Sell Me ( vs Total War / Civilization)

[Lord von Games]

Having the Civlizations, and all the Total War games (including amazing Chinese scenarios/mods), what makes this game stand out? I have always had a fondness for RTS and definitely 4X variants. What makes this game worth investing in? Superior Diplomacy?Edict Kingdom Management? Customization? Major differences from others in this genre?

[Lord von Games]

Thanks guys! Great reviews gameplay points and insights.

[Sarkin]

oh an one thing i'd like to add, games like Oriental are atleast trying something new. i don't know about you but Total War popping out games with new paint but doing nothing really innovative, or Civs making the same exact game with newer graphics...is just boring.

i think its important to support the Devs who are actually working on new things trying new concepts an ideas.

[rlg007]

Best thing you can do when deciding whether or not to buy a game on Steam is to read only the negative reviews. Most negative game reviews will have a common thread. If only Steam could create algorithm to summarize the negative reviews...

[Sarkin]

Originally posted by rlg007:

Best thing you can do when deciding whether or not to buy a game on Steam is to read only the negative reviews. Most negative game reviews will have a common thread. If only Steam could create algorithm to summarize the negative reviews...

except negative reviews are generally people who have little play time, or didn't bother to learn the game before making them.(generally speaking not just for oriental.)

i find that if you're going to relay on reviews its good to read the positive and the negatives , ignore the ones that are purely negative, and the ones that are purely positive. look for reviews that are detailed gives you a general idea of the game play. and isn't just someone ranting , or raving about the game. then compare the positive an negative reviews so you can sort out the true statements from the biased ones.

[Jimib4158]

This is a much better game then civ 6 imo AND ITS BROKEN GARBAGE AI....about on par with CIV 5, with an oriental fdlare


not really like TW a bit, IF YOU WANT tw THIS IS NOT IT....more civish

[caroraim]

Originally posted by ThatGuy1979:

Originally posted by Fantoche Dreemurr:

What a complete tool the OP is. "Sell me"? How about you buy the game and refund if you don't like it instead of asking strangers to validate your own opinion?

It's a grand strategy game. You can't really review it till you've played at least a good 30-40 hours which is 28 hours over the refund time.

LOL...about right. Great game, just hate the UNREST!

[Aries]

Well, I looked at twitch numbers for civ 6,, it's lower than the division 95% drop off.. Even Filthy Robot who's a minmax madman and streamed civ5 for years isn't playing it. Total war was for the micro of battles and grand campaign.. Also I'm not a fan of warhammer since I never painted fkn figurines in my basement as a kid due to having a life and playing lil league.. Also I'm in the alpha of the TW:Arena but it's proving to be cancerous due to being taken over by Wargaming™, which as history tells will turn it into p2w aids like wot/wows.. which I spent more hours grinding than I want to admit

You don't micro armies in OE and you don't make a single unit for 300 years like in civ.. I was on board OE at day one.. I watched lp's; mostly of Havok, and saw the pros n cons and liked the game, the theme and the direction.. Even with the iffy combat n other bugs like trade routes... Learned to deal and adjust.. NOw it's been many months since that time but I haven't had time to get back into it since I'm crushing skulls as vikings in Northgard but.. If you're into Orient ol time China empires, posting 'sell me' is dumb, watch utube, twitch and go from there..

My dumb gf asked what's so great about back door once, so I tried to 'sell her'.. I said, you gonna feel a little pressure at first but then It'll feel great.. Now she texts me 'I want Howard to visit the back door' yes, that the nickname she gave..as I said she's a dumbas

[Sanvone]

Well basically what aaror and Kumorigachi said (with exception that I do think this has a learning curve especialy if you are used to some methods from other games - after EA release there was a whole bunch of CIV veterans that were getting destroyed in OE).

Game is more focused on single time period than Civ but less than Total War. It put's huge emphasis on macromanagment and seems kinda rough at first. The deeper rabbit hole you go, the more suprise you encounter and with time it all starts to "click in" into perfect sense. Being the same but yet so different is this game selling point for me. If you are tired of TW or Civ formula and want something fresh in this convention then I would advice getting Oriental Empire.

Personally I don't like advertising games to people which I don't know well. I always feel like they just want others to take responsibility for their choice. So if you can't decide then wait (more playthroughs on YT or maybe some demo/free weekend far in the future) or get something other (there is plenty of games on steam). Because in the end of the game if you don't like that game then nobody will be able to change your feeling towards it.

Peace