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tjrr 6 set. 2015 às 7:46
Advertising concern of having a cannibal family...
I sometimes wonder when i read the comments on here regarding to the cannibal families. And then, this question mark shines on my mind.

I also hesitated when i was adding an idea to the megathread about game's improvements, which was about cigars. This game is played by children as well, how logical is lauding cannibalism? I'm reading comments like this on couple of threads.

What's the point of showing off like ''i have a cannibal family, oh yeah!''? What do you expect? Applauses? ''Oh, good guy, good guy, he has evolved his family in game as cannibals.'' -Applauses- And the oscar goes tooooooooo... Maybe, this kind of commets are written by children already but it really makes no sense.

By the way, my offer is, having a cannibal family has to have a negative addition in game like cannibalist attacks against each other in the shelter.

Última alteração por tjrr; 12 set. 2015 às 6:35
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Kennedy 6 set. 2015 às 9:37 
Seriously ?

It's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game , if we want a cannibal family , we will have a cannibal family .

It's a GAME .

#CANNIBALFAMILY
WhiteWolf 6 set. 2015 às 11:13 
Why would having a cannibal family have to have a negative addition? It's only downside is the moral dilemma. All the people in my shelter are starving, someone has died because of starving, everyone else will die soon because of starving, but lets bury that person instead of living for a few more days.
tjrr 6 set. 2015 às 12:23 
Hahah Kennedy you got it! I was really waiting for your comment, wait i will get you your Oscar.

Ghostwolf, cannibalism is not only a ''must'' or choice when you starve, it's also an psychologic disorder. It's just a game, i already know but doesn't the team also try to make it more realistic? The main subject of my comment, if you can eat human, then it has to be something bad in return like in real life.
WhiteWolf 6 set. 2015 às 18:58 
But what is bad about cannibalism in real life other then the social stigma. I think the psychologic disorder is just an excuse people use to enforce their moral judgments on others. The only bad thing if you do it in real life would be the chance of easily getting human pathogens, just like other meat, make sure you cook it well.. lol
Priestie 6 set. 2015 às 21:10 
I’m going to avoid the moral argument about cannibalism in a post-apocalyptic setting, mostly because I feel it has very little to do with the game. The argument I mean, not the mechanic. I’m sure there are relevant posts and blogs out there on the subject.

Such as:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceFiction/comments/1aqbwu/how_people_would_get_food_in_a_post_apocalyptic/

I will address however the idea that this game is ‘not for children’ or that the situations in the game should be censored to allow children to play it.

My feeling is, people need to step back and let Parents parent their own children… If you happen to believe in presenting moral questions to a child such as “what is a life worth and what would you do to preserve one” then games such as Sheltered and others provide a tool to engage your children in conversation.

If you prefer to offer a black and white view of the world to your kids, a world where-in there are absolutely NO advantages to doing anything out-side of what is strictly considered socially/religiously/ethically acceptable by your OWN standards, than no this game is probably not a game you want your child to play unsupervised.

Regardless, I don’t feel that it is acceptable to impose your own moral calculus on a gamming community. It is unfair to try to hijack a game in early development in order express your personal views. $15 is simply not worth that much by-in sorry.

Frankly I’d say the same regardless if I agreed with your view or not that cannibalism does exact a price on your soul.

Post Script: And by the way I do agree with your view. I just don’t feel I get to impose it on the game as a whole.
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Lis 7 set. 2015 às 3:21 
I really enjoy the moral ambiguity. I've never had any of my families descend into cannibalism, but I've been sure as hell tempted a few times. It should be a tough choice and one that does have its consequences -- I'd make it so you lose 'moral' recruited characters as well as raising your chances for violent encounters.

Other than that, having a straight penalty for making a moral decision isn't something I'm interested in at all. It diminishes the game and instead of letting this be a sandbox of survival ethics, it simply becomes a game where you make the choices the dev wants you to in order to survive longer.
Kennedy 7 set. 2015 às 8:44 
Just is :

#CANNIBALFAMILY
tjrr 11 set. 2015 às 7:07 
I'm all against making it kinda advertisement as you can see the comment above . While criticizing this, i just wanted to try putting some logical approach. That's all.

#areyouhavingagoodtimewithyourcannibalfamily
Kennedy 11 set. 2015 às 10:15 
Originalmente postado por Câlin:
I'm all against making it kinda advertisement as you can see the comment above . While criticizing this, i just wanted to try putting some logical approach. That's all.

