How do I get this game running on Windows 10 ?

[Iron Knights]

Ran fine in Windows 7, 8.1, same hardware, no changes, same OS setup, same GPU setups.
HW specs in my profile (open). I ran it with no pagefile in the prior OS-es, not the problem.
I get to main menu, Benchmark CTDs right before display, before running. Starting the Game crashes and sometimes I get an "Out of Memory" error. VRAM displays 3840 in settings instead of 4096, I understand it disregards Crossfire, so technically I would run with 8gb, but 4gb is fine for this game in regards to VRAM. Any advice from technical professionals ?
Windows is 10 Home, wanted to bypass the Group Policy & Domain problems by not having that installed as Pro.

[Xupicor]

I never had problems with it on Windows 10. Running just fine on 11 Pro as well.

Any other game has problems? Have you changed OS after installing the game on Steam? Are you sure you have appropriate drivers for GPU, mobo, DirectX runtimes, maybe .NET runtimes, etc, installed?

[[☥] - CJ -]

4GB not being fully shown is normal as it doesnt count the reserved amount, thus 3840 instead of 4096.

And crossfire is still 4GB separately for each card, they dont combine, never have, except in the case of certain DX12 games, so each card in the case of this game is still 4GB for each card, not 8GB in total.

Have you tried disabling one GPU and playing with the main GPU only? its possible it doesnt like crossfire.

Lowering the graphic settings below 4GB VRAM is also an option.

In case you werent aware, when a GPUs VRAM maxes out or nearly maxes out, System RAM is used as additional graphics memory, this is called Shared Memory, Half of your Physical RAM can be used as additional graphics memory if ever needed, so as you have 4GB VRAM GPUs thats essentially up to half of your PCs RAM.

So if you dont have enough available RAM for whatever settings you chose that out of memory error makes sense.

ALSO
If you have the pagefile disabled that is also a potential problem as the pagefile acts as Virtual Memory, that being space on your drive, so that would also be plausible to make that error show up.

So what i recommend is
For pagefile settings set a Custom STATIC Min and Max amount of 8192, this is what ive always had set and never once had an issue.

You should also make sure your OS drive has enough free space as filling up your OS drive and not having enough free space can also give you memory errors having to do with the pagefile and available RAM/VRAM.

With that said, as someone that tested running without a pagefile for a while, there are games that REQUIRE a pagefile to be enabled to handle such memory issues, i found absolutely no reason to have it disabled and i still dont. Just because you have 16GB or more RAM is not a reason to disable the pagefile, some games AND programs actually rely on it.
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So
Try disabling the secondary GPU and see what happens
If it continues try setting the pagefile to what i suggested and see what happens

IF at that point it works fine, enable the 2nd GPU again and go from there.

[Iron Knights]

Everything clean installed, was working without the MS memory leak on Windows 7. Did not work on Windows 10. Memory Leak activated, works now, but it will ruin my boot drive faster, that is for sure, not worth it for 1 game. Disabling crossfire did not work, GPU load as show for settings used - 2.7gb.

[Iron Knights]

Game was working in Windows 7 & 8.1 with NO PAGEFILE. So either WB changed the game through "updates" or Windows 10 cannot handle RAM or Steam has become too fat & bloated for gaming.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Win10 handles the pagefile better than Win7 and 8
If you havent tried it on yet do as i suggested and set a custom min/max of 8192

[Iron Knights]

Nope, will uninstall the game instead, and then remove pagefile memory leak again. I have no use for it. Did you not read what I wrote above ?

[[☥] - CJ -]

If you run low on RAM some memory is moved to the pagefile, its size is not something to worry about but If you disable the pagefile then that will cause problems if something relies on it. Disabling the pagefile can naturally interfere with that process

You cant expect things to work the same going from one OS to another

The fact you wont even bother trying to see if the pagefile being disabled is the CAUSE of the problem and therefore your Fault

For the record
Resource usage going from Win7 to Win10 increased for games to some extent so that could potentially be what you're seeing.

