Ranked online conquest is really irritating

[GrocKing]

It's just filled with orcs that are immune to everything , will get enraged at everything and just will straight up one shot you.

I feel like having upgrades at garrison was a huge mistake. Should've been just random orcs that you picked so if you had good orcs it would mean you put in time and you deserved it.

I also kinda wish there was some kind of game mode where i could just endlessly do conquests WITHOUT other players' input.

Right now only mode you can do something similar to that is online vendetta which is kind of a hassle since it constantly changes positions on the map instead of just conviniently being in front of your fortress.

[bob]

the online conquest is completely ruined by stupid ass hacked orcs, it's so sad. i wanted to fight other peoples interesting orcs and strongholds but it's just completely ruined.

[PROPHYZ]

it's best you get some friends who play legit with no cheats at all / using no cheated orcs and play against their fortress - you still get exp. You don't even have to add them on steam, just use the search function on friendly conquest.

Most fun you can have, if this also fails invade your own.
Online is the same orcs over and over again with 0 theme going, it's stupid and a waste of your time.

''I also kinda wish there was some kind of game mode where i could just endlessly do conquests WITHOUT other players' input.'' This is already in the game, called literally the shadow wars.

Problem is for attacking you need to lose forts, so this kinda blows. At least you can defend over and over again I guess. Use LITHLAD region, it has 0 rating impact. There are many high ranked players (over 8k rating), who DID in fact put in the time with absolute 0 cheats - it's possible to do it but so fkn annoying I stoped playing online sieges.

Setting up your own army of ''perfect orcs'' with no stupid glitches or cheats can take 100's - 1.000's of hours. So yeah the ones who ''deserve'' it as you say took the time to do so.
I would say cheaters def ruined the fun of online sieges, but this is such a minor impact.. shouldn't destroy your fun with literally anything else. If you are after a high rating for what ever meaningless reason - you just have to adapt and deal with it.

Explosive Glaive been my go to, I didn't even absue the wrathgiver (since the interaction with elven light counting as executions is a bug/glitch as well, might as well just cheat at this point.) My highest defense/attack rating was 1200 with regular farmed orcs, so it's still an option.

[GrocKing]

Originally posted by PROPHYZ™:

''I also kinda wish there was some kind of game mode where i could just endlessly do conquests WITHOUT other players' input.'' This is already in the game, called literally the shadow wars.

Problem is for attacking you need to lose forts, so this kinda blows. At least you can defend over and over again I guess.

Yep. I also forgot that existed i guess because at the time of that post i didn't finish the game yet (was replaying the whole story)

Originally posted by PROPHYZ™:

I would say cheaters def ruined the fun of online sieges, but this is such a minor impact.. shouldn't destroy your fun with literally anything else. If you are after a high rating for what ever meaningless reason - you just have to adapt and deal with it.

Didn't really realize people cheated tbh but after looking at some posts it's pretty obvious that most of these orcs are cheated. However the whole garrison thing is still a bit busted imo. You can buff their damage and health to an insane amount i think which explains the whole "1-shot" thing.

Originally posted by PROPHYZ™:

Setting up your own army of ''perfect orcs'' with no stupid glitches or cheats can take 100's - 1.000's of hours. So yeah the ones who ''deserve'' it as you say took the time to do so.

Not really anymore i guess. With the whole new cheated orcs even people WITHOUT the cheats can just dominate them as long as they don't have iron will which i'm guessing have messed up the whole ecosystem. Wish we had an "AI" conquest with random orcs tbh. I know that shadow wars exist but defending kinda sucks. My best bet i guess is the friendly conquest and online vendettas i guess.

[Dr. Sinclair]

yeah, i really wish we could just get a siege with random orcs without having to lose our fort. lack of foresight that people will, obviously, cheat, when there is no anti cheat measures, ruined the whole conquest thing.

i wouldnt even say an anti cheat would be necessary per se, i do not care if people cheat to conquer my forts. it doesnt affect me. but implement something akin to what borderlands 1 did and implement a sanity check - the game should look at the captains, realize "wait a minute this isnt supposed to be possible" (eg 7 epic traits...) and just delete it or something. Wouldnt stop people from creating "perfect" legit captains, but it would be something.
but alas, too late for that.

