Department for Assistance, be sure to select PopCap Download Games Support. Provide them a list of your games as well as any order details you still have.

Pogo will assist you in recovering our games through their service. In the event one or more of your games is no longer available, an exchange will be offered.

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Did anyone went to Pogo to submit this ticket yet?

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Stock Feb 20, 2016 @ 7:31am 
What a major PITA...STEAM sold it, they should assist with resolving the crash issue. The game wasn't updated to bork it, STEAM did. I wish they'd own their error.
BlankOfDoom Feb 24, 2016 @ 2:49pm 
I just submitted a ticket with Pogo. I'll keep you updated on what happens.
きつね Feb 24, 2016 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by Lighteye1967:
What a major PITA...STEAM sold it, they should assist with resolving the crash issue. The game wasn't updated to bork it, STEAM did. I wish they'd own their error.

Thats stupid. Go to a store get a faulty TV you will most likely get directed back to the developers.

Since its not thier game, they did not code it, and did not make the dev tools for it how exactly would they do this?, or are you saying every single game for sale on steam should be supported by steam for software issues?

I will leave you to think of why this is illogical.
Batman Feb 24, 2016 @ 11:23pm 
To use your example to this case it would be if an employer of the said store showed up at your home and installed a device on your perfectly functional TV and it refused to work after that. Is it still the TV company's fault and shouldn't you be pissed if said store refused to accept their responsibility for altering your TV?

It was a steam update that crashed the game for basicly everybody, it was not an update from popcap, so I don't think it's unresonable to demand they at least own up to their mistake.
きつね Feb 25, 2016 @ 1:30am 
Steam doesn't make updates, they distribute them.
If i had a faulty product i would seek help from the store first then company that made it second, with the understanding the ultimate responsibility of the warranty is on the company that made it.

If my tv gets a firmware UPDATE and dies because of that then i should take it back to the store?

As far as installation goes if someone follows the guide of the company that made the product and it is wrong / causes issue guess who needs to fix that?...

And you failed to answer if you think steam should support all games on the market place when they did not make them and they dont have any of the dev tools for them, is that because your counter argument is weak and flawed?
Anunaher Feb 25, 2016 @ 8:25pm 
Look, standalone PvZ GOTY still works. I tried.
And yes, Steam must provide basic support for their wares. And they do, via knowledge base and community support. But - how do they update the knowledge base, ever stopped to think of that? Basically by answering your support tickets.
So yes, there should be some meaningful triage on the incoming tickets that is NOT HERE right now. Even the Steam CIO or whoever admits that their support contractors look to 'minimize amount of people asking for support', not the 'maximize percent of successfully resolved support tickets'.

Ordon Draconis Feb 28, 2016 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by きつね:
Steam doesn't make updates, they distribute them.

Steam does make updates. There are Seam overlays, DLL's, etc. Every couple of weeks there's a message saying that there are updates to *Steam*. Those have nothing to do with when an individual game has a version update from its individual developers.

Plants vs. Zombies has not had an update from its developers in YEARS. That's actually been a bone of contention in the PC community. Yet the game started producing fatal errors immediately upon completion of a *STEAM* update a month ago.

The game has no errors for anyone purchasing it through any forum other than Steam. So its not a game error. Its not an OS error. The common denominator is... STEAM. Also, the game worked for years until the very day that STEAM made an update to STEAM. Its fairly obtuse not to see the obvious pattern.

The fatal error can be resolved by adjusting a single file called... STEAM.DLL. This is a common DLL to all games. It is not Plants vs. Zombies specific. The error is therefore in STEAM.DLL. There is nothing that PopCap can do about this file.

The fact that you're so wrong, and yet insulting the people who actually understand the issue, should cause you concern.

All that said, I am a fan of Valve and Steam. I remember the pre-Steam days and this system is the best so far. But they're not perfect. This issue is theirs and I wish they'd own it. And I'll answer your pedantic question. Of course, steam is not responsible for any update to any game they sell. But they are responsible for their overlay and delivery system. And they are responsible when a change to that system breaks games for which people previously paid them.

きつね Feb 29, 2016 @ 2:34am 
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Hope you liked it.
Ordon Draconis Mar 3, 2016 @ 12:03am 
Originally posted by きつね:
...Steam doesn't make updates...
Originally posted by きつね:
...Thats stupid...
Originally posted by きつね:
...I will leave you to think of why this is illogical...
Originally posted by きつね:
... your counter argument is weak and flawed...

Well, what paradox just opened up and swallowed reality?

*Steam* was just updated. The *Steam* update just fixed the very issue caused by a previous *Steam* update. They did that by updating a *Steam* file. PopCap wasn't involved at all.

And yet, how is that possible when you've been ridiculing people about their stupid beliefs that Steam was responsible? Since you call everyone else illogical, I'll need you to explain this seeming paradox to me, because me so stupid.
Anunaher Mar 3, 2016 @ 8:26pm 
Ahaha, well said, my friend. The Apocalypse is averted, four riders are playing bridge, hell froze over and my wife happily plays PvZ. Just in time, I say. Just in time.
DEETS Mar 11, 2016 @ 7:45am 
Originally posted by swart:
Basically, redirected me to PopCap.


===== quote starts ====
The Plants vs. Zombies GOTY Edition official support team will have the best solutions for technical issues related to their title.

Please follow the link below to this game’s support page on our help site and log in to your Steam account:

Plants vs. Zombies GOTY Edition
https://help.steampowered.com/#HelpWithGame/?appid=3590

If you’re not seeing the specific problem on this page, select “Gameplay or technical issue.” From there, look below the “Official Support” heading for a link to the game’s customer support website, contact email address, or support phone number.


To see if other users have posted a solution to your problem, follow the link below and search for the game by title:

==== quote ends ====

This is the PopCap's response:

==== quote starts ====
Hello,

PopCap Games has undergone a few big changes, and we are very excited to share them with you! Moving forward, PopCap.com no longer offers games from our website directly. However, many of our beloved PC games have become part of the Pogo family, and their excellent team will be handling all your support needs from this point forward.

If you have previously ordered from PopCap.com, please visit:
http://downloadgames.support.pogo.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5799&_♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

On this page, choose Submit a Ticket. You will be prompted to create a user account or login to an existing Pogo support account.

In the drop-down menu labelled Department for Assistance, be sure to select PopCap Download Games Support. Provide them a list of your games as well as any order details you still have.

Pogo will assist you in recovering our games through their service. In the event one or more of your games is no longer available, an exchange will be offered.

==== quote ends ====

Did anyone went to Pogo to submit this ticket yet?

I went through all of this and more. I can provide some pretty detailed documentation too. Here's my experience with their customer "support". http://steamcommunity.com/app/3590/discussions/0/451850468377026372/

Also, just because Steam broke it doesn't make Popcap any less responsible for their product. It's their responsibility to maintain working products on all platforms they choose to sell it on. The responsibility lies solely on them.
Last edited by DEETS; Mar 11, 2016 @ 7:46am
IZVINI Mar 11, 2016 @ 8:37am 
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Date Posted: Feb 19, 2016 @ 7:15pm
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