Orc titles and necromancer trait

[A man]

I have seen somewhere that certain orc titles cannot gain the necromancer trait even with the veins, skin, curse weapon... I know that orcs with the title accursed cannot gain necromancer and gravewalker always has it. I have been working on 3 different orcs with names as follows: Maku of the hand, Tarz the dead, and Borgu fear Lord. I have been shaming, dominating, and training rinse and repeat for weeks and they aren't picking up necromancer...Do these titles block necromancer trait?

[Ritter Salbei]

Originally posted by A Man:

I have seen somewhere that certain orc titles cannot gain the necromancer trait even with the veins, skin, curse weapon... I know that orcs with the title accursed cannot gain necromancer and gravewalker always has it. I have been working on 3 different orcs with names as follows: Maku of the hand, Tarz the dead, and Borgu fear Lord. I have been shaming, dominating, and training rinse and repeat for weeks and they aren't picking up necromancer...Do these titles block necromancer trait?

It’s completely random if a character will have the necromancer trait or not. It’s not restricted to one tribe or even certain captains like the Gravewalker captain. Sometimes he will have the trait and other times he won’t. Other times you’ll find the necromancy trait on captains of pure random. I literally had a olog necromancer namned Ar-Janek Thunder Bowels show up in my game.

Like many small things, the less defined Nemesis System is one of the many dissapointments of this game. And I don’t believe Monolith has the interest or even the power to hear fans out on ideas to improve the game. I have one major idea that can remove the frustration of removing weaknesses on your captains and actually make you think about who your putting in charge of your Forts.

But I doubt the devs will listen.

[A man]

I think that the titles that make them already have necro prerequisite appearances can't be necromancers...I noticed a pattern that all orcs with regular titles can gain necromancer easy while orcs with titles such as of the dead, the tainted, fear Lord, and of the pit spawn with necro appearance but never gain the trait.

[Ritter Salbei]

Originally posted by A Man:

I think that the titles that make them already have necro prerequisite appearances can't be necromancers...I noticed a pattern that all orcs with regular titles can gain necromancer easy while orcs with titles such as of the dead, the tainted, fear Lord, and of the pit spawn with necro appearance but never gain the trait.

That is also true.

[Hex]

Necromancer is a super rare trait to begin with. My first game I only had two appear that had been recruitable. My second game had three appear.

[A man]

i just dominate any orc with the veins and curse weapon and level/shame them as many times as it takes. By doing this i have around 15 mental necromancers

[Ritter Salbei]

Originally posted by A Man:

i just dominate any orc with the veins and curse weapon and level/shame them as many times as it takes. By doing this i have around 15 mental necromancers

Mental? So basically like every other youtuber who plays this game... I assume you have a army of insane and abused orcs? I need to make a charity case on this.

[A man]

Nah I prefer my orcs sane...it's just my necros and traitors that are insane

[Ritter Salbei]

Originally posted by A Man:

Nah I prefer my orcs sane...it's just my necros and traitors that are insane

I mean if you were cursed by a dark lord or a wraith.... I'd proably be insane too.

[A man]

Another question related to necromancers. If I let a necromancer tricksters clone kill me can the clone become a necromancer? I have done this once and the clone got fire weapons which is from what I have heard is a no go for necro. Anyone else tested?

[Galath]

Originally posted by A Man:

Another question related to necromancers. If I let a necromancer tricksters clone kill me can the clone become a necromancer? I have done this once and the clone got fire weapons which is from what I have heard is a no go for necro. Anyone else tested?

It would be vary rare as scars(the cursed appearence) dont carry over but its possible

[Galath]

Originally posted by wolfborn101:

Like many small things, the less defined Nemesis System is one of the many dissapointments of this game. And I don’t believe Monolith has the interest or even the power to hear fans out on ideas to improve the game. I have one major idea that can remove the frustration of removing weaknesses on your captains and actually make you think about who your putting in charge of your Forts.

But I doubt the devs will listen.

I don't know what you mean by "less defined", only cursed orcs can gain the trait. That makes total sense and is a defined part of the system. its not like any old captain can get it.

