Bad game design?

[larsingem]

So I reached level 60. Im nearing the final stretch of the fort assaults and I keep seeing the same thing. It seems like every time there is a legendary in the assault, you will have a very hard time to recruit him. First of all they all seem to be cowards.
More than any other orc they will insist on fleeing. They are hardly damaged and are kicking my butt, then they turn around and flee. That is if you ever find them before they have already fled.. If you do catch them and they are a level or more higher than you, you would think you should shame them. If you do, they disappear from the game. If they manage to flee, they disappear from the game.
When you are level 60 and the orcs get to level 61, that is horrible game design in a game where recruiting orcs are the main drive in the game.

[Xear]

i agree that 65 lvl cap for orcs sucks i dont wanna have to put the shame mark on some cool looking olog with flamethrower, also the cheated death for uruks is completly broken for me since i used the marketplace for the very first time, my guess is it broke something when it replaced a uruk that should have cheated death and now none of my orcs are rescurrecting i have 2-4 dead people on all my armyscreens on every single map and on minas morgul some random orcs took over the nazgul spots and i cant interract with them anyhow one of them died because he came to avenge his bodyguar and now hes dead since lvl 44 and im 60 now and he still lies dead upthere as a warchief wtf is broken in this game?

[Craig [K.A.O.S.]]

I think legendaries in the game are purposely made difficult to recruit (many have iron will). Get them from spoils of war chests. Strong epics can be given the training order to promote to legendary.

[larsingem]

Originally posted by S1lv3r:

i agree that 65 lvl cap for orcs sucks i dont wanna have to put the shame mark on some cool looking olog with flamethrower, also the cheated death for uruks is completly broken for me since i used the marketplace for the very first time, my guess is it broke something when it replaced a uruk that should have cheated death and now none of my orcs are rescurrecting i have 2-4 dead people on all my armyscreens on every single map and on minas morgul some random orcs took over the nazgul spots and i cant interract with them anyhow one of them died because he came to avenge his bodyguar and now hes dead since lvl 44 and im 60 now and he still lies dead upthere as a warchief wtf is broken in this game?

ALOT is broken. I also have four dead orcs on my army screen in Seregoth that have been lying there since mid-game. Im currently on level 10 fort assault.
I even tried restarting and reinnstalling the entire game when I notized this in my first attempt of a playthrough. obviously the same thing keeps happening and I dont see any update fixing the problem or even adressing it.
I tried to force orcs into the spots from market and from winning over warchiefs that had taken the fort. They just overlapped and deleted my orcs on the ground.


Having to shame orcs and possibly removing what made them useful in the first place is annoying but I can live with that. My main issue is when there is no way for you to get an orc.
When you want to recruit an orc from a fort assault you should ALWAYS have a chance to do so with a little bit of work. Its ok if they have iron will or are unbreakable, if thats not the case, it should not be an issue.

[larsingem]

Originally posted by 5009craig:

I think legendaries in the game are purposely made difficult to recruit (many have iron will). Get them from spoils of war chests. Strong epics can be given the training order to promote to legendary.

Yes, you can get legendaries from chests and use training orders to get them aswell but I dont want to rely on that entirely. If I see an orc I think looks cool and maybe have my own little adventure fighting him, I should be able to recruit him as long as he does not have "iron will" or "unbreakable" trait. At least if I shame him first. For the most part I dont seem to find as cool warchiefs in chests anyway. Bad luck maybe, I dont know.

[RuleofTwo]

Whenever I have to shame a legendary orc during the endless shadow wars which is every single time as they are level 65, they disappear and aren't on the map. So endless shadow wars is useless. Either fix this bug or let us increase our level. I branded a really strong orc yesterday and hes just completely gone.

[larsingem]

Originally posted by Furi0sa:

Whenever I have to shame a legendary orc during the endless shadow wars which is every single time as they are level 65, they disappear and aren't on the map. So endless shadow wars is useless. Either fix this bug or let us increase our level. I branded a really strong orc yesterday and hes just completely gone.

Thats the thing, I dont think its a bug. I think its very much made so on purpose. It has been made very difficult to recruit any legemdary warchiefs without lootboxes and any warchief on the ground risk being randomly swapped out plus a group of them will betray you daily. Also the warchiefs in the castle risk betraying you if you should happen to kill one of their bloodbrothers.

The game itself is great and I dont really mind being betrayed now and then but the deleting of orcs for no reason without them ever coming back, both your own and the wild ones.. That is purely a scam.

[larsingem]

Im prettu sure with all the microtransaction scandal talk, minor issues like disappearing orcs and never disappearing dead orcs will NEVER be fixed. Remember i said it first:)

[SIGFRIED]

65 orcs is stupid because you can't dominate them...
Soo make talion level 65,maybe in next update dlc

[larsingem]

You can dominate them if you shame them, usually. Only not in sieges. Im expecting there to be a paid dlc coming with level cap being raised tho. Seems like they are going for cheap tacked-on changes in their dlc`s for this game anyways so that should fit in there snuggly:)