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edmek55555 2017 年 10 月 6 日 上午 12:36
Why MTs are a great thing
A lot of people on the forums love to whine about MTs being in the game. However 99% of those people can sit around all day and play shadow of war nonstop to get everything they want and they dont think its fair that anyone else can do this.

Did you ever consider some people have jobs? Some people have children and adult responsibilities? Not everyone can play games 15 hours a day. I am glad monolith gave the time deprived an option to make playing the game enjoyable to them even with limited time. I am even gonna buy some lootboxes simply out of respect for that decision.

People need to stop thinking their may of living is the only way. You dont have to touch microtransactions and they dont impact the game in any way. Being mad that the game is now more accessible to more people is ridiculous. People who complain about this are the exact stereotype of a moms basement gamer
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cowbell 2017 年 10 月 6 日 下午 3:49 
I own the game, so I am staying. You keep yelling at the clouds.
最后由 cowbell 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 6 日 下午 3:49
Overlord1993 2017 年 10 月 6 日 下午 3:57 
引用自 cowbell
I own the game, so I am staying. You keep yelling at the clouds.
And you keep taking WB's ♥♥♥♥ in your ass. ;)
stevo 2017 年 10 月 6 日 下午 4:02 
Not everyone has 80 hours to watch the entire box set of Dexter, but I would call watching a 30 minute plot digest instead an incredibly stupid replacement. It's fine saying people can pay to save time, and "enjoy" the game, but the notion that how the whole game is built proper isn't affected by this is naive and worrying.

This isn't an MMO. Singe player games are an experience, an artform. The fact this new fad has crept into single player games is a cancer to the art form, and if you can't see that, then you are the problem. Even with things like cosmetics... just let it die, before standard gaming turns into the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Google Play Store.
最后由 stevo 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 6 日 下午 4:03
Sayuri 2017 年 10 月 6 日 下午 4:04 
引用自 edmek55555
A lot of people on the forums love to whine about MTs being in the game. However 99% of those people can sit around all day and play shadow of war nonstop to get everything they want and they dont think its fair that anyone else can do this.

Did you ever consider some people have jobs? Some people have children and adult responsibilities? Not everyone can play games 15 hours a day. I am glad monolith gave the time deprived an option to make playing the game enjoyable to them even with limited time. I am even gonna buy some lootboxes simply out of respect for that decision.
Saying "MTs are a good optional thing for people who don't have alot of time to play" is like saying "Having to pay extra to make a car run faster than 10 mph is a good thing for people who don't have all day to drive to the store" : The car should have a good engine in the first place, without having to pay extra. And games should have built-in difficulty settings and optionally cheats without requiring the customer to pay extra for them.


You know how in the good old days games managed to handle such problems?
By providing cheat codes or difficulty settings. Without charging extra money, without MTs or DLCs.
The whole "MTs are good, If you want to make the game easier, you have the option to buy things on the market"-thing is highly absurd considering not a long time ago it was standard to provide these things (difficulty switches, gameplay customization, cheat codes) as built-in features.

In Starcraft for example, people were free to use cheats to make the game easier for them. No need to pay 50 cents every time i want to make the game easier for me by revealing the map or by giving myself some extra ressources.

In Top Gun : Fire At Will for MS-DOS i was able to give my aircraft unlimited ammo or make enemies easier via the game options menu. Did i have to pay for these options? No.

The original japanese release of MegaMan 2 had only one difficulty, for the USA version they added an easier difficulty setting so we were able to choose between "normal" and "hard" (the original japanese difficulty). Did we have to pay extra money every time we want to play the normal mode? No.

How come game developers 5~20 years ago managed to implement difficulty setttings, custom game settings and cheat codes without requiring the player to pay every time they want to make the game easier or customize the games difficulty? Gosh, i can not think how they could have possibly done this! That's madness, impossible! They must've used now-long forgotten ancient magic to implement difficulty settings for free!

Nowadays AAA-publishers are so greedy and profit-focussed that they don't care about respect for their customers and expect you to PAY for these kinds of things that should be part of the standard game package.
最后由 Sayuri 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 6 日 下午 4:17
Inherited 2017 年 10 月 6 日 下午 4:17 
Is that my problem you can't play "15 hours" a day?

MT in a SP game is hilarious, and the game itself is 60$ too. Even these different tiers, base, silver and gold are stupid. Why aren't these tribes coming with the base game? Nah gotta pay more and get silver edition if you want those.

Really 100$ for a game? And it has MT too?
最后由 Inherited 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 6 日 下午 4:18
Idontcareanyway 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:11 
The more comments I read, the more dumbfounded I am by OPs and other people stupidity.