[Galath]

Originally posted by A Man:

I have seen somewhere that certain orc titles cannot gain the necromancer trait even with the veins, skin, curse weapon... I know that orcs with the title accursed cannot gain necromancer and gravewalker always has it. I have been working on 3 different orcs with names as follows: Maku of the hand, Tarz the dead, and Borgu fear Lord. I have been shaming, dominating, and training rinse and repeat for weeks and they aren't picking up necromancer...Do these titles block necromancer trait?

all that is required for a necromancer is a cursed scar, nothing else. certian titles are garunteed to have it, the three coming to mind are Gravewalker, Warlock, and the Crafty. but other than those few as long as they are cursed with the scar they can have it. Also the thing about the accursed can not be true as Im pretty sure I have an accursed with the necro trait.

[A man]

Originally posted by RichytheKing13:

Originally posted by A Man:

Another question related to necromancers. If I let a necromancer tricksters clone kill me can the clone become a necromancer? I have done this once and the clone got fire weapons which is from what I have heard is a no go for necro. Anyone else tested?

It would be vary rare as scars(the cursed appearence) dont carry over but its possible

Actually the cursed appearance DOES infact carry over. Its just wierd because the clones have the cursed appearance but dont spawn with cursed weapons like all potential necromancers.

Top is who i used to make clones and below are his clones.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510784219

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510814758

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510814840

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510814938

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510814993

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510815031

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1510815089

[Ritter Salbei]

Originally posted by RichytheKing13:

Originally posted by wolfborn101:

Like many small things, the less defined Nemesis System is one of the many dissapointments of this game. And I don’t believe Monolith has the interest or even the power to hear fans out on ideas to improve the game. I have one major idea that can remove the frustration of removing weaknesses on your captains and actually make you think about who your putting in charge of your Forts.

But I doubt the devs will listen.

I don't know what you mean by "less defined", only cursed orcs can gain the trait. That makes total sense and is a defined part of the system. its not like any old captain can get it.

Well yes.... only cursed captains can become a captain. But if that was the case.... wouldn't that in term allow you to give your cursed captains that cursed scar very easily with the training orders? No? Then why do some of your captains get the cursed skin after gaining a cursed weapon? And sometimes they don't? There is no defined way to find nercomancer capatins or even train one.

So thats what I mean by less defined. Especially as they advertized to us that necromancers would be their own class, but that didn't happen now did it?

[Ominous187]

Originally posted by wolfborn101:

Originally posted by A Man:

I have seen somewhere that certain orc titles cannot gain the necromancer trait even with the veins, skin, curse weapon... I know that orcs with the title accursed cannot gain necromancer and gravewalker always has it. I have been working on 3 different orcs with names as follows: Maku of the hand, Tarz the dead, and Borgu fear Lord. I have been shaming, dominating, and training rinse and repeat for weeks and they aren't picking up necromancer...Do these titles block necromancer trait?

It’s completely random if a character will have the necromancer trait or not. It’s not restricted to one tribe or even certain captains like the Gravewalker captain. Sometimes he will have the trait and other times he won’t. Other times you’ll find the necromancy trait on captains of pure random. I literally had a olog necromancer namned Ar-Janek Thunder Bowels show up in my game.

Like many small things, the less defined Nemesis System is one of the many dissapointments of this game. And I don’t believe Monolith has the interest or even the power to hear fans out on ideas to improve the game. I have one major idea that can remove the frustration of removing weaknesses on your captains and actually make you think about who your putting in charge of your Forts.

But I doubt the devs will listen.

i just askeda question not long ago about domming in online vendetta.. w/e i have tried it always said use as spy or the option to recruit just isnt there and this dude had the necro perk lucly it still worked and i got him =) in 10 secs he rasied like 20 dudes was awesome.

i came sooo close to deleting this game over it also.. he has maybe like a t1t hair of life left to him and every time i would try to dom him it would select something else then i would stop move and it selects the same fking orc that i own over and over but i was able 2 get him last sec...but man i hate this fking game sometimes when it does dumb sht like that