Originally posted by GrocKing:

Didn't really realize people cheated tbh but after looking at some posts it's pretty obvious that most of these orcs are cheated. However the whole garrison thing is still a bit busted imo. You can buff their damage and health to an insane amount i think which explains the whole "1-shot" thing.

actually not true. you cannot do anything trough the garrison that you cannot do with a regular orc. there is nothing that just "boosts their damage to insane ammounts". best you can do is give them an epic trait or make them legendary, which, well... happens naturally. or give them a mount/gang/elemental weapon, again, happens naturally, and isnt always a good thing. you dont want a fire weapon vs a captain who is enraged by fire now, do you?
the "legit" way to get a captain that is immune to everything and has a lot of strengths is to level them up from a low level, and exposing them to things along the way. let a level 30 captain kill you until he's level 80 and you might end up with a really powerful captain under your belt that is considerably stronger than a freshly spawned level 80 captain.

[PROPHYZ]

As I wrote before, I only kill or shame cheated orcs. So yeah getting my army rdy takes me a while, esp. when I start new games.

Now if people bring back cheated orcs from vendettas - sucks to be them, it defeats the whole nemesis system and they gain absolute nothing. 7777 orcs without any glitches, hacks, weakness what not do just fine.

If you want some of those (with no cheats), you rly have to know some game mechanics & well have some time & luck working for you. Did many of my orcs die doing online sieges on a fkn 8k rating - yeah I stoped counting, you bet. Was the sacrifice worth it ? Not even close, but needed. I just stick with friends, or you can check some discord groups what not. People made a great list with themed forts you can take on, just have to type the name and go.
Let's say a fort with only ''Wild'', if you think their scream is hilarious.. doesn't get any better.

For your sanity sake it's save to say online forts against cheaters can be totally ignored - they are as anti fun as it gets. What you bring into YOUR game is none of my business anyway, still would highly advise to leave your fingers from hacked orcs.

[Mushihimesama MAYA]

There actually is an anti cheat system, but it's for the player not the orcs. I guess they didn't expect anyone to mod the orcs to be unstoppable, or could mod them at all.

[Dr. Sinclair]

Originally posted by Mushi:

There actually is an anti cheat system, but it's for the player not the orcs. I guess they didn't expect anyone to mod the orcs to be unstoppable, or could mod them at all.

has to be the worst anti cheat ever then. stops basically nothing

[GrocKing]

Originally posted by Dr. Sinclair:

actually not true. you cannot do anything trough the garrison that you cannot do with a regular orc. there is nothing that just "boosts their damage to insane ammounts".

I'm not really sure since i haven't used it really but isn't there an item where it increases their damage? There is AFAIK. I'm not sure if you can apply it more than once though.

[Dr. Sinclair]

Originally posted by GrocKing:

Originally posted by Dr. Sinclair:

actually not true. you cannot do anything trough the garrison that you cannot do with a regular orc. there is nothing that just "boosts their damage to insane ammounts".

I'm not really sure since i haven't used it really but isn't there an item where it increases their damage? There is AFAIK. I'm not sure if you can apply it more than once though.

are you reffering to the epic trait that increases their damage?
this again, spawns on epic/legendary captains randomly. just like everything else you can do with the garrison.

[Dr. Sinclair]

Originally posted by PROPHYZ™:

Let's say a fort with only ''Wild'', if you think their scream is hilarious.. doesn't get any better.

saw a fort full of bruz at one point. funniest siege i ever had.

[Pandora]

You can increase their damages with rings and gems, but that not the issue with online sieges.
Its just orcs lvl up being far greater than us. We unlike them arent supposed to be a damage sponge killing a captain in 3 or 4 hits.
So at lvl 80 its easy to meet a legit one shotter.
There are also those dlc epic traits, but yeah, its the obvious cheater part.

[GrocKing]

Originally posted by Dr. Sinclair:

Originally posted by GrocKing:

I'm not really sure since i haven't used it really but isn't there an item where it increases their damage? There is AFAIK. I'm not sure if you can apply it more than once though.

are you reffering to the epic trait that increases their damage?
this again, spawns on epic/legendary captains randomly. just like everything else you can do with the garrison.

I guess so yeah.

[Darth Alpharius]

if you convert a hacked orc does it break the save?

[Dr. Sinclair]

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

if you convert a hacked orc does it break the save?

nope. you can use it yourself just fine.

[Darth Alpharius]

Originally posted by Dr. Sinclair:

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

if you convert a hacked orc does it break the save?

nope. you can use it yourself just fine.

do they keep all there traits (like for farming)?