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gackie 2017 年 7 月 21 日 下午 3:14
Shelob Reveal Trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-O0Aw6WXko&feature=push-u&attr_tag=yr9icqfof_DfA6Qr-6

This reveals alot. Yes. This is deviating pretty damn far from canon now, but there's quite alot of details to be had in the trailer. It seems like you can only see Shelob in her... Maiar? Form with the Ring equipped. Which suggests that her true form is infact the spider. This is likely building off of the Desolation of Smaug where Bilbo had the ability to hear spiders via using the ring. Still, the trailer makes absolutely 0 sense. Shelob is not a central character. Nor can she change form. She was a simple spider who kept to Cirith Ungol and guarded the way into Mordor via the Secret Stair.

"We really want to actually connect it to the Lord of the Rings. We want that experience with this one in particular that by the time we get to the end of this story, if you go fire up and play or read the Lord of the Rings after that, you'll have this really seamless continuity from where our story finishes."

If this is to be the case, then they're already creating quite a flew plotholes.
最后由 gackie 编辑于; 2017 年 7 月 24 日 上午 1:19
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AbyssWanderer 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:07 
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
引用自 Maniac：
Who do you think should have taken Shelob's place giving Talion visions with each touch and had a history with helping Sauron. I do see Shelob fighting a wraith form Sauron. Whatever that green form was.
Nobody at all. Because like has been said, she was not the slightest bit important before the trailer was released.
Oh well. We all know Talion. He likes to think with his peepee rather than his mind like with Lithariel from the previous game. His family barely dead for long and he already wanted Lithariel.
最后由 AbyssWanderer 编辑于; 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:08
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gackie 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:07 
引用自 Gekkibi：
If they really need a character for that then they should have created a new one themselves so that they don't have to worry about revisioning characters that already have a place in the lore.
...Then again, this isn't the first time they're doing this. Celebrimbor...

Official Monolith words:
"We really want to actually connect it to the Lord of the Rings. We want that experience with this one in particular that by the time we get to the end of this story, if you go fire up and play or read the Lord of the Rings after that, you'll have this really seamless continuity from where our story finishes."
did they actually say that?
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gackie 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:08 
引用自 Maniac：
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
Nobody at all. Because like has been said, she was not the slightest bit important before the trailer was released.
Oh well. We all know Talion. He likes to think with his peepee rather than his mind like with Lithariel from the previous mind. His family barely dead for long and he already wanted Lithariel.
So he's gonna end up having sex with a portable garbage disposal?
#78
Gekkibi 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:08 
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
引用自 Gekkibi：
If they really need a character for that then they should have created a new one themselves so that they don't have to worry about revisioning characters that already have a place in the lore.
...Then again, this isn't the first time they're doing this. Celebrimbor...