That aside
There is absolutely NO REASON to disable the pagefile on Win10/11
It doesnt do what you think it does EXCEPT for save disk space
It does not increase performance

Well good luck using a bandaid instead of actually trying to cure the problem.

[Iron Knights]

DDR3 Still Faster than SATA 3, yes it does increase performance.
Trashing an SSD is just as bad if not worse than trashing an HDD with junk files.
Any Drive written "ram" can become corrupted, source of instability.
Any "ram pagefile" can be read by browsers and Gulag Chrome will be looking to it.
You didn't read what I wrote, because this is not a rumor, I ran ALL games including THIS one in Win 7/8.1 without a memory leak. I've not had the memory leak since I added 4gb Ram to Windows XP. Everything was running optimal fastest my HW could.
I asked for expert advice on purpose, you are not such person. Goodbye.

[[☥] - CJ -]

As i said, i used to do the same thing so i have experience with it as well and my results showed disabling the pagefile is IRRELEVANT when it comes to performance differences

You are comparing Win7 to Win10, Win10 handles things better
Just because something worked fine on Win7 DOES NOT Automatically mean you'll get the same results on Win10

You want expert advice? You wont even ENTERTAIN the possibility that what i'm saying is accurate so what the hell would an expert saying the same thing i am matter?

ALL you have to do is TEMPORARILY reenable the pagefile TO FIND OUT if it being disabled is the problem or not.

ALSO
Enabling it then disabling it again to see if it was causing a problem after the update is also something to try

But no
You're too hard headed and ignorant to even CONSIDER the possibility that the pagefile being disabled COULD be the cause.

I'm basing MY EXPERIENCE with running with the pagefile disabled for a while and the issues i ran into as a possible TROUBLESHOOTING step for you to take

not liking the answer i gave IS NOT a valid reason for you to even TRY IT

So good luck with your screwed up PC/Game
Have a nice day :)

Oh, and try looking at OTHER causes of your alleged memory leak like Outdated drivers because a pagefile memory leak is basically non existent. And considering you upgraded to Win10 a driver issue is likely the problem (especially if you have a Killer NIC for example)

also
i dare you to do a gaming benchmark with and without the pagefile because you WILL NOT notice a difference. Previous versions of Windows may have sucked at handling the pagefile but WIN10 DOES NOT.

again, have a nice day.

[Xupicor]

Originally posted by Iron Knights:

I've not had the memory leak since I added 4gb Ram to Windows XP

XP, huh? Man, that must have been a few years ago. All this time and you still haven't managed to learn what "memory leak" even means.

Listen, I've been running without a pagefile for a few months as well before. I had enough memory to never exceed it in games at that time. Most of the time it was OK. Most of the time. However, not all of the time. A few games had strange issues at times and certainly a few RAM hungry applications would cause predictable Out of Memory crashes when I started skirting the limit.

Nowadays I've got 64 GB of RAM and guess what, I've got a pagefile as well, just because of those few fringe issues. I dare you to provide a documented example where it affects gaming performance.

If you're so worried about performance or SSD usage - create a RAMdisk and put your pagefile there. I personally never bothered.

[Iron Knights]

Most games today load no more than 14gb which on a 16gb system will run fine.
I asked if WB changed anything or steam did or Win 10 is just bloated.
If you do not know these things do not contradict me.
You like trashing your drives ? Fine. It's a personal choice, don't call it anything else.
MEMORY LEAK. A performance degradation.

[The MidgetCrusader69]

your pc is terrible go upgrade your hardware game runs fine lmao these topics are always so useless

[[☥] - CJ -]

The fact you think it trashes your drives proves your ignorance and LACK of knowledge
Actually do some research before you believe that bs

Ive had absolutely ZERO issues and NEVER had a drive die due to the pagefile or die in general for that matter.

Your memory leak has NOTHING to do with the pagefile and has something to do with an outdated or corrupt driver or software

Searching for a pagefile memory leak doesnt even bring up any results because IT DOESNT EXIST.

The only thing hurting your PC is yourself.