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Baldwick Oct 2, 2020 @ 5:56pm
How to kill Shaka
I have a lvl 70 cursed mystic trickster who insta-kills me while cursing me, I'm lvl 21 and still in Nurnen. How the ♥♥♥♥ do I get him, Thorthog killed him for me once but he respawned, not as in come back and cheated death, but just came back immeditedly at full health. I hate him so much
Originally posted by pokerhabs:
Well, he is 50 lvls above you to begin with. Curse doesnt insta-kill unless you are way too weak.

Also, this game randomizes everything: Names, Traits, Tribe, Professions, Specialisations, long story short, in someone else's game, your ''Shaka'' doesnt exist.

He's a Cursed Mystic Trickster so I believe he's got alot of chances of being or becoming a self-res necromancer ( Pandora would know that, lol ). Keep him close, necromancers are really rare, like once or twice per playtrough rare.

Can you tell me what title he has ? Is it The Gravewalker by any chances ?


Also, it's Forthog... Guy was Mike "Forthog" Forgey, the executive producer of Monolith who died due to cancer during the development for this game. Team made him into the game as a tribute.
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pokerhabs Oct 2, 2020 @ 6:11pm 
Well, he is 50 lvls above you to begin with. Curse doesnt insta-kill unless you are way too weak.

Also, this game randomizes everything: Names, Traits, Tribe, Professions, Specialisations, long story short, in someone else's game, your ''Shaka'' doesnt exist.

He's a Cursed Mystic Trickster so I believe he's got alot of chances of being or becoming a self-res necromancer ( Pandora would know that, lol ). Keep him close, necromancers are really rare, like once or twice per playtrough rare.

Can you tell me what title he has ? Is it The Gravewalker by any chances ?


Also, it's Forthog... Guy was Mike "Forthog" Forgey, the executive producer of Monolith who died due to cancer during the development for this game. Team made him into the game as a tribute.
Baldwick Oct 2, 2020 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by pokerhabs:
Well, he is 50 lvls above you to begin with. Curse doesnt insta-kill unless you are way too weak.

Also, this game randomizes everything: Names, Traits, Tribe, Professions, Specialisations, long story short, in someone else's game, your ''Shaka'' doesnt exist.

He's a Cursed Mystic Trickster so I believe he's got alot of chances of being or becoming a self-res necromancer ( Pandora would know that, lol ). Keep him close, necromancers are really rare, like once or twice per playtrough rare.

Can you tell me what title he has ? Is it The Gravewalker by any chances ?


Also, it's Forthog... Guy was Mike "Forthog" Forgey, the executive producer of Monolith who died due to cancer during the development for this game. Team made him into the game as a tribute.
Aye, first time forthog saved me I looked it up, nice tale, glad he got immortalised. His title is the 'untouchable' namely because I kept trying to kill him and failed. I'll consider keeping him around i suppose.
FizzyElf Oct 2, 2020 @ 6:29pm 
So... what kind of trickster is it: Defender, double axe/sword, one sword, mounted, olog? are they arrow proof? (arrow proofing or being Olog is the most important piece info).

If they are NOT arrow proof/Olog please unlock shadow pull as soon as possible, it is one of the final skills in the ranged tree, now survey the terrain and find a vantage point that is high off the ground (normal roof tops on buildings will not work for this, Ideally you want a castle tower, one of the fast travel towers or one of the very tall buildings in the fortress because the AI was never designed to path find up or down from these locations) after pulling your prey to this location proceed to beat on them and shooting arrows when you have a full slow motion bar (bright blue bar next to your arrow counter) to stun him. Once you start getting tired of fighting fair or you feel like you can't keep up with the fight fire an explosive arrow at the ground near Shaka's feet or use an explosive knife/elven light and run off the tower/roof (or climb to the second floor of the fast travel towers). Go and drain an enemy for arrows (keep in mind that you must have the skill selected to do this) find another vantage point that is near by and begin shooting Shaka from afar and using the exploding arrows when your meter is full. do this until your confident you can engage in melee again or until he is dead then collect your loot and move on until he cheats death again...

hope this helps:steamhappy:, if he does have arrow proof then post a list of his abilities so the SOW community can more easily help you deal with this menace
Last edited by FizzyElf; Oct 2, 2020 @ 7:03pm
pokerhabs Oct 2, 2020 @ 6:30pm 
Yeah his title changed due to what he been through, this game does that with every orcs that survives you. Initially, was he Gravewalker ? Was he like, always enraged at you ? Face full of wrinkles ?
FizzyElf Oct 2, 2020 @ 6:34pm 
That would be awesome if he ranked up from just surviving battle after battle with the player

21-70 so as many as 49 wins and 1 loss... not bad at all
Last edited by FizzyElf; Oct 2, 2020 @ 6:35pm
pokerhabs Oct 2, 2020 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by FizzyElf:
That would be awesome if he ranked up from just surviving battle after battle with the player

21-70 so as many as 49 wins and 1 loss... not bad at all

Yeah, all in all, he should lvl up and face him when around lvl70. This game is really gear-oriented, no matter the skills or how good you are. Higher lvl gear will drop from higher lvl orcs, simple.
FizzyElf Oct 2, 2020 @ 6:44pm 
Originally posted by pokerhabs:
Originally posted by FizzyElf:
That would be awesome if he ranked up from just surviving battle after battle with the player

21-70 so as many as 49 wins and 1 loss... not bad at all

Yeah, all in all, he should lvl up and face him when around lvl70. This game is really gear-oriented, no matter the skills or how good you are. Higher lvl gear will drop from higher lvl orcs, simple.

