Fix the damn Pit-AI

[Schmidti]

Orcs doing nothing and just standing arround instead of attacking, or they get caught in a stunlock. It's hard to watch... :/

[ZX119A]

I love when my guy walks up to the other captain and just taunts, refusing to attack. Or when a crossbow dude reloads 900 times and never fires a single time.

Meanwhile, when you're actually fighting one of these dudes, they'll ice skate from across the map over to you with their unblockable over and over again.

[Schmidti]

Yes, many fights are really frustrating to watch.
It's enough that theres this huge gambling over the pros and cons of an orc. But also a gambling if they survive a fight or die because of stupid AI not getting it sh!t together is really anoying... :/

[Poopieface_Tomatonose]

Especially when you have a tough legendary orc and he gets raped by a lower orc.
:/

[Schmidti]

Ha, I'm not willing to send an legendary orc into the pit's, not even an epic. Not as long as it is so random.

[The Tempted Man]

Dont forget that they place traps under their feet and then proceed to push enemy in the opposite direction.

Truly a 60 euro game.

[Democracy Officer 0311]

i've actually caught myself yelling at the screen for my npc to move. wife called me a nerd.

[[TFB] The Pink Gentleman]

The pits are a mess. If I find my self in one of these situtations I just quit out to menu, click continue story and try again. I suppose it's gaming the system but I almost had a seriously good orc almost die in a maggot fight against an orc half his level because he'd not attack. Screw that.

I suppose you can use this method if you're loosing too although I find barring two exceptions I always win. If people want to game the system and quit let them. I don't rightly give a ♥♥♥♥ if people cheat it doesn't effect me, it's a SP game.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

I noticed the match is more in your favor when:
Your slave has a dot(damage over time) weapon.
Has troops.
Has a mount.
Uses ranged weaponry.
Is a tricker, destroyer, or beast master(crowd control or summons).
Defendsive slow moving are just large hitboxes.

When you send something to the pit make sure you give it every edge you can.
If he still loses.
You just found his replacement.

[Democracy Officer 0311]

Originally posted by The Pink Gentleman:

The pits are a mess. If I find my self in one of these situtations I just quit out to menu, click continue story and try again. I suppose it's gaming the system but I almost had a seriously good orc almost die in a maggot fight against an orc half his level because he'd not attack. Screw that.

I suppose you can use this method if you're loosing too although I find barring two exceptions I always win. If people want to game the system and quit let them. I don't rightly give a ♥♥♥♥ if people cheat it doesn't effect me, it's a SP game.

Yeah that's a gaming method known as save scumming. I personally let things happen. good or bad. If everything worked perfectly. i'd get bored of this game pretty fast. It's all about obstacle. Just not constant hardcore never progress always fail obstacle. lol

[Schmidti]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

I noticed the match is more in your favor when:
Your slave has a dot(damage over time) weapon.
Has troops.
Has a mount.
Uses ranged weaponry.
Is a tricker, destroyer, or beast master(crowd control or summons).
Defendsive slow moving are just large hitboxes.

When you send something to the pit make sure you give it every edge you can.
If he still loses.
You just found his replacement.

Not at all. Not.at.all...

Had a fight (just after I started this discussion), where I send in an Orc with troops, poison dot crossbow on a caragor. The enemy was supposed to be vulnerable to caragor attacks.

You know what happened? The troops didn't do sh1t. My orc was knocked down from the caragor after riding arround in a circle for a bit. The caragor then proceeded to attack the enemy for once, after that it just roamed arround. And my orc "watched" for the most of the time, then tried to reload and guess what? Got hit from the orc, got thrown arround from the orc, wanted to attack but wait! The caragor also wanted to attack, so they were in the way for each other. And yeah...he lost.

His enemy who was only 2 levels above him, was recruited and died after two fights. It's just...I'm not even mad for loosing orcs. It just pisses me off that I have to do 3 pit fights to be able to get one specific skill and the upgrade for each fort.

Next time I see such I fight I hit recording instantly, otherwise you wont believe it.

[Keac]

The best pit fights are when there's an Olog who is weak to ranged attacks. His own gang of ranged units will stunlock him because of his size.


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[Schmidti]

Was there some word on this from the devs in one of their streams? Or is this system perfect for them because it "forces" you to buy crates for good orcs?

[The Tempted Man]

Originally posted by Keac:

The best pit fights are when there's an Olog who is weak to ranged attacks. His own gang of ranged units will stunlock him because of his size.

I can confirm this, almost died of laughter when I saw this for the 1st time.

[Ri0Rdian]

Makes you wonder what the devs/testers thought when they saw this stuff in action.

Was it like:
1. This is very good, cool!
2. Something is wrong, we need a fix, and fast!
3. Hmm, not that bad for a beginner! You should get a bonus!
4. Something is broken, but I have no idea what and I have to focus on more important things. TBD later.

[TyresTyco]

The pits are completly out of logic.. I could punch myself for not doin a screeshot but Ive seen so hilarious fights.. for example my last lvl 22 orc with rage on everything and poison weapon.. got pawned by champ fight lvl 53 normal dude without any good perks.. which should be usual right ?

But nope.. once my lvl 22 orc was in rage he destroyed the high lvl orc with some poison arrows.

I guess lvl doesnt matter.. its plain and simple rng. Not even the best perks can defeat a weak orc if the script says damn you.