Ugh, how long is the game?

[iwansquall]

I think i already like 12 hours into the game with 34% progression the save file. I think I cleared the first 3 map from all collectibles and move on to act 2 in 3rd map.

I just finished conquering the outpost (or castle?) for 3rd map and then BAM! a huge bunch of stuffs I can do with the game from conquering other region, siege online player or doing tons of those DLC tribal mission.

I dunno why I felt like fatigued if I have to involved with nemesis system over and over again for next 30 hours. Characters progression is pretty fast as I think I unlocked most of the skill, but it doesnt interested me much.

Can anyone shared how long it take:
1. If I just rush story mission with minor nemesis stuff
2. Overtaking all outpost / castle in all region
3. Getting 100% on the progression
4. Getting all achievements in the game

Gameplay loop is feel weird to me, maybe I just prefer exploration open world game now.
Not saying the game is bad, but the sense of discovering new things is gone for me.

EDITED for anyone cared (since i cant tick my reply as answer)

Originally posted by iwansquall:

This will be my last update here since I just got all achievement for the game.
The tricky one is probably get olog killing the captain, and dominate 3 kill captain (since savior tend to break the combo and kill your target).

My final stats:
35 hours for Talion, 100% everything (although my nemesis indicator bugged at 93%)
4 hours for Gadariel DLC, 100% achievement
2 hours and 45 minute for gold rating + 100% achievement.

I played on nemesis difficulty from start to end.

EDITED 2

I forgot to mention that Act 4 for Shadow of War only have 3 stages (5 defense) instead of 10 stages like many walkthrough said (20 defenses). You can just defense without needing to hire new defender, but you need to be quick with killing attacker + dominating them.

[Pandora]

Well if you rush you can get it in 30 hours, maybe a bit less? but you will be an easy target for online conquest. Cant say, i am a grinder . And i dont think you will like the post game stuff... neither online conquest xd. Cant say for tribal dlc things . And others stories are shorter xd. Some achievements are broken i think... 3rd map is Nurn? You still have to take the others so mmm yeah short, but if you rush you will skip most of the game good points (and bad xd). Poor Zog wont have anyone to revive xd. I know, to long text

[namresaw33]

I agree the main story is pretty brutal in this game. Gets boring quick. The gameplay and nemesis system are where the fun is. Thankfully after you complete it (should only be another 10 hours for you if you only focus on main missions, maybe less) you can free roam and do endless fort sieges/captain killing to your heart’s content.

[Pandora]

i doubt op want it, to repeatitve.

[iwansquall]

Atm, judging from all progression, only thing that i think i could enjoy is:
1. Doing all collectibles and challenges
2. Conquer all 5 maps (i assume i have put my full set of overlord / warchiefs)
3. Finish story content (i heard bad thing about act 4 grind)

I just realize i could just jumped back to 2nd map (i kinda surprised with level 95 thingy when witch king took over first 2 maps) after end of act 1. From there is kinda a breeze to beat captain 1 by 1 as they are general 10 to 5 level lower than me.

Also learnt my lesson not to tackle the challenge from frost map (seregoth) when the captain is level 50 in that, they 2 shots me.

Let see how i will fare during end game, i just clearing story mission in 1 map, then move into another map. Postponing the snow map atm to clear 2nd map.

[namresaw33]

Originally posted by iwansquall:

Atm, judging from all progression, only thing that i think i could enjoy is:
1. Doing all collectibles and challenges
2. Conquer all 5 maps (i assume i have put my full set of overlord / warchiefs)
3. Finish story content (i heard bad thing about act 4 grind)

I just realize i could just jumped back to 2nd map (i kinda surprised with level 95 thingy when witch king took over first 2 maps) after end of act 1. From there is kinda a breeze to beat captain 1 by 1 as they are general 10 to 5 level lower than me.

Also learnt my lesson not to tackle the challenge from frost map (seregoth) when the captain is level 50 in that, they 2 shots me.