Yep and this guy will be a satisfying kill after all the trouble hes caused, even if it was just a common ring or something, it would still be a nice trophy.
Last edited by FizzyElf; Oct 2, 2020 @ 6:44pm
pokerhabs Oct 2, 2020 @ 6:53pm 
Well, always cool to add a necromancer to Talion's army, even if necromancers are kind of useless. Only cool because these mofos are rare.
FizzyElf Oct 2, 2020 @ 7:02pm 
Again great Trophy... wait rare because they don't spawn often during the end game when you can use necromancy on your orcs? If you mean the pale skinned guys with orange eyes (They can become necromancers later) or are you talking about ones that spawn as necros.
pokerhabs Oct 2, 2020 @ 7:16pm 
Originally posted by FizzyElf:
Again great Trophy... wait rare because they don't spawn often during the end game when you can use necromancy on your orcs? If you mean the pale skinned guys with orange eyes (They can become necromancers later) or are you talking about ones that spawn as necros.

They don't spawn often, these necromancers. Like once or twice per playtrough, lots of old posts here that even never encountered one in one playtrough. Pale-skinned/glowing-eyes just means they are cursed, doesnt mean they are necromancers or to-be-necomancers.

The ones that spawns as necros are really rare. The obvious one is called The Gravewalker, should be met once per playtrough, I believe the game was scripted in that way, since he's got unique speech lines. A somewhat unique orc but with, like all the others, randomized traits, names, etc. But, The Gravewalker have a scripted ''enraged by gravewalker'' trait, no matter the RNG around him, this specific trait will always be there on him. Making him damn hard to dominate since he'll go enraged just at the sight of the player, negating the ''broken orc'' window .
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FizzyElf Oct 2, 2020 @ 9:07pm 
I remember seeing a video with the Gravewalker, they were a slayer and the way the player caught them was by bring him way down in health and waiting for the rage to wear off on a roof, then they shadow pulled him to the roof and branded him before the rage could trigger again.
Pandora Oct 2, 2020 @ 10:38pm 
Yeah for the Gravy we have to hide to let him cool down.

I think the one who got OP (if it was a necro) was either him or the Crafty, they are often in the beginning. Crafty is more ranged weapons and Gravy is more melee.
Saw the Warlock in my current game (its a Crafty alt title I think, they are looking the same etc).
Just need to meet the bulky one, forgot his Title xd.

If you have tricksters (or other guys but its less likely with them, maybe could work with assassins) try to lvl them without giving them elemental weap, they could choose the cursed AND become cursed themself at some point and eventually become necro. Just a shame when its a berserker raged by undeads-_-.Stupid Half Tongue.

Ugh really feel like a broken disk sometimes xd.

Lol Fizzy, some times ago a player was betrayed and killed by a Gravewalker edited, this one killed many guys online back then (specially with clones in throne room). I gallantly avenge him and brand the Gravy to see how the original cheater changed him (half assed work, just elemental filler, if he added higher adaptation I probably would have been killed).
After that I had quite a lot of unknow sending me requests. Now I think they just wanted to invade me to get him (well first they cant keep him, secondly they dont need to befriend me and finally he was rotting in Minas Morgul xd).

Sry for wall of text. And derailling xd.
Pandora Oct 2, 2020 @ 10:40pm 
If its a necro be careful with raged by undeads guys, they smell them from quite far away (same for terrorized by undead ones, specially YOURS.)

If its him a savage could do the trick, but you need to lvl up quite a bit sadly, a chore in Nurn.Avoid sending ologs, if you distract your Shaka its okay but if you dont.... bad end probably.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1923365571
You recognize those 2 titles with their ears xd. Warlock and Crafty.
Last edited by Pandora; Oct 2, 2020 @ 10:45pm
Baldwick Oct 3, 2020 @ 10:21am 
UPDATE: I killed his warboss so he wasn't able to defend the fist fort. Currently in the snow area and as soon as I step out he TRACKS ME. Says: "You can run all across Mordor but I will still follow." I die to him, turn passes, immeditedly kills the overlord and now he's level 72 or something ridiculous. So yeah, 2nd fort is going to be interesting.
Pandora Oct 3, 2020 @ 10:30am 
You are brave. Many restarted the game because of this kind of nemesis.
Not to mention you will see him later with some others... mymy.
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