MG42 is overpowered.

[R9]

Guys, the MG42 is just overpowered I played it for three days, no deploying just hip firing and I did pretty well with it. It would be cool if the Russian heros got one because you are going to say the Russians have the PPSH and the SVT, yes. But the German heros get them and the Russian heros don't get a 42, what do you think? I'm talking about hip firing with it only, I rarely deploy it.

[WhiteKnight77]

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

yes we all know MG42 hipfire is op

no there is nothing we can do about it

no TWI doesn't give a single ♥♥♥♥

when you hear an MG42 nearby, throw your grenades first, and if you have anything other than a PPSH, AVT or german machineguns, get the hell out of there

Unless you are sniping and watch where the machine gunner is and put a round through his skull. I had fun doing that yesterday on Bridges. The flash is a giveaway as well as running crouched onto the bridge. :D

[Gromov]

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

yes we all know MG42 hipfire is op

no there is nothing we can do about it

Oh? How about killing the machinegunner?

Or play fair and do not use hip fire. And lose.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Originally posted by Gromov:

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

yes we all know MG42 hipfire is op

no there is nothing we can do about it

Oh? How about killing the machinegunner?

Or play fair and do not use hip fire. And lose.

when said we cant do anythign about it, as we, the playerbase, can't change how the MG42 functions, and cant persuade TWI to change it. the only solution is the IOM, but good luck finding a populated server.

and no, when you come across an mg42 hipfire scumbag in close range killing him is very difficult considering you CANNOT snipe him

[Münster Mike]

If your tactic is to stick your fat head out and try your luck, don't be surprised if someone is waiting for you to expose your meat. No matter what weapon they have, you're bound to get iced. It was your tactical mistake. Then the human tendency is to look for unfairness... was that an MG42? He hip-shot me and it's OP!

If you know he's there, and you know he knows you're there... you better think harder.

At least bank-shot a grenade to distract him before you make your move.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Originally posted by 2.FJgJank-Gefr.:

If your tactic is to stick your fat head out and try your luck, don't be surprised if someone is waiting for you to expose your meat. No matter what weapon they have, you're bound to get iced. It was your tactical mistake. Then the human tendency is to look for unfairness... was that an MG42? He hip-shot me and it's OP!

If you know he's there, and you know he knows you're there... you better think harder.

At least bank-shot a grenade to distract him before you make your move.

A. while you try to wait for him to come he can just run up to you and spray all over your face.

B. the amount of times i got the first shot on the guy, only for him to turn around, kill me instantly with the hipfire and then patch himself up is stupily high

C. he in constatly on the move and always running to getting a good shot on him is very difficult while for him its very easy.

and yes it IS overpowered because the MG42 - a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ support gun out-performs SMG's and because the russian counterparts cannot do so

[IRDCAM]

The trick to countering the MG-42 or any LMG is not to 'attack' it from the front, but to flank it, or in game fire approx 1 in above the HUGE muzzle blast of the MG-42...head shot. Gunners tend to hose down the area rather than 6-9 round bursts. Hell I love 'plinking' with the MG-34 on single shot, accurate as can be and long ranged. The assault stance hip firer is also an easy counter, get him occupied with 'bait' and them pop him from an angle he is not expecting. If you are dieing based on trying to take a LMG, any LMG from the front you are doing it WRONG. Tip for snipers/marksman the enemy LMG's are your primary targets, you know where they will be, put yourself out of his FOF and pop him, if you are shooting BOT's or other humans with then exception of TL's and SL's, you the sniper/marksman are not doing your job and what you are doing if not targeting the LMG's, is also WRONG.

Rire and manuever DISIPLINE from the TEAM attacking a LMG is the key, and if you are defending agains a LMG more of a priority. LMG's can walk around all day killing individuals, but against a co-ordinated FIRE TEAM/Squad not so easy.

