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Malecite Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:12am
Game has already been cracked, can we remove Denuvo now?
Hello.

I will not support denuvo, and as such I won't support the game. The copyright protection of this game was cracked prior to its release so could you please stop punishing paying users and remove denuvo at this point? Maybe get your money back? I would very much like to buy this game and support the devs but denuvo is a no buy for me.

/Respectfully, a fan.
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Pulkvedis Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:16am 
I would appreciate not being pestered by Denuvo daily as well.
Apocolyptica Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:18am 
Not trying to argue, but why does it bother you that it's there? I don't notice it at all..
Malecite Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by Apocolyptica:
Not trying to argue, but why does it bother you that it's there? I don't notice it at all..

Well 2 reasons.

1) I have had REALLY bad experiences with denuvo in the past, even attribute some ssd harddrive failures/problems to that, as well as OS problems. Never mind the game instability issues. Although I am glad to hear you are not experiencing any.

2) It literally serves 0 purpose at this point, since the scene groups tore through it like a hot knife through butter. So having it eat performance and cause issues, even minor ones is pointless.

Many developers have started patching out denuvo once its failed, and I am hoping this dev will be no exception. It sucks and I really feel for them, but this is the reality.
Last edited by Malecite; Oct 13, 2017 @ 10:45am
Pulkvedis Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by Apocolyptica:
Not trying to argue, but why does it bother you that it's there? I don't notice it at all..
You don't notice it, but this is what I'm getting: https://i.imgur.com/O4VGy99.jpg
2 damn days in a row.
karhu Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:22am 
Only in very rare cases have Denuvo ever been removed. I am not sure if it's because these companies hate consumers or because they want to agitate piratism.
Malecite Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:24am 
Originally posted by karhu:
Only in very rare cases have Denuvo ever been removed. I am not sure if it's because these companies hate consumers or because they want to agitate piratism.

I don't know either, I know with resident evil 7 capcom tried to get a refund from Denuvo and I don't know if they were successful but that game definitely revived the series. Doom removed denuvo, great game also.

The EU recent released a report showing that piracy had zero demonstrated impact on sales in some areas, so I wish video game devs would take a page. Put that money into the qulaity of your product instead of pissing off end users who are buying it.
Last edited by Malecite; Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:25am
Peek Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:34am 
I agree that Denuvo is kind of useless and a pain for people who bought the game legitly. Not all but majority of players who pirated a particular game wouldn't have bought the game in the first place anyway, so having extra digital protection like Denuvo on top of Steam check is too much in my opinion. This is also why if there's a Ubisoft game that I want, i just buy a Uplay key, so I do not have to double launch a client, same thing with Origin games.
mahpally Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by Pulkvedis:
Originally posted by Apocolyptica:
Not trying to argue, but why does it bother you that it's there? I don't notice it at all..
You don't notice it, but this is what I'm getting: https://i.imgur.com/O4VGy99.jpg
2 damn days in a row.

You should email them to see what they say: support@wbgames.com or Wbgames.intsupport@warnerbros.com
Naughty Mouse Oct 13, 2017 @ 7:54am 
Thats like saying, there is no need to lock your front door at home because the lock can be picked by anybody with some minor skill.

Denuvo is in, they will keep using it, and thats it.
hcutid Oct 13, 2017 @ 8:00am 
Thats a great way to fight piracy. Punish legitimate customers while making that malware free pirate edition look even sweeter.
karhu Oct 13, 2017 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by Naughty Mouse:
Thats like saying, there is no need to lock your front door at home because the lock can be picked by anybody with some minor skill.

Denuvo is in, they will keep using it, and thats it.
The only reason to lock your front door is for insurance company to pay the damages and convince them that it wasn't your fault robbers got in. It's pure formality. In this case the publisher is the home owner and game owners have paid to get in the house. The lock has been broken by codex and everyone else can go in freely except those who paid for it. And there is no insurance company in this formula. Your example is hilariously accurate and inaccurate at the same time.
Last edited by karhu; Oct 13, 2017 @ 8:10am
Blackdeth Oct 13, 2017 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by karhu:
Originally posted by Naughty Mouse:
Thats like saying, there is no need to lock your front door at home because the lock can be picked by anybody with some minor skill.

Denuvo is in, they will keep using it, and thats it.
The only reason to lock your front door is for insurance company to pay the damages and convince them that it wasn't your fault robbers got in. It's pure formality. In this case the publisher is the home owner and game owners have paid to get in the house. The lock has been broken by codex and everyone else can go in freely except those who paid for it. And there is no insurance company in this formula. Your example is hilariously accurate and inaccurate at the same time.

Wow he was so sure of what he was saying. Guess he isn't as smart as he thought he was.
Paranochat Oct 13, 2017 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by Naughty Mouse:
Thats like saying, there is no need to lock your front door at home because the lock can be picked by anybody with some minor skill.

Denuvo is in, they will keep using it, and thats it.

Except a pirate doesn't steal games. A thief that lockpick and enter your house can steal your things. A pirate that crack a game and upload it didn't steal or harm anything in the process.
What's the point of your analogy ?

Denuvo has never been there to stop piracy anyway. It was there to boost first week/month sales number, and even there, it failed. There's no point in keeping it now. Also there's an increasing number of devs that remove Denuvo from their game once cracked. Why wouldn't they ? Denuvo serves no purpose at this point, and brings NO advantage whatsoever to the player.

What's the reason to keep it ? Either it's useless and unecessary processing, or it's harming the consumers in other ways.
It's cracked anyway, so there must be another reason, right ? And it can't be a good one.
MAD2169 Oct 13, 2017 @ 10:41am 
Denuvo doesn't affect my gameplay at all so I wonder why so many ♥♥♥♥♥ about it.
Malecite Oct 13, 2017 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Paranochat:
Originally posted by Naughty Mouse:
Thats like saying, there is no need to lock your front door at home because the lock can be picked by anybody with some minor skill.

Denuvo is in, they will keep using it, and thats it.

Except a pirate doesn't steal games. A thief that lockpick and enter your house can steal your things. A pirate that crack a game and upload it didn't steal or harm anything in the process.
What's the point of your analogy ?

Denuvo has never been there to stop piracy anyway. It was there to boost first week/month sales number, and even there, it failed. There's no point in keeping it now. Also there's an increasing number of devs that remove Denuvo from their game once cracked. Why wouldn't they ? Denuvo serves no purpose at this point, and brings NO advantage whatsoever to the player.

What's the reason to keep it ? Either it's useless and unecessary processing, or it's harming the consumers in other ways.
It's cracked anyway, so there must be another reason, right ? And it can't be a good one.

This is a great summary of my feelings towards Denuvo.

All home entry metaphors aside, it exists to try and boost sales in the first week (allegedly). It failed to do that as it was cracked within 24 hours of release. Having it linger in the code to hamper legitimate users gameplay experience makes very little sense to me.

Perhaps the alternative might be that it costs the devs more to unwrap the game code from Denuvo itself?
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