Is Talion one of the most powerful persons in Lord of Ring history?

[Gut]

I reviewed the movie and guess that Talion can easily crash the whole army of Gandalf and Gondor, especially after equipping the new ring.

[hotmatrixx]

Originally posted by Gut:

I reviewed the movie and guess that Talion can easily crash the whole army of Gandalf and Gondor, especially after equipping the new ring.

Originally posted by Gut:

I reviewed the movie and guess that Talion can easily crash the whole army of Gandalf and Gondor, especially after equipping the new ring.

Oh no I just realised it's another "gut". I've met 'gut's before and they were all trolls, too.

Talion isn't particularly strong. his power comes from the Ring. That combined with his Ranger skills with bow, sword, stealth and tactics made him strong - but without the ring, he would be just another statistic.

[Greyedsteel]

Originally posted by Gut:

I reviewed the movie and guess that Talion can easily crash the whole army of Gandalf and Gondor, especially after equipping the new ring.

No. Tom bombadil, Eru Illuvitar (spelling is hard), morgoth, gandalf sauron, smaug, Durin's bane, the sons of Feanor, Bilbo Baggins, Bill the pony, take your pick

[Greyedsteel]

Originally posted by Salvation_crucifix:

Originally posted by liljay273:

No not by a long shot. Him and his Army could beat the fellowship tho. Gandalf would probably stop him depending on how much power he could be allowed to use

For all we know, if Gandalf is as powerful as Saruman and Marwen, he could easily eject Celebrimbor from Talion's body.

Though a quick unaware arrow to the head would end Gandalf right then and there.

Rest of the Fellowship? Heck yeah!

Presuming that Celebrimbor can see persons using the One Ring using his Wraith vision though, he could also easily take out Frodo.

Nah I'd put Legolas ahead of talion/cel in terms of archery and gandalf batted his arrow aside like it was nothing

[Greyedsteel]

Originally posted by Darkmuninn:

Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:

Good thing the shadow series is more fan fiction then anything else.

actually, it's canon, approved by Middle Earth Enterprises themselves.

No they confirmed it was not canon

[Greyedsteel]

Originally posted by hotmatrixx:

Originally posted by romanian ♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Bro Gandalf didint beat ♥♥♥♥, he just destroyed the bridge.

And Talion didint beat the balrog as well , the forest goddes helped him trapping it in ice.

I d say Balrog W

What do you think Gandalf did when he fell in the pit with the Balrog; run and hide?
He 'died' and was reborn 'the white' after that fight. He basically maxxed his XP and levelled up to High Chancellor of the Council. Do you think he did that by running away and hiding?

In the books and their supplementaries, There was a lake at the bottom of the chasm that put the Balrog out and it became 'a thing of slime'. Gandalf hunted it for days, and tossed it off a mountain, killing it - then dies from his own injuries.

Talion did beat the Balrog. Yes, like Gandalf, he had Magic on his side; he also used basically the same tactic; toss the thing in water.

Tor goroth isn't dead just frozen. And he had to get the assist of a major Godess each time he fought it

[Greyedsteel]

Originally posted by Derrame:

Originally posted by Director:

Sauron is the strongest of the Maiar. The only two that rival him of his 'race' are Gandalf and Saruman. To say that they are more of a threat to Talion than Sauron is completely contradictory. Talion wouldn't beat any of the three.

No, Sauron is a weak Maiar , other Maiar are way more powerful than him.

He is more powerful than Gandalf as white and Saruman.
Gandalf and Saruman are Istari, a hierarchy below Maiar.

Gandalf and sauroman are maiar Istari is an order of Maiar, he didn't personally throw hands with sauron because eru illuvitar specifically told him not to.

[Greyedsteel]

Originally posted by Fakey:

Originally posted by Affi:

And where is aragorn!!??!

Each Shadow Stages in the Shadow War is worth a decade from what Monolith said in the stream and there were a couple so I would say that Aragorn didn’t exist much less a fetus until the epilogue

Aragon is 80 by the time of the movies. He is one of the Dunedine (I give up) rangers