Training orcs beginner question.

[SILENTBORDERS]

Can someone please explain to me how all the training orders work?

For example I am aware that certain traits will be removed for others when I am purchasing them but things like gangs? It seems I have give my captains, an archer gang, a bezerker gang, a hunter gang? Does it over wrote and you can only have one? What is the maximum amount of training orders you can stack ?

[ceepee]

Only one gang at the time and yes you 'overwrite' the old one so the old one is gone.
Only one Epic trait at a time because a new one replaces the old one.
Only one fiery/poison/curse weapon.
Etc...

The descriptions given in the menus are pretty good btw.

Always try to match weapons with certain traits. For example enraged by fire + Fire weapon. Enraged by poison + poison weapon.

[Craig [K.A.O.S.]]

You can only have two epic traits (the ones on the bottom). There used to be a way to get three, but I think they removed it in the big update. You can still find some in online play that have 3 and 4 epic traits.

[SILENTBORDERS]

Originally posted by ceepee:

Only one gang at the time and yes you 'overwrite' the old one so the old one is gone.
Only one Epic trait at a time because a new one replaces the old one.
Only one fiery/poison/curse weapon.
Etc...

The descriptions given in the menus are pretty good btw.

Always try to match weapons with certain traits. For example enraged by fire + Fire weapon. Enraged by poison + poison weapon.

Thanks for the help. Why would that be a good combo? If they're enraged by fire, and use a fire weapon they're not hitting themselves?

[SILENTBORDERS]

Originally posted by 5009craig:

You can only have two epic traits (the ones on the bottom). There used to be a way to get three, but I think they removed it in the big update. You can still find some in online play that have 3 and 4 epic traits.

What online play is good to grind and have fun without risking losing all your orcs etc?

[Ro-Z]

I don't know about poison, thats not how it works. If an uruk is enraged by something when he gets hit by that attack, he becomes enraged. This DOES work for Fire, which spreads, but not for Poison, which only spreads if you use a certain ability on barrels before poisoning them passively. For example, if a captain is a close quarters fighter, becomes enraged by fire, and has a fire weapon, he strikes his opponant, who is lit aflame. 80% of the time, the enemy will run forward in fear if he is on fire, 20% he turns around and starts running. Ofcourse sometimes they just don't run at all. Basically, the chance is, he runs right into the guy who just lit him on fire. Lighting him on fire. Your captain is now enraged, immune to his weaknesses, and attacks everything he sees, enemies at priority, as fast as he can, over and over.

P.S. the only difference between green flame and red flame is green is Bael fire and that if they are afraid specifically of Bael fire and they have been lit with green flame they will become afraid instead. Baelfire is not naturally acquireable and may require special character equipment to even access, let alone impossible for uruk to get. I think it still counts for 'enraged by burning' tho

[ceepee]

Originally posted by Ro-Z:

I don't know about poison, thats not how it works.

You're right

[Kodiak412]

Balefire is when an Orc is poisoned and on fire at the same time. This happens if you have different weapons and cloths that crit both. For example armor that has a 25% for fire with a critical hit and a bow that poisons with a head shot. This is a chance for both and you get balefire.

[Craig [K.A.O.S.]]

Originally posted by silentborders:

Originally posted by 5009craig:

You can only have two epic traits (the ones on the bottom). There used to be a way to get three, but I think they removed it in the big update. You can still find some in online play that have 3 and 4 epic traits.

What online play is good to grind and have fun without risking losing all your orcs etc?

Online Vendettas. Take your time. Go into the Vendetta and if the challenge is to do something like kill 10 butchers or whatever, don't do it. Instead, grab a caragor and start walking around the other player's fortress in elf vision mode. You can go all over the area, and the game will tell you when you went too far. You can usually find 5-7 captains hanging out. Recruit the ones you want, and then do the challenge to face the Vendetta target. If they are not arrow proof, shadow pull them up to a high point to fight 1v1.

For online siege you can go into the siege without your followers and recruit any of the first four warchiefs and their bodyguards easily (tell then to retreat), then you retreat out of the area and you lose the mission, but keep your recruits. This will keep your ranking low, but it is a way to get good orcs without losing your guys. Another option is to go alone, and recruit the first three orcs, have them stay with you to fight, and keep recruiting as you go to raise an army from scratch and take the whole fortress. you will get a lot of orcs, and other loot.

[Simply_Pwned_Gaming]

Hell yes I find a fort with kick a** Orcs n I may take 25 min to get everyone I want,I brand captains n leave them in first circle . Then I go hunting for the ones I want that are not arrow proof shadow pull for 1v1 then after branding n what not start the fort fight n clear the first circle n I'm off to take the fort

[Simply_Pwned_Gaming]

So if I beat your fort In 30 min its on purpose😁 in online ranked siege

[Craig [K.A.O.S.]]

Originally posted by william2652001:

So if I beat your fort In 30 min its on purpose😁 in online ranked siege

I'm enjoying the update, especially the ability to build clone armies. I'm currently on the hunt for 10 arrow-proof snipers so my Overlords can each have 2 as bodyguards. I also plan to have at least two BoG spider Ologs in each fortress. HeHeHe (evil laugh).

[Simply_Pwned_Gaming]

oh man when u do that let me know im sure i will fall to your archers but hehe so much fun

[SILENTBORDERS]

Originally posted by 5009craig:

Originally posted by william2652001:

So if I beat your fort In 30 min its on purpose😁 in online ranked siege

I'm enjoying the update, especially the ability to build clone armies. I'm currently on the hunt for 10 arrow-proof snipers so my Overlords can each have 2 as bodyguards. I also plan to have at least two BoG spider Ologs in each fortress. HeHeHe (evil laugh).

What does clone army mean?, Also can you know if people are attacking your fort and you can see stats how good your guys defend from other players?

[SILENTBORDERS]

Originally posted by 5009craig:

Originally posted by silentborders:

What online play is good to grind and have fun without risking losing all your orcs etc?

Online Vendettas. Take your time. Go into the Vendetta and if the challenge is to do something like kill 10 butchers or whatever, don't do it. Instead, grab a caragor and start walking around the other player's fortress in elf vision mode. You can go all over the area, and the game will tell you when you went too far. You can usually find 5-7 captains hanging out. Recruit the ones you want, and then do the challenge to face the Vendetta target. If they are not arrow proof, shadow pull them up to a high point to fight 1v1.

For online siege you can go into the siege without your followers and recruit any of the first four warchiefs and their bodyguards easily (tell then to retreat), then you retreat out of the area and you lose the mission, but keep your recruits. This will keep your ranking low, but it is a way to get good orcs without losing your guys. Another option is to go alone, and recruit the first three orcs, have them stay with you to fight, and keep recruiting as you go to raise an army from scratch and take the whole fortress. you will get a lot of orcs, and other loot.

Thanks for the great advice

Do you concentrate on having just one good fort or do you try and build them all? I would prefer just concentrating on one tbh. Also in army screen is there anything I should I telling all my captains and warchief and overlord to be doing constantly when I click command? I don't infiltrate, or kill , or tell them to go pits. I only level them with scrolls 5 levels. What should I be doing?

[Craig [K.A.O.S.]]

Focus more on recruiting good orcs, rather than working with weak ones through training orders. Training orders will make a good one better, but can't really make a weak orc good.