desolation of mordor doesnt allow other regions

[JIF]

its a shame that the DLC that allows you to get big human armies and multiple bodyguards restricts you to just one region, and resets everything after capturing the fortress instead of having you defend it over and over.

its designed for players to run through and get a score sort of, but it stops me from conquering mordor from lithlad with my human army, which is the point of baranor even going there in the first place, and the end hints that hes out to conquer more, yet it just ends?

very disappointing :[

[GDSpectra]

Given that DoM takes place after Gondorian missions (aka Talion is still active), it kind of makes sense. Sure, restrictive, but still sense-making.

[JIF]

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Given that DoM takes place after Gondorian missions (aka Talion is still active), it kind of makes sense. Sure, restrictive, but still sense-making.

right, and the blade of galadriel allows access to the entire world map, but during the original game, eltariel never showed up, even though talion was said to "hold back sauron's forces for decades".

if the blade of galadriel allowed you to go through the entirety of mordor, so should desolation of mordor (after capturing shindram.

[GDSpectra]

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right, and the blade of galadriel allows access to the entire world map, but during the original game, eltariel never showed up, even though talion was said to "hold back sauron's forces for decades".

if the blade of galadriel allowed you to go through the entirety of mordor, so should desolation of mordor (after capturing shindram.

That´s because BoG takes place during the final years, if not mere months/weeks/days of Shadow Wars, thus she gets all core-game regions (DoM is restricted to its own DLC region that wasn˙t added into core game until it came out) because except of one (which was about to fall when she came there) they were all under the Enemy˙s control, thus basically enabling her to go there and mess stuff up for the Enemy.

Baranor didn˙t have such possibility, since well, aside the timeline, he˙s also obviously mortal and thus travelling across other regions of Mordor would, as I can imagine, be very tiresome unlike with Talion (Undead) and power-buffed Eltariel (Elf, thus technically immortal) that can shrug death like nothing all the same ... and those are just in-universe reasons.

[JIF]

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right, and the blade of galadriel allows access to the entire world map, but during the original game, eltariel never showed up, even though talion was said to "hold back sauron's forces for decades".

if the blade of galadriel allowed you to go through the entirety of mordor, so should desolation of mordor (after capturing shindram.

That´s because BoG takes place during the final years, if not mere months/weeks/days of Shadow Wars, thus she gets all core-game regions (DoM is restricted to its own DLC region that wasn˙t added into core game until it came out) because except of one (which was about to fall when she came there) they were all under the Enemy˙s control, thus basically enabling her to go there and mess stuff up for the Enemy.

eltariel showing up in blade of galadriel still strongly messes up the true ending in the base game before the DLC came out.

it makes no sense, other than the desolation of mordor never being intended for anything other than a quick little DLC for speedrunning. which it kind of is. and going to lithlad as either eltariel or talion is allowed, and going there will show you that its completely void of all the characters and human mercenaries that were there, even though you can still conquer the fortress there, so it "making sense that u cant cuz other characters were there during that time" is not that convincing of a reason to make it so short, wipe all my progress upon completion, and stop me from taking over other regions as baranor imo.

i dont even care about it making sense tho, i just want to lead human armies into all of mordor and have to constantly defend my forts like in the base game, except with humans.

[GDSpectra]

How so? Because she survived Sauron´s defeat?

I mean as in "Talion was messing Mordor up while Baranor started messing Lithlad up" way; Baranor ain˙t going to other areas of Mordor before ending of DoM DLC because 1, Talion was messing it up already (you can actually hear Mercs (not Merc Leaders) talk about that occasionally), thus these regions were technically Baranor´s as well (since both him and Talion were friends aka Gondorian missions in the 1st place) and 2, entire DoM DLC is about him amassing a large enough human army as well as being skilled enough with handling wildlife (with that I mean wereworms) to be able to conquer Shindrám in the 1st place (since unlike Orcs, humans ain˙t growing in vats in this universe). It does stink that once Shindrám is conquered, the DLC ends (and, as seen in core Lithlad, which takes place at the same time as Shadow Wars, if we can believe that post-game still follows it, they do leave it for other places, thus all the absence) and yet it also opens a possibility I˙m gonna say right now.

Imagine you actually get that chance, only it˙s in a sequel of this game ... and the Orc forces you˙re defending your Fortresses from (which might as well be ones that still stand, given how Sauron´s defeat essentially destroys them completely, if we look at the movies) are led by Celebrimbor with Eltariel as his top general while you play as Baranor/Serka/Idril leading an army of humans.