why was English voices taken out?

[MSgt Peterson]

just curious, I know this is an anime basically,(japanese thing really) but why inst there option for english voices? Am not saying have the entire story in english, hell am fine with just the voice from the battles where they have only 4 qoutes each.

Will there be a option to turn off Japanese voices? I cant stand ♥♥♥ voices in game, the english ones sounded right to me lol

[MSgt Peterson]

I guess the devlopers care more about the japanese audiance then the american audience

[Auro]

I loved the English VA. It was cheesy, but I found it endearing. JP VO doesn't really do it for me personally. Maybe once all of Sunrider is out, a fandub could be organized and voice the story bits as well as the in-battle stuff.

Edit: I mean I can't necessarily blame them, VN style games are still very niche in America and I can understand if they want to expand that they have to cater to Japan, buuuuuut they should keep in mind their original fanbase. Kind of screwed either way imo.

[1stReaper]

引用自 Magpie：

Just as a summary for the voices there is a experimental 2.0 which we are still testing, this restores the English lines for combat scenarios. The Japanese VA'ing will still be present in the story segments (between combat scenarios), your favourite lines are returning but there is still quite a bit to iron out.

Hold in there a bit longer! :Kayto:

does that mean asagas getting the ability to fire her lazers back ! :D wooo :P

since claude got killed never thought i'd actually miss her lines to lol :P
and ofcourse goes without saying icari and solas lines :P

after all ;) she doesn't do it because she likes you lol

[YellowMage]

引用自 1stReaper：

引用自 Magpie：

Just as a summary for the voices there is a experimental 2.0 which we are still testing, this restores the English lines for combat scenarios. The Japanese VA'ing will still be present in the story segments (between combat scenarios), your favourite lines are returning but there is still quite a bit to iron out.

Hold in there a bit longer! :Kayto:

does that mean asagas getting the ability to fire her lazers back ! :D wooo :P

since claude got killed never thought i'd actually miss her lines to lol :P
and ofcourse goes without saying icari and solas lines :P

after all ;) she doesn't do it because she likes you lol

V2.0 is out in the beta opt-ins, ENG battle voices and disable option for the Japanese story voiceover, the ship map and galaxy map(briefly) return etc and a LOT MORE STORY. I was very surprised by how much they added to be honest.

I may have just blasted through it...

PLAY IT NOW IT'S MINDBLOWING

[Nemjen]

Remember to let us know if you have any additional feedback on the battle voices and we will escalate for you where we can.

Glad to hear you are enjoying it SWW!

[1stReaper]

@SWW
awesome :D
hopefully i wont feel as empty this time XD...
same thing happenes when i watch an anime,,, get massively into it and it just ENDS XD
i always get a empty feeling :'< ... elfen lied was the worst for it lmao (if you've seen the ending you'll know what i mean)....

@magpie
thats sweet :)
i shoudn't have any issues, as long as the combat voices are back and asagas firing her lazers :p and the incombat cutscenes ill be a happy bunnie... space whale :P

speaking of the combat cutscenes
the vanguard scene looked kickass =)
(it would be freaking awesome if the normal combat scenes had something like that, instead of just the ryder moving the spite across the enemy or the sunrider firing)


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as for playing LD :'< i wont be able to enjoy the overhaul till i get home =/... having to take a bussiness trip .............sucksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[Nemjen]

引用自 1stReaper：

@magpie
thats sweet :)
i shoudn't have any issues, as long as the combat voices are back and asagas firing her lazers :p and the incombat cutscenes ill be a happy bunnie... space whale :P

speaking of the combat cutscenes
the vanguard scene looked kickass =)
(it would be freaking awesome if the normal combat scenes had something like that, instead of just the ryder moving the spite across the enemy or the sunrider firing)

It's unfortunately a catch 22, if battle animations are included then people can potentially have additional performance issues leaving them annoyed but if they are not included then other fans will be annoyed that they are not there. Personally I get the feeling this change was done to speed up the combat scenarios as they tended to go on for a while in MoA, they'll be missed but I personally prefer it without the animations.

If only Asaga was the captain aye? Then the 'firing my laser' line would work just as well with the vanguard animation.

Elfen Lied's adaption fell into the trap where it's plot was quite complex (I don't even think it was fully written at time the anime aired) therefore it was compressed, the anime doesn't actually reflect the true ending. Sadly until they find a publisher in the West the only manga versions available are Japanese and German (I believe).

[1stReaper]

@the catch 22,
ah yeah, fair does, at the moment i've noticed theres issues with the FPS which is odd
considering i run a i7 4790, GTX 970 asus strix, 12GB ram windows 8.1
(it gets my goat when my "some-what powerful pc" cant handle most games at 60fps :S, gets me thinking why have i spent a grand total of £1200 on upgrading it, and sticking it on steroids lol if its still having issues) or at least was, last time i played LD.