I commute to work half an hour (1 hour lost everyday), I work 10 hours a day, I work 3 out of 4 saturdays except for winter (I am civil engineer, winters are slower for us due to atmospheric conditions not always allowing us to work with concrete or to weld under certain temperature/snow/rain), I go to gym 3 times a week, I hang out with my friends regularly during weekends, I live on my own, not "with parents", I love playing video games - yet I am one of the strongest opposition to MTs in this forum.

And you know why is that OP? Because I am not stupid enough to believe that they are doing it "for my own good and enjoyment". I am also not stupid enough to not understand how MTs operate based on other games that use them. If they put them in then they sure as hell know that enough people will find pacing of the game (or endgame in SoW situation) to be terrible, gameplay to be tedious and grindy to warrant cost of implementing them being paid by them.

I do complain about lack of free time. Its sometimes really tempting to just call in sick to play some new game, but I don't do that, and you know why? Because I understand that if there are no reason for devs/publishers to f.uck with pacing and gameplay just to sell more shi.tty lootboxes then game will be enjoyable and rewarding even if I'll be able to only play it for few hours in a week.

I have close to 150 hours in Witcher 3, I've beatean Dark Souls 3 two times in a row - and in neither of those games I felt like any part was grinding, or like any part was just artificially elongated - which happens time and time again with games with MTs in them.

Coincedently those two games also prove the "cost of development" and "inflation" arguments to be bulls.hit, as both of those games are high quality big budget games without MTs that got high profits just on games own merits.

OP - you are an idiot.
最后由 Idontcareanyway 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:17
edmek55555 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:23 
引用自 Idontcareanyway
The more comments I read, the more dumbfounded I am by OPs and other people stupidity.

I commute to work half an hour (1 hour lost everyday), I work 10 hours a day, I work 3 out of 4 saturdays except for winter (I am civil engineer, winters are slower for us due to atmospheric conditions not always allowing us to work with concrete or to weld under certain temperature/snow/rain), I go to gym 3 times a week, I hang out with my friends regularly during weekends, I live on my own, not "with parents", I love playing video games - yet I am one of the strongest opposition to MTs in this forum.

And you know why is that OP? Because I am not stupid enough to believe that they are doing it "for my own good and enjoyment". I am also not stupid enough to not understand how MTs operate based on other games that use them. If they put them in then they sure as hell know that enough people will find pacing of the game (or endgame in SoW situation) to be terrible, gameplay to be tedious and grindy to warrant cost of implementing them being paid by them.

I do complain about lack of free time. Its sometimes really tempting to just call in sick to play some new game, but I don't do that, and you know why? Because I understand that if there are no reason for devs/publishers to f.uck with pacing and gameplay just to sell more shi.tty lootboxes then game will be enjoyable and rewarding even if I'll be able to only play it for few hours in a week.

I have close to 150 hours in Witcher 3, I've beatean Dark Souls 3 two times in a row - and in neither of those games I felt like any part was grinding, or like any part was just artificially elongated - which happens time and time again with games with MTs in them.

Coincedently those two games also prove the "cost of development" and "inflation" arguments to be bulls.hit, as both of those games are high quality big budget games without MTs that got high profits just on games own merits.

OP - you are an idiot.
Here is the thing. Your experience isn't everyone else's. Nothing in this world us universal. While you may not like MTs it may be a god send to others.

If you are buying the game, great. But that also names you a huge hypocrites considering you feel so strongly about how greedy the publishers are.

If you aren't then ut is pretty silly to waste your time in a forum for a game you aren't going to play especially considering you have so little free time as you say
Overlord1993 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:28 
引用自 edmek55555
引用自 Idontcareanyway
The more comments I read, the more dumbfounded I am by OPs and other people stupidity.

I commute to work half an hour (1 hour lost everyday), I work 10 hours a day, I work 3 out of 4 saturdays except for winter (I am civil engineer, winters are slower for us due to atmospheric conditions not always allowing us to work with concrete or to weld under certain temperature/snow/rain), I go to gym 3 times a week, I hang out with my friends regularly during weekends, I live on my own, not "with parents", I love playing video games - yet I am one of the strongest opposition to MTs in this forum.

And you know why is that OP? Because I am not stupid enough to believe that they are doing it "for my own good and enjoyment". I am also not stupid enough to not understand how MTs operate based on other games that use them. If they put them in then they sure as hell know that enough people will find pacing of the game (or endgame in SoW situation) to be terrible, gameplay to be tedious and grindy to warrant cost of implementing them being paid by them.

I do complain about lack of free time. Its sometimes really tempting to just call in sick to play some new game, but I don't do that, and you know why? Because I understand that if there are no reason for devs/publishers to f.uck with pacing and gameplay just to sell more shi.tty lootboxes then game will be enjoyable and rewarding even if I'll be able to only play it for few hours in a week.