#areyouhavingagoodtimewithyourcannibalfamily

A good time with , a good time .
Wolfskull 12 set. 2015 às 1:01 
Wow, really?
I'm a friggin' vegan in reallife.
I killed 2000+ cows in minecraft along with countless other animals.
I was euphoric when I heard GTA V would have wildlife in it because MOAR STUFF TO KILL!
The unnatural selection achievement in Red dead redemption (kill every species at least once) was the first one I went for (well, after the "place hogtied woman on train tracks" one) just for the lols.
And in sheltered, my dudes down there munch on delicate strangers even in times of 250+ food in stock because #CANNIBALFAMILY

Long story short: It's a game. Sometimes, it's fun to abolish your morals in games. Because in games, it doesn't hurt anyone. Because it's not real. And it's definitely not advertising, otherwise I would be out in the woods right now, killing any living thing I see instead of sitting here, nibbling on some tofu.
tjrr 12 set. 2015 às 6:33 
Originalmente postado por Skull on the Horizon:
Wow, really?
I'm a friggin' vegan in reallife.
I killed 2000+ cows in minecraft along with countless other animals.
I was euphoric when I heard GTA V would have wildlife in it because MOAR STUFF TO KILL!
The unnatural selection achievement in Red dead redemption (kill every species at least once) was the first one I went for (well, after the "place hogtied woman on train tracks" one) just for the lols.
And in sheltered, my dudes down there munch on delicate strangers even in times of 250+ food in stock because #CANNIBALFAMILY

Long story short: It's a game. Sometimes, it's fun to abolish your morals in games. Because in games, it doesn't hurt anyone. Because it's not real. And it's definitely not advertising, otherwise I would be out in the woods right now, killing any living thing I see instead of sitting here, nibbling on some tofu.

Don't tell me you're from those who don't eat ''any'' animal nutrition but buying the same sector's ''extra vegan'' products. The money all the way goes to the same ''killers''.

Anyway, it's an other subject's issue. The title of the thread must have been wrong, While opening this, my main target was advertising concern of having a cannibal family. There was an other thread on the community and there was written ''I have found a really big market full of food in ''blabla city'' (the guy was informating the players of this in good faith) then there it's, the second comment of the thread is: ''oh, i don't care i have a cannibal family, it's the only way. ^#CANNIBALFAMILY'' or something like that.

Anyways...
Última alteração por tjrr; 12 set. 2015 às 6:33
Wolfskull 12 set. 2015 às 7:11 
Originalmente postado por Câlin:

Don't tell me you're from those who don't eat ''any'' animal nutrition but buying the same sector's ''extra vegan'' products. The money all the way goes to the same ''killers''.

Anyway, it's an other subject's issue. The title of the thread must have been wrong, While opening this, my main target was advertising concern of having a cannibal family. There was an other thread on the community and there was written ''I have found a really big market full of food in ''blabla city'' (the guy was informating the players of this in good faith) then there it's, the second comment of the thread is: ''oh, i don't care i have a cannibal family, it's the only way. ^#CANNIBALFAMILY'' or something like that.

Anyways...
I didn't meant to turn that into a discussion about veganism, so don't worry, no need to build up straw men. Most of my food is still just normal food like bread, noodles, vegetables, fruits and what not and partially grown in my own garden, nothing of that has an "extra vegan" mark on it. The other, "extra vegan" stuff comes from companies specialized on only vegan products.

Back to cannibalism: I'm pretty sure Mr. Kennedy here who wrote said comment of concern isn't a cannibal in reallife nor wants to become one in near future. Maybe because cannibalism can in fact cause an illness called Kuru. And ... maybe because cannibalism is illegal. But Kennedy himself already responded to this topic anyway.

All what's left to say from my part is that I not only appreciate, but furthermore participate in his kind of ingame lifestyle, because it's fun due to the reasons I mentioned before.
Kennedy 12 set. 2015 às 10:17 
Vegans are such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ , really .

#CANNIBALFAMILY
Metal Music Enjoyer 12 set. 2015 às 15:49 
lmao You guys do realize that in real life, eating someone can have psychological effects on you, right? Like, such as craving flesh and attacking people in a fit of psychosis because the unconscious urge to eat flesh is imprinted possible when you even eat a small piece of human flesh?
WhiteWolf 12 set. 2015 às 19:41 
Just like beef or any other animal that one might like, someone says your having steaks for dinner and you start tasting it before you even cook it. A nice juicy flavorful tender steak cooked exactly how you like it. What is so wrong with helping to curb the major human overpopulation of this world, people keep saying about how we should leave the world a better place, right? lol
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