Let see how i will fare during end game, i just clearing story mission in 1 map, then move into another map. Postponing the snow map atm to clear 2nd map.

Yeah Act 4 isn’t too bad if you enjoy the nemesis system, otherwise you’ll hate it.

[Pandora]

You are not into vendetta? It kept me busy for a while when i started

[iwansquall]

Vendetta have kinda taking a bit long time loading to me for some reason.
So it break flow a bit more than other loading screen.

Still, because I dont plan to grind much late game, i dunno if those vengeance chest will do any good for me later.

I dunno to consider if nemesis is fun or not. The main issue because I already played the Shadow of Mordor and its 2 DLC, seeing SoW didnt change much as I wanted turned me off.

Also, atm i feel like gated a lot of player level. I could easily setup by dominating bodyguard + betray specific warchief, but because level gap, i have to kill them or shame them. Then i have infiltrate one my captain, go to specific place in the map AND watching their cutscenes. Kinda tedious to me.

I know I could just make time progress, but after getting 1 betrayal myself, i dunno if I want to leave those captain idle without things to do or not

Game would be flow much better to me if I dont have level limitation. I already are most of my skill I wanted (since you only need 1 upgrade per skill) so level is just meaningless except for slowing my progression down... alot.

[FoxySellu]

my first playthrough was 70 something hours, and that was without the dlc.

[Pandora]

Maybe you had the infamous loading bug... Also, betrayals are randoms, idle or not they can betray you (some will do it because you give them to many orders-_-). Vengeance quest are good tu turn a guy to epic-legendary, seems you will end game with commun guys^^ (its douable, really). You play in nemesis or normal ? Iwansquall uh, not foxy.

[iwansquall]

Nemesis difficulty. Atm I having a breeze to capture each captain one by one.
It is just in super crowded places that I cant fight properly. Had one of the death because the game refuse to drain broken captain but instead it went for random grunt with slower animation.

Im kinda finally get into the flow, yesterday only took me 5 minute to capture 2nd map (citril urgol something) because I already dominate all captain + warchiefs during siege. About to do the same for seregost.

I only hate those pitfight since level isnt important, you need a proper skill, and some grunts guarding them to have easier fight.

[Pandora]

i feel you xd, in online siege aiming is awful. For pitfight well, lots of people made thread about how great they are (...). Not a lot of betrayal by your orcs? Wondering what will do Zog xd.

[iwansquall]

I read around walk through, apparently Lithlad the desert region is not needed for story completion. So that pretty a one off for my list (i will check it later once i finished act 3). Pretty much cleared 3 maps now, so I just need 1 whole and the 1st map.

I assume i will start seeing the aforementioned Zog. I just reached the Gorogoth region and just cleared all tower to unlock fast travel point. Then i will do all collectibles, capture the region, then lastly tackle the story mission.

About 20 hours in, I could say that that game pretty fast after reach act 2, although now I feel boring with no new skill to play with. Probably I should gather some legendary gear and level them up, although all of their bonus are boring to me.

[Pandora]

For legendary set you will need to do vendetta or finish game... you wont find (easily at least) feral and some classes just by roaming around. So no betrayers? I really want to know if Zog will end up alone xd, a spoiler but hey.

[iwansquall]

Already had 2 betrayal earlier.
Only done carnan quest until killing the balrog.
Havent met Zog for 2nd times yet.

Game is pretty fast now, I almost capture Gorogoth but i stopped and went to do story mission instead.
1 mission left for eltariel story, rest are carnan and bruz
and..... probably those desert Lilthad map (ugghh...)
then act 3 & 4.

I assume im like 85% done for main campaign part (aside from act 4 grind)
Based current pace, i assume Im done with the game in another 10 hours (minus act 4 grind, but include those 2 short DLC)

[Pandora]

Good, Zog+ 2 undeads, lucky. No quest in the desert, but his Overlord can be badass sometimes. Brutzy quests arent when you have all castles?