worst gun in your opinion?

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

just for fun.
not including pistols, they all suck except for the c96

i think the worst weapon in the game in the american 30cal. mg. it fires so slowly, it's recoil is so strong. it's 150 round belt is not nearly enough to compensate for its poor accuracy, and horrible hipfire preformance...

what do you think?

[76]

Thats how hipfire should be for all mg's

You know the MG42 is complete bu||sh|t when in two tiny bursts I can shoot down a recon plane.... did twi even test that sh|t!?

So.... worst weapons are MGs that are 4-5x heavier than an SMG with half that weight not centred to the players body but the player has the same agility and movement as a player with an SMG.

[RalphRoberts]

The Flamethrower.

[Mystic Referee]

Idk, I was able to get about 23 kills holding one position with the TT-33. Though I guess the 4 melees don't count.

Admitedly I hate the sights on the KAR98 and typically will rarely use it.

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

G41 is pretty bad. Worst RO2 weapon. I'd rather take a pistol.

[Radmir Rope]

Japanese LMG's especially stationary one. They look ugly hasn't got good firerate and the worst cons they have small clip. The stationary one was definetely designed by imbecile kinda shoot a couple of people=> expose yourself=> being killed why reloading cos it has 30 bullet clip. I mean srsly 30 clip for stationary mg well typical japanese invention. You can do good ♥♥♥♥ with them especially if you change positions etc but anyway i hate them so much.

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

The ZB 26 family of light machine guns was one of the most Succesful LMG types. The type 96 and 99 were part of it. As was the bren.

Their hipfire performance was better than a BAR lol.

The japanese stationary mg is also the best one. Doesn't have a reload time.

[IRDCAM]

The scary part is a lot of these weapons had the same faults as well as advantages in real life.

The slow rate of fire of the US M1919 LMG was both good and bad, on a tripod it made for a real accurate weapon, hand held, really no one really expected to hit anything with it and it got way too hot to play Rambo.

Japanese Light Machineguns were notoriously bad. The top clip fed ones were prone to jams, the 'bowl' feeded ones where loose rounds were dropped in a 'bowl' feeder system got dirty, and for some reason the rounds had to be oiled and dropped thru a oiled 'brush' before loaded, total dirt magnet. And the Hotchkiss styled side clip loaders were notorious for jams as well and feeder clips getting locked in gun if they got bent.

The standard bolters M91/30, K98, and Springfield 03 are excellant weapons, accurate and just plain 'fun'.

No one compares to the M1 Garand, love that rifle

I avoid pistols, yes the C96 is a POS, the M1911 is the best out there.

The tie for worst weapon out there is the German C96 and G41.

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

C96 is alright once it's level 25.

The P38 is deemed by many as the best pistol of the war. Disputed by the FN browning hi power and the colt m1911. The P38 was accurate and reloaded fast. The hi power had 13 rounds which for back then was a lot for a pistol. However the factory it was originally made in was in Belgium. Wasn't until late 1944 where it started to get manufactured offshore for the british. The colt as a pistol where you could be pretty sure to floor anyone who shot. Lower recoil and a faster fire rate and loading time than revolvers of similar calibre.

I don't know much about the japaneae LMGs. But the bren was good. As was the weapon they were all based off of. Side mounted foregrip rather than top mounted as it is on the japanese ones. Both used rimmed cartridges whereas the original used rimless. Rimless for an LMG makes more sense. Rimmed is why the magazines are curved.

[SCUMM]

C96 is possibly, along with the Tommy gun, the weapon with the most bonuses per its level 25 upgrades. The base level version is quirky but usable, albeit with a lot of recoil animation being played when firing. Level 25 not only opens a reload at any time with the box magazine, but also (not stated in the upgrades) the shooter fires it with 2 hands, meaning the recoil animation is a lot less chaotic. Level 50 it turns into a blooming pocket PPSh.

Comparison vid I made last year about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUegJDgd_Ds

The other pistols are kind of meh. They are side arms and I can accept that. The N1895 is kinda fun though.

Worst gun for me is the base level G41 sniper rifle. Not only is it G41 naffness, but it also has one of the worst scopes in the game. Level 25 upwards is OK, but it switches to loading individual bullets which is slow as hell.