@the animations
dont get me wrong, i can deal with it, im old enough not to get pissy and throw a temper tentrum lol, i just class it as sadly one of thoses things that got the axe, i agree it did drag the combat out a bit, and did sometimes drop the fps, but it was still a nice thing to see :)
even if at the time it was only a slideshow of images stuck next to or over another.
(the current combats animations are fine the ordnance, missiles and lasers frying across the screen) i just miss the combat zoom ins :P

@the new combat scene
it was a good move making the vanguard have its own scene, makes it more special :P
(it just would have been cool seeing sola readying her sniper rifle, charging and firing it gundam wing style :P)

<<when you see the particaly beam charging up around the barrel of the rifle you know whoever is being fired at is f**ked>>
..... i think it was gundam wing..... its been so long i forgot... or was it appleseed....

(whoever it was, would sort of "slam down the rifle" from pointing upward, it would have like a spiral effect around the barrels nozzle while "sucking up" yellow coloured particals then fire as as a beam)

similair to this.. but the nozzle was circluar and the change up was yellow http://i.imgur.com/X3BZzBc.gif
------ if that sounds familiar please let me know what anime its from as its going to do my head in now trying to think what it was lmao ----

@elfen
its a shame that they didn't complete the anime, as the manga was fully finished,
from what i heard the reason they stopped at lucy knocking at the door just before it finished.... ((come on we could tell it was lucy by the figure alone lmao))
was to have it as a cliff hanger to be continued sort of thing, because at the time the fanbase wasn't that great it just took a massive vanguard to the backside and sky-rocketed over the last few years HOWEVER it seems there ARE talks about it getting rebooted
so thats going to be awesome :D

it did feel like i had the soul sucked out of me when it finished tho :'<
thats the only thing i hate about animes,,, how you'll get massively into a story and it just ends..... bleach now is the worst one -.- i want to watch the 1000 year war saga

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anyways lol sorry about my rant and rave on

[Darkin]

I'm annoyed that they are not there. As for the speed up of the combat, an option to toggle them on or off would have solved that for the people who don't like them. Concerning the performance issues, they are still there, even without the animations.

Now that the English voices are back I can get used to the animations being gone, but it will be hard. The battles just don't feel as epic anymore.

[Mistfox]

Do agree, the chessboard feel just doesn't give the suspense of the original when you are on the edge as the round comes in ... and misses. Or hits and explodes. Right now, it is "lines across screen, HP bar drops".

Can't help but think that while the developers are trying, they might be trying a bit too hard.

[Nemjen]

The ongoing performance issues are something that has come up previously however in comparison to MoA the general consensus is that it has improved. I would assume this is why a new engine is in consideration for future installments. I don't speak for LiS on this but while turning animations on and off seems like a simple concept the original ones would have to be optimised and new ones created which is not a simple task (this does not include the stress testing which would have to be done for both modes).

I would recommend leaving your feedback in terms of gameplay on the 2.00 discussion as this is a primarily a discussion geared towards the audio.

That way the devs can review it when it comes to the next Sunrider project: http://steamcommunity.com/app/358750/discussions/0/405694115199819119/

[1stReaper]

@Mag
altho the new system looked awesome
i personally liked it :).
(altho :p i do still miss the animated battles)

the FPS on arrival and MoA was never that mad with me
it'd drop at most down to around 30 to 40fps
(but that was only from the combat animations)

but you guys and girls are doing your best and thats all i can ask for :).
ifthe fixes are anything like disgaeas fixes then it'll feel like a whole new game XD
(that too had issues when it got released, but morphed into a prety much flawless game, or least that i've seen upto now and i've got a lv 523 etna XD)

[Choungthai72]

Who knows? maybe an anime studio producer might pick this game up and make an anime out of it. It's got great plot, you can definately do what Grissaia did and tone down the explicit things that happen. I would totally watch a show like this. It's like a mix between aldnoah and Iron Blooded orphans. you've got the intelligent strategic commander (implied of course as this is never really noticed unless you put yourself as the person commanding a fleet of ryders and cruisers) like whatshisname from aldnoah, The MC is charismatic like Orga from Iron Blooded, Rei ayanami expy (check), no yandere??????, Two rin tohsaka's who are adorable in their own bittersweet ways, amane sou expy, possible yuri, waifu wars that are somewhat close, and a good story to tell.

[Clove]

Wait... this game has performance issues with battle animations? I never would have guessed it would be a game like this that would be the impetus for me wanting a better computer.

I guess I can just wait until this goes on sale then.

I have a stock I-5 asus laptop with no video card, runs Starcraft2 and other stuff on low settings fine... but it does have very minor stutters in mask of arcadius if I hit the mouse before an animation is done.

Japanese voice acting... kind of lame. I guess it is acceptable that english battle voices are modded back in. So long it is an equivalent experience to mask of arcadius to finish the story.

[Nemjen]

As of v2.00 the English combat voices can be toggled on and off with the Japanese in the settings along with disabling the Japanese VA'ing during story segments. It should be noted that these story segments (non combat) do not have an English alternative so if you disable it then you will only have the text dialogue for the narrative.