I have close to 150 hours in Witcher 3, I've beatean Dark Souls 3 two times in a row - and in neither of those games I felt like any part was grinding, or like any part was just artificially elongated - which happens time and time again with games with MTs in them.

Coincedently those two games also prove the "cost of development" and "inflation" arguments to be bulls.hit, as both of those games are high quality big budget games without MTs that got high profits just on games own merits.

OP - you are an idiot.
Here is the thing. Your experience isn't everyone else's. Nothing in this world us universal. While you may not like MTs it may be a god send to others.

If you are buying the game, great. But that also names you a huge hypocrites considering you feel so strongly about how greedy the publishers are.

If you aren't then ut is pretty silly to waste your time in a forum for a game you aren't going to play especially considering you have so little free time as you say
Well, MT's are literally not a godsend to anyone, it's a curse disguised as a blessing. Know what we used to call MT's when they were included in the game for anyone to use? Cheats. They were free to everyone and anyone could use it.
最后由 Overlord1993 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:28
Idontcareanyway 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:28 
引用自 edmek55555
Here is the thing. Your experience isn't everyone else's. Nothing in this world us universal. While you may not like MTs it may be a god send to others.

If you are buying the game, great. But that also names you a huge hypocrites considering you feel so strongly about how greedy the publishers are.

If you aren't then ut is pretty silly to waste your time in a forum for a game you aren't going to play especially considering you have so little free time as you say

Of course I am not bying this game. I don't condone anti-consumer practices. By the way - how stupid you have to be to not see that they don't give a s.hit about you saving time? Can you chose what you get to surely speed up your game? Hell no. You just pull one-arm-bandit lever without even knowing the chances.

You are an idiot. You are doing more harm to gaming with your stupidity than WB with MTs. You know why is that? Because if there won't be idiots advocating on how it is "actually good for gamers" then they would just drop that when people would not buy games with MTs in them.
最后由 Idontcareanyway 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:29
Idontcareanyway 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:31 
引用自 Rogue Lycan
Lol like a few hours gone by come back online to check people talking about the actual game as it is near release then the same threads are at the top that are infested with trolls bashing the game and WB. Some people got nothing better to do with there time.

Oh man, If only Steam had a phone app that allowed you to comment while you are walking somewhere to do something. Alas, technology is not there yet.
Overlord1993 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:34 
引用自 Rogue Lycan
Lol like a few hours gone by come back online to check people talking about the actual game as it is near release then the same threads are at the top that are infested with trolls bashing the game and WB. Some people got nothing better to do with there time.
Lol, all I see is people concerned with scam crates and corporate shills defending them,
LemonyNebula 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:34 
引用自 Idontcareanyway

Oh man, If only Steam had a phone app that allowed you to comment while you are walking somewhere to do something. Alas, technology is not there yet.

It really isn't, the app just crashes all the time for me and doesn't let me type.
Idontcareanyway 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:36 
引用自 LemonyNebula
引用自 Idontcareanyway

Oh man, If only Steam had a phone app that allowed you to comment while you are walking somewhere to do something. Alas, technology is not there yet.

It really isn't, the app just crashes all the time for me and doesn't let me type.

It works great on my Xiaomi Mi4C. Did not crash even once, and I use it all the time (as seen by number of comments).
Donte 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:38 
Sorry,but are you and I.D.I.O.T. ?? For people that dont have time,few years ago existed CHEATS. Free stuff implemented by developer :)))
You are dumb or prolly have 5 years if not less.
Sorry for offensive but what I've read is dumb af
最后由 Donte 编辑于; 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:38
edmek55555 2017 年 10 月 7 日 上午 5:38 
引用自 Idontcareanyway
引用自 edmek55555
Here is the thing. Your experience isn't everyone else's. Nothing in this world us universal. While you may not like MTs it may be a god send to others.

If you are buying the game, great. But that also names you a huge hypocrites considering you feel so strongly about how greedy the publishers are.

If you aren't then ut is pretty silly to waste your time in a forum for a game you aren't going to play especially considering you have so little free time as you say

Of course I am not bying this game. I don't condone anti-consumer practices. By the way - how stupid you have to be to not see that they don't give a s.hit about you saving time? Can you chose what you get to surely speed up your game? Hell no. You just pull one-arm-bandit lever without even knowing the chances.

You are an idiot. You are doing more harm to gaming with your stupidity than WB with MTs. You know why is that? Because if there won't be idiots advocating on how it is "actually good for gamers" then they would just drop that when people would not buy games with MTs in them.
So you are on a forum for a game you aren't going to buy, conversing with someone you consider an idiot on your spare time? Something tells me your free time isn't as limited as you say
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