Trine 2

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「 joker 」 Jul 25, 2017 @ 12:18am
3D using AMD HD3D broken
Hey, I just stumbled on this, as it's pretty prominently placed in the launcher, and thought I would try it out. But the feature is just broken.

I tried verifying with the TriDef software and it works fine there with either HD3D , OpenGl or D3D API.

I also toyed with it a few years ago in Deus Ex:HR and there it worked, but obviously completely different Windows version and driver.

But this all points to the problem being on your side.

Please remove the corresponding checkbox from the launcher, so people wont waste their time!

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As I understand it, this HD3D stuff was once needed as there wasnt any support for 3D in Direct3d. This was added in 11.1 (Windows 8), though. So if you would really want to you could support it this way.

Also the "AMD Quad Buffer SDK" that was once used to support HD3D seems to be long gone too. As mentioned above the driver still seems to support it, though.

And I guess it's pretty clear that nobody gives a rat's♥♥♥♥♥about this niche feature in a long forgotten game on old hardware, anyway.

Windows 10 x64 with Catalyst 15.201.1151.1008

I'm just hoping some developer reads this and removes the option or at least I can help some pour lost google soul.
Last edited by 「 joker 」; Jul 25, 2017 @ 12:20am
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MarjutFB  [developer] Jul 26, 2017 @ 12:05am 
I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but seems like you're managing to play alright? :)

Unfortunately we probably won't make updates for this, but still thanks for the report. Feedback is always welcome and maybe this helps someone else. I'm also forwarding this ahead in case we have some extra time to look into this.

Let me know if you still have questions, but otherwise I just hope you'll enjoy playing.

Cheers!
JoelFB  [developer] Jul 26, 2017 @ 5:17am 
Apologies for the confusion...

Changing the config is a bit more tricky than it seems (for an older game that doesn't have our latest build processes), and I'm afraid we won't be able to touch it easily...

That said, if you're not completely frustrated, there's a couple of simple things you could try to see if HD3D would still work in the game:

1) Try Trine Enchanted Edition. Maybe the HD3D-breaking changes never made it into it...

2) Download an older version of Trine 2. In Steam, go to Properties for the game, then under Betas choose "Old - Old v1.14". The feature has worked at some point in the game's lifecycle, so maybe we get lucky. Sadly looks like we don't have any old versions available for Trine EE.

But beyond these it's an uphill battle, HD3D was never a big focus for us. If you're an expert at toying with the 3D options, you could try one of the more general options and use some software to make it work I guess... but alas, my personal experience is limited to Nvidia's 3D Vision. I think HD3D was just a competitor of sorts to Nvidia and they both needed to use propriertary 3D technology at the time, and Nvidia was much more focused on it. We probably don't support any generic 3D stuff that was added in Win 8/10.

If nothing else, I too hope this post sheds some light on the issue so others won't have to spend time on something that seems to be broken in the game... Sorry!

- Joel, Frozenbyte team, developers of the Trine series
Last edited by JoelFB; Jul 26, 2017 @ 5:19am
「 joker 」 Jul 29, 2017 @ 7:55am 
Hey, thanks for the thorough replies! But I think you actually took this a bit more serious than me :)

I just saw the option and thought I would give it a try. I'm not a fan of this 3D fad anyway. (It's over already, right?)
In case of games that use it, I even quickly get a headache.

I just thought I would help the one guy that would actually like to play with it on and save them some debugging.

It would have been nice though if you would have removed the option, seeing it's prominent position. But I can totally understand your reluctance to dig into such an old game for an unused niche feature. Worth a shot though.
Last edited by 「 joker 」; Jul 29, 2017 @ 8:08am
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