BLOOD BROTHERS

[Bangin Mc Hangin]

Any chance this is going to get tuned back? I am losing commanders left and right due to blood brothers. I am not kidding when i say i lost 3 commanders in one fright due to BB. One was a commander i got out of a box so not sure how that worked. Also do they get 100% iron will the first time? I had to shame then track them down and redom. I am not saying i hate BB, i think it just needs dialed back a bit.

[Beldar]

You have to read the Intel on the orcs before jumping into missions that involve them. Then you know the blood brother ability can become involved and then you plan ahead.

[VRipper]

Originally posted by Beldar/Lilith:

You have to read the Intel on the orcs before jumping into missions that involve them. Then you know the blood brother ability can become involved and then you plan ahead.

It's not that you can't plan for it, it's that the trait makes the game tedious and annoying when it is this common.

Having to constantly check if every new enemy you encounter happens to be one of your captain's blood-brothers gets really damn tiresome after a while. Not only that, but you really only have three ways of dealing with blood-brothers.
1. You kill them and just take the loss and lose a captain.
2. You avoid them like the plague, which can be kinda hard if one of your other captains happens to attack them.
3. You recruit them, which leaves you with a captain you might not even like.

And to make things worse, your captains can find new blood-brothers! So even if you get lucky and the blood-brother somehow dies on their own, your captains'll just find someone else!

[LoveTruffle]

Originally posted by VRipper:

Originally posted by Beldar/Lilith:

You have to read the Intel on the orcs before jumping into missions that involve them. Then you know the blood brother ability can become involved and then you plan ahead.

It's not that you can't plan for it, it's that the trait makes the game tedious and annoying when it is this common.
Having to constantly check if every new enemy you encounter happens to be one of your captain's blood-brothers gets really damn tiresome after a while. Not only that, but you really only have three ways of dealing with blood-brothers.
1. You kill them and just take the loss and lose a captain.
2. You avoid them like the plague, which can be kinda hard if one of your other captains happens to attack them.
3. You recruit them, which leaves you with a captain you might not even like.

Exactly this.

It's made me not care about my orcs in the slightest. It's always just a matter of time before they get attached to an orc I don't want or their blood brother betrays me.

[Morrtanius]

Option 4: Send them to their deaths while assaulting another player's fortress. That way their Blood Brother won't come after you.

[gompo]

so far, every orc follower that i have dominated has blood brother trait, even some that didnt start with it. they just get the trait randomly which makes it a ballache to do anything

[Obiwan]

you kill one BEFORE dominating the other.

OR if you want both you make sure that the 1st is NOT around for any dmg u inflict on the 2nd.

There really is nothing hard about this it just seems to me that ppl want it to not mean what it means and not have the effect it does but the argument that it cannot be handled efficiently and consistently is utter BS.

As for tedium? that is 100% subjective and the more I read this kind thing on the forums the more I have to ask myself why people are demanding tuning when they refuse to lower their difficulty.

Swallow your pride or bite the bullet.

[Amon]

https://community.wbgames.com/t5/General/BLOOD-BROTHERS-GETTING-OUT-OF-HAND/m-p/1696466#M19703
Rant about it here so theyll know it

[VRipper]

Originally posted by Obiwan:

you kill one BEFORE dominating the other.

OR if you want both you make sure that the 1st is NOT around for any dmg u inflict on the 2nd.

There really is nothing hard about this it just seems to me that ppl want it to not mean what it means and not have the effect it does but the argument that it cannot be handled efficiently and consistently is utter BS.

As for tedium? that is 100% subjective and the more I read this kind thing on the forums the more I have to ask myself why people are demanding tuning when they refuse to lower their difficulty.

Swallow your pride or bite the bullet.

As I said, it doesn't matter if you kill them 'cause your captain is just going to get another. And how is this a matter of difficulty? It doesn't matter what the difficulty setting is, lowering it doesn't fix the problem in this case.

And you mean to tell me that you enjoy constantly having to recruit orcs you don't really want? Do you enjoy opening the army screen during every encounter just to make sure that they're not the blood-brother of someone you like? Do you enjoy being betrayed by the captains you've spent both time and effort making as powerful as possible, just because you happened to kill some random shmuck who ambushed you?

I find it hard to believe that anyone would find enjoyment in that, so I'm going to say no, it isn't subjective.

[Indigo]

I can see where your coming from. I too was quite annoyed to start with, having to fight off and kill off all my allies, but sometimes there's a silver lining, I had one orc who I just gave all the best training too, kept up his levels and made him warcheif, well blood-brother thing happens and he kicks my arse like 3 v 1, so I read up on how to deal with that, turned out shaming them has a % chance to get rid of iron will, so I hunted him down shamed him a few times, the part I didn't read was it makes them deranged, so he wasn't as... fun to be around tbh, though hilarious on seige, but he went from epic to legendary quality during the ordeal. Making him my best unit

[Apsephion]

The problem is that some people are rarely seeing blood brothers and some, like myself, are seeing in constantly. Looking at my game you'd think that every orc is required to have blood brother at all times to live.

I've genuinely had a captain of mine gain 3 different blood brothers, all of whom were crap. I had to kill them then shame my own guy half a dozen times to get him back and that happended 3 times, in the end I just got fed up and killed him. honestly it's ruining my experience, I see no point in bothering to recruit any captains because I just have to kill them in the end.

[mathcore dei hire]

same here, for me I have Krakhorn Flesh-burner, a captain I love, and Flak maggot nest, a warchief who has killed me more times than Prak Jaws killed TearofGrace (great youtuber), so I hate him with a passion, my plan is to just let my Warchief (who isnt krakhorn) kill flak so Krakhorn might not get pissed