Talion and Celembrimdor becomes evil?

[Nigerian Prince]

The gameplay reveal showed that Talion's eyes are glowing red and black dark vein started popping up. And don't forget in the end of Shadow of Mordor, his eyes turned red.

[DarkHenrik]

I think that was more of being cursed by the Storm-Bringer, remember that in the gameplay trailer, its shown that one of his abilities was to cause us curse damage for every hit we did on him.

[Vengeance]

No they're still fighting evil. But then again in this one you can forge a bigger army and get friendships with your followers so in a way you can be a bit evil if you sacrifice your followers or just feel like killing them. Depends how you see it yourself I guess.

[Sphinx of Black Quartz]

Become evil? That ship has already sailed. Talion and Celebrimbor are definitely the bad guys by the end of the first game. One of the recurring themes in Tolkien's work is you can't use the tools of evil without being corrupted in the process, no matter how pure your intentions.

[fellow traveller]

Originally posted by Pocket Nerd:

Become evil? That ship has already sailed. Talion and Celebrimbor are definitely the bad guys by the end of the first game. One of the recurring themes in Tolkien's work is you can't use the tools of evil without being corrupted in the process, no matter how pure your intentions.

But they've made a new ring, so it's possible that it does not corrupt the user.

[Ri0Rdian]

Originally posted by ARC Trooper Fives:

Originally posted by Pocket Nerd:

Become evil? That ship has already sailed. Talion and Celebrimbor are definitely the bad guys by the end of the first game. One of the recurring themes in Tolkien's work is you can't use the tools of evil without being corrupted in the process, no matter how pure your intentions.

But they've made a new ring, so it's possible that it does not corrupt the user.

Made with the knowledge shared by Sauron, so while the rings themselves are ok, the knowledge to craft them is tainted already.

I think it makes sense for them to conclude their story (if they want to do that) this way, with the possibility of someone new finishing them off in the next game.

[Sphinx of Black Quartz]

Originally posted by ARC Trooper Fives:

But they've made a new ring, so it's possible that it does not corrupt the user.

Well, even before forging a new Ring of Power, Talion is leading an army of marauding orcs, which he assembled through murder, brutality, and invasive mind control... at some point in there he really should have had an "Are we the baddies?" moment. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY

Originally posted by Ri0Rdian:

I think it makes sense for them to conclude their story (if they want to do that) this way, with the possibility of someone new finishing them off in the next game.

Yah. For what it's worth I'm fine with a villain protagonist; I had tremendous fun with Shadow of Mordor, and I'm excited about Shadow of War. But since I'm pretty sure the game won't be allowed to rewrite established Tolkien canon, and we know Sauron is still around doing his thing in 50 years or so when The Lord of the Rings takes place, I'm hoping for some sort of redemption arc in which Talion realizes he cannot continue to use the armies and weapons of the Dark Lord without eventually becoming a new Dark Lord.

(I believe the devs have gone on record pointing out Talion and Celebrimbor are basically what you'd get if Boromir or Galadriel had taken the One Ring and gone to war against Sauron.)

[Jokery]

absolute power corupts and calebrimbor already got corupted by the ring of power and with new ring just fuels his need for power

[Daddy Shark]

Duh. Sauron is obviously allowing all this to happen. He's letting you build up his forces for him before he crushes you and takes your new ring of power for himself. An Elf-Wraith with a ring of power is formidible indeed, but Sauron is a Maiar and on a whole different level entirely.

[The Infinite Archiver]

Y'do realise the main intent of the story is to delay his armies... right?
There's a whole different defefintion gap to defeating someone who's leading the army to killing off the sub-leaders to stop that army more easily..

[Renown]

I think you will become evil by the end of this game, and in the third game become the antagonist, with Faramir (sans wraith/ring power) and Rangers being the ones to put him down in East Gondor. You'd lose your special powers, but gain "numenorian senses" where you can see orcs/etc from a distance (smelling/who cares how) and whenever you get put down *or nearly killed* rangers rescue you. *Rangers who like orc bosses can develop personalities/stories and thus mean something when they die rescuing you, which could happen*

[WowIExist]

Well technically Talion is fighting Sauron so doesnt that make him good? Although i totally predict that Talion will kill Sauron then take his place.

[Snowskeeper]

The tools Celebrimbor used to make the New Ring are Sauron's tools, and the power he put into it was Sauron's power (keep in mind that it was Sauron who made him into a wraith; he's not called "the Necromancer" for nothing). The only difference between the New Ring and one of the older Rings of Power is that it's not under the direct control of the Dark Lord, and that will almost certainly come up.

[Sphinx of Black Quartz]

Originally posted by Flaming_Waffles:

Well technically Talion is fighting Sauron so doesnt that make him good? Although i totally predict that Talion will kill Sauron then take his place.

Saruman was fighting Sauron too.

[Ravenbones]

That was Curse damage you saw. Storm-Bringer was immune to the effects of the new ring of power. Anytime you were to strike him with an ability of it, the curse damage would increase.

You can tell that by looking and watching the gameplay trailer..

[Renown]

Originally posted by Pocket Nerd:

Originally posted by Flaming_Waffles:

Well technically Talion is fighting Sauron so doesnt that make him good? Although i totally predict that Talion will kill Sauron then take his place.

Saruman was fighting Sauron too.

Evil fights Evil just as much as it fights Good in Tolkien's universe.