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Online Pit Fights rigged in the enemy players favour?
I just lost all my legendary level 60 orcs to a bunch of rando level 55 epic and lower orcs. How is this possible when for the longest time these guys have saved my skin killing orcs of the same level and even ones HIGHER than the 60 cap.

It's almost like it wants me to consider buying boxes to make my orks stronger via pay 2 win. I would bring it down to just really bad luck but then I started noticing damage outputs. My guys would tickle them whilst their orcs would hit my guy once and take a quarter of his health away. Then there was the time I was watching my savage against another. They both did the EXACT same move as each other at the exact same time yet for some reason. My Orc was the one to fall down.

I was really looking forward to this update but it seems it's just a way to try to convince you to buy chests...
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Victory Dec 5, 2017 @ 8:26am 
It is a good place to turn your useless Orc into training loot boxes.
Last edited by Victory; Dec 5, 2017 @ 8:26am
I'll copy/paste what I put on an earlier threat about Online Pit Fights...


Don't even bother TRYING Online Pit Fights - Orc Combat is BROKEN in Pit Fights.

Ologs can just pull off their grab-hit special moves and SPAM THEM until an enemy Captain meets the execution-hp threshold, and Uruks can just spam THEIRS twice as fast.



Ultimately Online Pit Fights isn't even a test of skill or has ANYTHING to do with a Captain's Traits or Abilities....

....It's a test of f*cking luck to see if your Captain can spam-special attack for long enough to kill their opponent.


Just ALT-F4 out of the game when your Captain's about to die to b*llshit combat mechanics, your streak won't go and your Overlord will still be alive because there's no failsafe code to say you lose if you alt-f4 out of the game.

I'll approve of how the Nemesis System is done but the Nemesis Combat is BROKEN and TERRIBLE in Pit Fights.
Last edited by The Average Ivy Enjoyer; Dec 5, 2017 @ 8:28am
Tale Dec 5, 2017 @ 8:30am 
I've seen one guy suspect that it's the new pit fight rules not working. The increased damage is only applied to the enemy.
^ Even then the Special-Attack needs cooldowns for the AI, they can spam it at least FIVE times and then kill their enemy instantly.

It's not even up to a Captain's Traits or Skills that factor if they win. - Just stupid RNG, not even the Nemesis System's Good RNG.
Surrika Tunnah Dec 5, 2017 @ 8:32am 
Originally posted by Tale:
I've seen one guy suspect that it's the new pit fight rules not working. The increased damage is only applied to the enemy.

In other words. Rigging it in pay 2 win favour so your guys can have a chance against them.
Kinda hard to rig a game in Pay-2-Win when all you can actually "buy" is a Gold Currency that you can get in-game through Daily Challenges in large quantities.

Also to how you can get Lootboxes of the game's In-game currency kinda makes the method of rigging it Pay-2-Win very.... Redundant.


Just Monolith really needs to do some restrictive bugfixing for the AI's combat capacity, The earlier bugs can be excused, it's one of their first games of this type, but something like this AI being so jagged and random even for a randomiser-generator game is bad.
Last edited by The Average Ivy Enjoyer; Dec 5, 2017 @ 8:35am
i'm more concerned with why you thought it was a good idea to throw your best orcs into a pit fight where they have a good chance to die. online pit fighting has been working wonders for me, turning every ~10th random common orc in my garrison into a legendary is a pretty good deal in my book.
ProfessorCookie Dec 5, 2017 @ 8:38am 
Got more than 5 wins in a row in all regions except Cirith (Got no good overlord there, so haven't bothered)

Haven't lost once yet.
a sea of arrow /level upgrades not at all worth it sucks had hopes this would make it fun dispactching garrison orcs but no they give us level increases wtf man this game keeps letting us down its sad
Originally posted by Ratak Warmonger:
Originally posted by ProcrastinatorLuke:
i'm more concerned with why you thought it was a good idea to throw your best orcs into a pit fight where they have a good chance to die.


It's not even that.

It's the fact the Nemesis System's Combat AI is "Too Random" for a game that litterally RELIES on randomisation - It's a liability, it's redundant and it's jagged and broken as heck.


Ologs can SPAM their Grab-Attack at least FIVE TIMES an then they suddenly kill their opponents.

Uruks can spam THEIRS twice as fast, with no seconds between their Special Attacks that can take AT LEAST 20% HP per Special.


If you're getting the good side and actually have a broken AI that can spam this, good for you, but if you don't, then forget actually winning Online Pit Fights with a normal win-rate.

well what do you want to hear? you made a post complaining about the fight pits and i gave you a good way to use it. but from all your replies to posts here it just seems like you wanted to circlejerk about how pay to win this game is.
opened 13 max level boxes to get 4 outa five level increases
ProfessorCookie Dec 5, 2017 @ 8:51am 
"Put my guy in pitfight and lost! IT'S NOT FAIR EVEN THO IT SAYS FIGHT TO THE DEATH!"
K9 Dec 5, 2017 @ 9:18am 
online pit fight is BS,everyone has berserker overlord and my slayer or assasin orcs have no chance
They'll have to refine the AI, it's excusable for the game's normal combat AI, but with competative, risk/reward where a Captain's Traits or Skills are redundant due to Special Attacks that the AI can Spam every second.

and a Special Attack takes at least 20% of their HP per Special Attack just makes it a game of RNG... not even a good RNG either.
larsingem Dec 5, 2017 @ 10:10am 
Orcs I have next to no faith in do great in the fights. Others with immunities agains everything under the sun barely get through a fight. Thats how it usually is. AI is having most of the orcs stand around cheering, doing nothing, spam flashbangs against enemies obviously immune to it... Only good thing is that I make room in my army right quick:)
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Date Posted: Dec 5, 2017 @ 8:22am
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