about betray and blood brothers .

[Exbeer]

so im seeing some posts about the berayal / blood brothers etc, is it a huge problem ? is there a way to work around it , is there youtube vid that explains it better and how to be awere of what not to do ?

[Nikke]

Just check if your target has blood brothers in your followers. You find if a captain has blood brothers by checking the "hates" section in their strengths

[Chasing]

The Blood Brother trait is extremely annoying to deal with when one Orc is quite strong and the other is extremely weak. So hard to deal with lol. Betrayal seems to be a big problem at the moment, I'm not sure about the YouTube videos but I guess it's worth a look and I honestly would try your absoloute best not to kill a blood brother to your branded Orc. It's a pain to get them back on your side, especially when they're difficult to deal with.

[Exbeer]

Originally posted by ChasingMyRegrets:

The Blood Brother trait is extremely annoying to deal with when one Orc is quite strong and the other is extremely weak. So hard to deal with lol. Betrayal seems to be a big problem at the moment, I'm not sure about the YouTube videos but I guess it's worth a look and I honestly would try your absoloute best not to kill a blood brother to your branded Orc. It's a pain to get them back on your side, especially when they're difficult to deal with.

so if you brand one , if it got blood brother just cut him up and toss him awy ? :) . can this be a thing with the region added orcs as well , them you get from boxes ?

[Nikke]

Originally posted by Exbeer:

Originally posted by ChasingMyRegrets:

The Blood Brother trait is extremely annoying to deal with when one Orc is quite strong and the other is extremely weak. So hard to deal with lol. Betrayal seems to be a big problem at the moment, I'm not sure about the YouTube videos but I guess it's worth a look and I honestly would try your absoloute best not to kill a blood brother to your branded Orc. It's a pain to get them back on your side, especially when they're difficult to deal with.

so if you brand one , if it got blood brother just cut him up and toss him awy ? :) . can this be a thing with the region added orcs as well , them you get from boxes ?

They still stay blood brothers, so it's not recommended to kill the unbranded one.

[Lopiel]

In my experience, it can be a pain sometimes. Had to kill some of my favourite Orcs because they ended up randomly betraying me.

The blood brother trait is noted in the details of each Uruk, and it will even tell you who their blood brother is. The best solution I have found is to dominate the blood brother so that your Uruk will become raged when his blood brother is attacked if you use them both together commonly in missions and sieges.

One thing for betrayal I seem to find, is that if an Orc is the same level as you- they are more likely to betray you. They sometimes state that "you're holding me back" or other such things as that. So maybe you need to ensure your Uruk does not reach the same level you are. Those Uruk tend to also get Iron will, making it impossible for you to bring them over to your side again.

I can see why the whole betrayel system is annoying alot of people, maybe they will add an option to turn it off or something.

[Exbeer]

Originally posted by Caesar:

In my experience, it can be a pain sometimes. Had to kill some of my favourite Orcs because they ended up randomly betraying me.

The blood brother trait is noted in the details of each Uruk, and it will even tell you who their blood brother is. The best solution I have found is to dominate the blood brother so that your Uruk will become raged when his blood brother is attacked if you use them both together commonly in missions and sieges.

One thing for betrayal I seem to find, is that if an Orc is the same level as you- they are more likely to betray you. They sometimes state that "you're holding me back" or other such things as that. So maybe you need to ensure your Uruk does not reach the same level you are. Those Uruk tend to also get Iron will, making it impossible for you to bring them over to your side again.

I can see why the whole betrayel system is annoying alot of people, maybe they will add an option to turn it off or something.

well i mean orcs are orcs ? hehe ,, but what i kinda ment was if i brand a ork and he has a blood brother , maby jsut kill them off "if they arent with a high lev orc that one wants be his side,, or do they get blood brother randomly wenever ?

[jezuitx]

What if you get both of them, then throw the weak blood brother into the Pit? Will the other blood brother be mad if someone in the Pit kills him?

[Lopiel]

Originally posted by jezuitx:

What if you get both of them, then throw the weak blood brother into the Pit? Will the other blood brother be mad if someone in the Pit kills him?

Now that would be interesting to test!

Originally posted by Exbeer:

Originally posted by Caesar:

In my experience, it can be a pain sometimes. Had to kill some of my favourite Orcs because they ended up randomly betraying me.

The blood brother trait is noted in the details of each Uruk, and it will even tell you who their blood brother is. The best solution I have found is to dominate the blood brother so that your Uruk will become raged when his blood brother is attacked if you use them both together commonly in missions and sieges.

One thing for betrayal I seem to find, is that if an Orc is the same level as you- they are more likely to betray you. They sometimes state that "you're holding me back" or other such things as that. So maybe you need to ensure your Uruk does not reach the same level you are. Those Uruk tend to also get Iron will, making it impossible for you to bring them over to your side again.

I can see why the whole betrayel system is annoying alot of people, maybe they will add an option to turn it off or something.

well i mean orcs are orcs ? hehe ,, but what i kinda ment was if i brand a ork and he has a blood brother , maby jsut kill them off "if they arent with a high lev orc that one wants be his side,, or do they get blood brother randomly wenever ?

I have had Orcs in my army that did not have the blood brother trait, then suddenly gained it with another Orc in my army. It's up to you if you wanna kill them or not. Sometimes I have had a blood brother betray me, only for me to dominate him again.

[Exbeer]

Originally posted by Caesar:

Originally posted by jezuitx:

What if you get both of them, then throw the weak blood brother into the Pit? Will the other blood brother be mad if someone in the Pit kills him?

Now that would be interesting to test out!

Originally posted by Exbeer:

well i mean orcs are orcs ? hehe ,, but what i kinda ment was if i brand a ork and he has a blood brother , maby jsut kill them off "if they arent with a high lev orc that one wants be his side,, or do they get blood brother randomly wenever ?

I have had Orcs in my army that did not have the blood brother trait, then suddenly gained it with another Orc in my army. It's up to you if you wanna kill them or not. Sometimes I have had a blood brother betray me, only for me to dominate him again.

okey,, good to know ,, and yes the putting them up aginst eachother woude be nice to find out,, maby that is the clue ? :) some one get on that asaaps :)

[Elrofrost]

The best approach to kill both brothers, or brand both. That's the safest bet. If you kill one and brand the other, you are asking for betrayal. Even if you don't kill the bother.. if you set him up to be killed by another orc, you will be betrayed.

[Exbeer]

Originally posted by stephen:

The best approach to kill both brothers, or brand both. That's the safest bet. If you kill one and brand the other, you are asking for betrayal. Even if you don't kill the bother.. if you set him up to be killed by another orc, you will be betrayed.

okey then, branding it is :)