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Tsurumi Sep 24, 2022 @ 6:03pm
Just found out today about the nemesis system patent
Of all the unethical ♥♥♥♥ in this industry, this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ takes the cake, please, i beg everyone reading this, never pay for a wb product again, whether it means torrenting or outright stealing, we need to show these animals what happens when they ♥♥♥♥ with us
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Tsurumi Sep 24, 2022 @ 6:12pm 
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/65136?tab=description found out through this mod, this guy had a fantastic idea and he cant execute it without risking being sued by some fat turd in california
YA, how dare they, protect things they created.....
Last edited by Simple Kind of Man; Sep 24, 2022 @ 8:51pm
Stop doing this already, it's been 4 years, we, get, it.
It's like no one has anything better to do anymore these days.
UselessFoetus Sep 25, 2022 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by Lord_Of_Death:
YA, how dare they, protect things they created.....
Now just imagine if Nintendo had patented jumping in video games.
blademan619 Sep 25, 2022 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by UselessFoetus:
Originally posted by Lord_Of_Death:
YA, how dare they, protect things they created.....
Now just imagine if Nintendo had patented jumping in video games.
Or if the first ever first person shooter game, which is Maze War according to Guinness world records, patented the fps aspect of it...imagine all the games that wouldnt have been created, doom/halo/cod/etc

Still, where there is money involved, its unlikely to be changed...2036 is the patent expiration and thats not going to change unless they can make more money off of it



Originally posted by Mushi:
Stop doing this already, it's been 4 years, we, get, it.
It's like no one has anything better to do anymore these days.
Originally posted by Ichimonji-Enma:
"Just found out today about the nemesis system patent"


The title literally states they just found out, people find out information at different times...it would be more unusual if no one ever mentioned it ever again.
For example, today I found out about Nuclear Diamond Batteries that was a concept proposed in 2016, harnessing the beta decay of radioactive waste to generate electricity. I just found out about it today, that can generate power for upwards of 28,000 years. Should people be upset that I only now just learned about it? Your logic makes no sense.

Also the patent for the Nemesis system was granted in 2021, so it hasnt been 4 years. In fact, if you go off when they filed the application, it has been 6 years and the game itself has been out for 5 years. So you're mad at them for learning new information while giving wrong information yourself. lol
What I mean by this is people do nonsense like this all the time in "whatever" instead of just walking away from it rather than trying to get a rally of people to follow in their footsteps.
Lazuul Sep 26, 2022 @ 11:54am 
The nemesis system is a proper invention, and it's creators have the right to keep it protected for their own use. There are other ways to build a "nemesis" type system, much like ways to purify water, they have the rights to their way of doing it.
You do have the right to be annoyed at any lack of use though.
Hotel Security Sep 27, 2022 @ 7:07am 
>Of all the unethical ♥♥♥♥ in this industry, this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ takes the cake, please, i beg everyone reading this, never pay for a wb product again,

What the f*** is this childish s***? A game company develops this amazing tech which allows them to do unique things with their games that no one else can...And it's now evil that they're keeping everyone else on the internet from stealing it and killing their competitive advantage? What kind of Chinese sympathizer nonsense am I reading here?

So no one's allow to profit from their own inventions? We really need to bring Chinese Economics to the gaming industry where no one owns anything they create? How entitled does someone have to be to get angry at a company for protecting something they invented?

>whether it means torrenting or outright stealing,

What a liar. OP was torrenting all his games anyway.

>Now just imagine if Nintendo had patented jumping in video games.

That's not how it works. Jumping is a concept. It's not a program. The Nemesis system is a specific set of coding that is being patented. It's not just the concept that is being patented...there are other game companies that can and do have similar systems...they just can't access the tech Monolith used to make it.

And I hope alll doomsday soothsayer in this thread know that patents don't last forever. After five to ten years, they run out and then everything in that patent becomes public knowledge. This is the downside of a patent...if you want something to be a secret forever, you don't patent it at all.
Last edited by Hotel Security; Sep 27, 2022 @ 7:08am
Manticore Sep 27, 2022 @ 7:53am 
Nemesis patent still nothing as fierce as Nintendo put copyright on almost everything related to their products..
Toruk Makto Sep 27, 2022 @ 5:53pm 
Originally posted by Mushi:
What I mean by this is people do nonsense like this all the time in "whatever" instead of just walking away from it

You should take your own advice and walk away from a dude who just found out about the patent and is frustrated by it.

All in all, WB created a unique method that provides a new experience. It sucks that other new products can't be sprawled out from it right away but they deserve the rights to have their invention protected. I just hope they would use their own patent to create more games like this.
Nïċḵ Sep 29, 2022 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by Hotel Security:
>Of all the unethical ♥♥♥♥ in this industry, this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ takes the cake, please, i beg everyone reading this, never pay for a wb product again,

>whether it means torrenting or outright stealing,

What a liar. OP was torrenting all his games anyway.
With the risk of this backfiring...

Do you realize that you're the one with the shady no-pfp lvl 10 account that does not own the game this forum is from...? while the guy you're acussing of piracy has a lvl 34 account that does...? And on top of that, owns another +700 other games and over a thousand of DLCs according to his profile, which btw, the profile open for anyone to see and check and double check, because unlike you(and this is just me assuming things), he actually doesn't seem to have anything to hide at all.


That said, I do not agree with OP. But that doesn't mean I can just dismiss his entire logic/point over a silly comment which most likely was written in the heat of the moment.

Originally posted by Lazuul:
The nemesis system is a proper invention, and it's creators have the right to keep it protected for their own use. There are other ways to build a "nemesis" type system, much like ways to purify water, they have the rights to their way of doing it.
You do have the right to be annoyed at any lack of use though.
See, Hotel? This is how you reply to someone who happens to have an opposing view. No need to attack. No need for fallacies nor being a complete ace-hole. Just sharing the perspective which the other person might be missing. An answer to a given question. Nothing less, nothing more.

Steam would certainly be better off with more Lazuul's and less... Hotel Securities? Damn, even your name sucks. Ups... Well, less of me too.
Last edited by Nïċḵ; Sep 29, 2022 @ 10:42am
mhkul Sep 29, 2022 @ 1:55pm 
Imagine if Ubisoft had patented the entire rest of this game that WB just copied from Assassin's Creed.
King Fatal Sep 29, 2022 @ 5:34pm 
all you all complaining about "what if xxxxxx patented X" are not intelligent enough to understand what coding is. FPS is a gaming method not an actual invention created by an individual, just because someone was first doesn't mean it's theirs. It's like saying "imagine if ID patented splattering enemies" uh, no. You are basically making the argument that Tolkien had no right to prevent people from illegally printing copies of LOTR. See, you can't copy code just like you can't copy someone else's stories and characters. The creators of the Nemesis system "authored the code" it's their story and they have every right to protect it.
dickolasッ Sep 29, 2022 @ 5:50pm 
if monolith continues to develop the technology further and uses it in future games then i dont think its too bad. however if 5 or 10 years go by with no new nemesis system based game then I'd be mad lol
Originally posted by Lord_Of_Death:
YA, how dare they, protect things they created.....
Oh look a fanboi
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