[Moos [29th ID]]

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

yes we all know MG42 hipfire is op

no there is nothing we can do about it

no TWI doesn't give a single ♥♥♥♥

when you hear an MG42 nearby, throw your grenades first, and if you have anything other than a PPSH, AVT or german machineguns, get the hell out of there

Or you can be a boss and take it out with a rifle.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Originally posted by PFC Moos 2RB:

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

yes we all know MG42 hipfire is op

no there is nothing we can do about it

no TWI doesn't give a single ♥♥♥♥

when you hear an MG42 nearby, throw your grenades first, and if you have anything other than a PPSH, AVT or german machineguns, get the hell out of there

Or you can be a boss and take it out with a rifle.

pffft amature, real men bash sprayers with their binoculars

[Zidious G]

Ofc it is overpowered, it is the MG42 ;)

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Originally posted by Zidious G:

Ofc it is overpowered, it is the MG42 ;)

MG42 was in a million other games and was always balanced. your statement is stupid

[IRDCAM]

Perceptions rather than reality. If you know how to counter the MG-42 no better or worse than any other LMG in game. The spray and pray FNG MG-42 gunner is easy meat as that sound and muzzle flash gives him up, aim 1 in above flash and it is all over.

[R9]

All answers stating history and "if you know how to counter them", let me tell you something. I don't care about history and no, you can't counter someone who knows how to hip fire and run with the LMG. Trust me, you all stating that it was like that in hitory, no. I'm talking about hip fire here, you obviously don't know this style of play. Watch this guy, I learnt how to hip fire from him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9i1gtJsma0 That's how OP hip fire is, check it out.

[IRDCAM]

Really, it is done all the time in game and on many servers. It is not the end all the MG 42 and hip fire, there are those of us out here that can deal with it and have the skill to counter it. Just because no one you have played as of yet can counter you does not mean it can not happen.

Simple stand off and multiple people engaging you at the same time and you are toast even with the MG-42 hip firing, as you can not shoot everyone at one time, no matter how good you are, and there are folks out here who know how to operate as a TEAM.

As usual someone finds a 'trick' that works and the opposition he faces can not counter it, he thinks he has the end all, look for me and my buds, we will show you how your hip firing running around spraying and praying will get you killed real quick in game. Not all of us out here are 'noobs' and fear the MG42 and the idiot running around with it.

[R9]

I could assure you that an "idiot" with an MG42 that has the muscle memory of hip firing can clear out a whole building single-handedly wihtout a problem, you can go on with the fairy tails that you can counter one of these monsters and how "team play" would stop one, no. I won't agree with you after what I've seen and done with this monster. The MG42 is banned from competetive matches too, do you think they'd ban it if it wasn't OP? Anyway, you probably never encountered a guy that does good with the MG42, running around and destryoing your team. I really rarely deploy an MG when I play one, and I don't play the 42 simply because it's not fun. The MG34 is still a monster when it comes to hip firing but it doesn't shoot that quick.

[IRDCAM]

First he has to get to that building, that is what stand off is all about. And yes we have run into many a run and gun 'good' MG-42 player, and like stated you catch him in the open as you are 'bleeding' out his team using actual stand off tactics and he is no different than a rifleman running to get in the building. He is so used to the people who can not counter him, when he does get even 2 or 3 working as a fire team that does he is lost as all his 'tricks' no longer work.

There are those of us who play the game as Infantryman and not run and gun Call of Duty 16 styled run and gun play. We set up to defend, we actually defend and not attack the attacker, and set up fields of fire and firelanes so your run and gun MG42 player can not get close as he takes fire from multiple directions from troops actuall firing around cover, not over it for all the world to see.

With the proper use of firelanes and interlocking fire from an expierienced group of players and your MG 42 hip firer never gets to that building, and is pinned behind whatever cover he can fire trying to figure out where all the fire is coming from. Also on good teams the marksman actually do their job and target LMG's at a distance rather than sit in the middle as a rifleman with a scope.

Just because group A does not have the talent or skill set to take on this so called magical weapon, does not mean there are not other 'TEAMS' that can and do have the skill set to do so.
And the banning in comp matches should tell you a little about the skill sets of those playing in those matches.