[IRDCAM]

The P-38 vs M1911 controversy was based on the cartridges used and knock down power. The 9X19mm 'Parabellum' round did not and still does not have the knockdown power of the .45 ACP used in the M1911. Unlike game it took more than 1 9mm round to ensure the target was 'down. where a .45ACP in the shoulder usually meant the targets arm falls off, a real demotivating event. The military 9mm 115gr FMJ round fired by the Germans was usually 'iron' cored which could not expand on impact...ever...and moving near 1200fps, where the .45 ACP military 230gr FMJ was a lead cored jacketed round that could 'expand' at times based on the lead core, at only 830fps. Which would have more impact energy? It is physics people.

Now lets look at that. Throw a tennis ball (9mm) at someone real fast and ask the person hit how it felt, then throw a baseball, larger diameter, heavier (.45ACP) at someone a lot slower and ask the target which 'hurt' more.

The American Army tried to replace the M1911 with the M9 9mm in the late 1980's, and the lack of knockdown led to the recent reinvention of .45ACP weapons coming back into service.

When you are up to your armpits in alligators, and your pockets are full of meat, you want a weapon that you are sure will eliminate each threat with 1 round rather than multiple rounds. If the target goes down with 1 .45ACP from a 7 round magazine, and it takes 2 9mm from a 13 round magazine, the advantage is what again?

And once again the 'scopes' for the in game 'marksman' were 300m 3.5 to 4X scopes not modern 800m scopes. The G41 'sniper' is no better or worse than any other 'sniper' rifle in game other than the loading process. Just a heads up, the stripper clip 'loader' used by the standard M-14 was also unusable when the scope was on the rifle (M21 system). You used the stripper clip function to 'top off' magazine in rifle rather than taking off the magazine, finding your stripper clip guide, attaching it to magazine and then 5 round stripper clip, and reinserting magazine. Time can be a problem in actual combat.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

wow so much information X_X

what's wrong with the G41? i use it every once and a while and its great. the recoil is easy to control, the sights are good, and great accuracy.
the only drawback is the long reload time when your mag is empty.

the japanese type 99 is the secomd best LMG in the game, second only to the MG34. its deadly accurate, great rate of fire, GODLIKE hipfire preformance, i can hit people from 30m with this baby.
plus you get a FRIGGIN SCOPE at level 50, that's so imba im not even allowing myself to use it.

[Probably a Weeb]

The M1 Garand, the iron sights are massive and the gun does less damage than the springfield 1903 despite being the same caliber. Many times have I taken 3+ hits during a banzai charge and lived to tell the tale. What should be the worst guns are the japanese light and heavy mgs, but they really aren't that bad at all in game.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Originally posted by Koko Hekmatyar:

The M1 Garand, the iron sights are massive and the gun does less damage than the springfield 1903 despite being the same caliber. Many times have I taken 3+ hits during a banzai charge and lived to tell the tale. What should be the worst guns are the japanese light and heavy mgs, but they really aren't that bad at all in game.

springfield has much higer muzzle velocity and barrel length. so it does more damage. caliber is not the only thing that counts

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

Both guns in game do 115 damage. In this game that's all that counts. Don't like sights on either rifle. Springfield is also really damn slow.

[IRDCAM]

The peep and pin sight system on the M1 Garand and M1 Carbine are easy to use if you know how. Off/on is how you use them, off sight locate the target, on sight engage, off sight to respot, repeat as required. Trying to focus and locate on sight is NOT the way to use the sight.

Springfield 1903 is based on the Mauser operating system but as usual in American weapons of the time 'over engineered' so with the American double locking lugs design is far harder and slower to operate than the Mauser K98.

And you must understand impact energy to understand what bullet does when it hits. The .30/06 fired from the locked bolt M1903 is faster than fired from the M1 Garand where part of the gas expansion is used to operate the system. Though marginally slower the .30/06 from the M1 Garand has a tad less impact energy than the M1903. Also in TRW the closer the target is the faster bullet passes through target, so the cavitation cavity may not fully form as bullet goes through target too fast, resulting in multiple hits to knock down target. It is the cavitation cavity and shock that kills as it destroys organs and blood vessels as bullets pass through the 'bag of water' that is the human body, not the 'hole' the bullet makes.