Official Monolith words:
"We really want to actually connect it to the Lord of the Rings. We want that experience with this one in particular that by the time we get to the end of this story, if you go fire up and play or read the Lord of the Rings after that, you'll have this really seamless continuity from where our story finishes."
did they actually say that?
Yes, yes they did:
http://za.ign.com/shadow-of-mordor-2/105213/preview/shadow-of-war-6-things-you-probably-didnt-know
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AbyssWanderer 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:09 
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
引用自 Maniac：
Oh well. We all know Talion. He likes to think with his peepee rather than his mind like with Lithariel from the previous mind. His family barely dead for long and he already wanted Lithariel.
So he's gonna end up having sex with a portable garbage disposal?
Lol she going to make more baby spiders with him and then kill him like all female spiders do with their male partners.
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gackie 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:15 
引用自 Gekkibi：
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
did they actually say that?
Yes, yes they did:
http://za.ign.com/shadow-of-mordor-2/105213/preview/shadow-of-war-6-things-you-probably-didnt-know
*facetable* What are they doing!?
最后由 gackie 编辑于; 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:16
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Gekkibi 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:16 
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
引用自 Gekkibi：
Yes, yes they did:
http://za.ign.com/shadow-of-mordor-2/105213/preview/shadow-of-war-6-things-you-probably-didnt-know
*facetable*
I got cancer Morgul blade fragments from Reddit. Did you receive yours now? :P
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gackie 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:17 
引用自 Gekkibi：
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
*facetable*
I got cancer Morgul blade fragments from Reddit. Did you receive yours now? :P
Now that I've just read that, yes. They clearly stated that it's non-canon... But also want it to feel canon...
#83
Gekkibi 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:22 
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
引用自 Gekkibi：
I got cancer Morgul blade fragments from Reddit. Did you receive yours now? :P
Now that I've just read that, yes. They clearly stated that it's non-canon... But also want it to feel canon...
They probably want to please everyone. What could possibly go wrong..?
We'll see how notable Middle-earth geeks respond to this. In my opinion this requires some form of backlash. The gameplay might be great, but at this point that's not relevant. End does not justify the means.
#84
DarkHenrik 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:28 
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
引用自 Maniac：
There is a thing like luck and suprise attack in battle. Look it up. Even one of the worse fighters can win with luck or suprise attack to stun your enemies. He also used Phial of Galadriel that was one of her biggest weaknesses. Light. Shelob looked really desprate to me and havent eaten in a while to risk even going after them still. Also each storyline needs an useless guy that becomes the biggest hero when all odds are stacked against him.
Yes. Okay. Sam killed a half-naked spider witch who didn't evem try to turn into a half-naked spider witch. To say she doesn't like light, she seems rather content on being outside. And unless they are going to war at the time, I doubt cloud would be conjured up just so Shelob could... Go outside. It's a poor protrayal. She was not a powerful being, and just like her MILLIONS of other brothers and sisters, she was not intelligent or powerful in any way. Sounds like a great candidate for wielding a ring of power! Yulk! Yulk!. I don't know why or how one could excuse it right now. It's a silly protrayal.
ok, now you are getting things wrong, Shelob and other giant spiders like her are sentient, some even to the point of talking (though only a few can understand them).
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gackie 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 5:31 
引用自 DarkHenrik：
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
Yes. Okay. Sam killed a half-naked spider witch who didn't evem try to turn into a half-naked spider witch. To say she doesn't like light, she seems rather content on being outside. And unless they are going to war at the time, I doubt cloud would be conjured up just so Shelob could... Go outside. It's a poor protrayal. She was not a powerful being, and just like her MILLIONS of other brothers and sisters, she was not intelligent or powerful in any way. Sounds like a great candidate for wielding a ring of power! Yulk! Yulk!. I don't know why or how one could excuse it right now. It's a silly protrayal.
ok, now you are getting things wrong, Shelob and other giant spiders like her are sentient, some even to the point of talking (though only a few can understand them).
I'm aware. But now she's speaking elequant westron.
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Snowskeeper 2017 年 7 月 22 日 上午 11:08 
Yeah, even the giant spiders in Mirkwood were about as intelligent as the trolls in the Misty Mountains.

(I do think Ungoliant could handle the ring. She was more powerful than Melkor, though OFC a lot less influential and cunning which is why she ultimately lost that confrontation. But this isn't Ungoliant. Not only have they been leading up to it being Shelob since the previous game, they've identified her as Shelob in the description of the video.)
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gackie 2017 年 7 月 22 日 下午 12:53 
Someone from the Reddit thread attempted to defend it by saying that lord of the rings is adaptable folklore similar to Red Riding Hood. Okay.
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gackie 2017 年 7 月 22 日 下午 12:59 
Be careful folks, people on the subreddit who've likely never picked up a book are defending this to the bone. You will be absolutely decimated by their furious downvotes. How dare you not want a classic and intricate series to be poorly adaptated.
最后由 gackie 编辑于; 2017 年 7 月 22 日 下午 12:59
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Gekkibi 2017 年 7 月 22 日 下午 1:00 
引用自 Hat Skeleton!：
Someone from the Reddit thread attempted to defend it by saying that lord of the rings is adaptable folklore similar to Red Riding Hood. Okay.
Totally. It's also very similar to Ryse: Son of Rome and how it is very loyal to historical accuracy: Nero at his old age died when he got pierced by a statue's sword, after his son he never had died in Colosseum that got built years before it was built by a war veteran who fought In Britain on the north side of the wall that wasn't built, and this happened at the same time a daughter of a British king was riding elephants and wrecked havoc on the streets of Rome.

...Then again, I don't know many who try to justify that atrocity...
最后由 Gekkibi 编辑于; 2017 年 7 月 22 日 下午 1:03
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