how to get an assault rifle SGT-44

[Krab]

Hi all, help please , anywhere information is not found

[Nequis]

You must be over honour 50 and lv 4 assault if i remember correctly,did it years ago

[coolman552]

You pick the TL role and put a artilleey i mean a "supplydrop" on ur tanks/front lines

[IRDCAM]

Once again, the limits of the education systems and history. It is the MKb 42(H) the pre- StG-44, not the assumed MP-43 or StG-44.

The MkB42(H) was considered a 'machine carbine' no the later term for the StG-44 'Assault Rifle' the 'Sturmgewher'

Arm the lazy with a concept and they assume. And other than a few for evaluation there were no real issue of the MkB42(H) in the game time period Aug 42-Feb 43, and only a total of approximatly 10,000 were ever made, another keep the 'fan boys' in game 'happy' weapon.

[coolman552]

Originally posted by Ilya Trumpkov:

Once again, the limits of the education systems and history. It is the MKb 42(H) the pre- StG-44, not the assumed MP-43 or StG-44.

The MkB42(H) was considered a 'machine carbine' no the later term for the StG-44 'Assault Rifle' the 'Sturmgewher'

Arm the lazy with a concept and they assume. And other than a few for evaluation there were no real issue of the MkB42(H) in the game time period Aug 42-Feb 43, and only a total of approximatly 10,000 were ever made, another keep the 'fan boys' in game 'happy' weapon.

i just call it an ak lol

[76561198193688585]

You need to buy the digital delux edition

[Jagdwyre]

Originally posted by Ilya Trumpkov:

Once again, the limits of the education systems and history. It is the MKb 42(H) the pre- StG-44, not the assumed MP-43 or StG-44.

The MkB42(H) was considered a 'machine carbine' no the later term for the StG-44 'Assault Rifle' the 'Sturmgewher'

Arm the lazy with a concept and they assume. And other than a few for evaluation there were no real issue of the MkB42(H) in the game time period Aug 42-Feb 43, and only a total of approximatly 10,000 were ever made, another keep the 'fan boys' in game 'happy' weapon.

This is like me claiming it is a "limit of the eductation systems" if someone has no idea what the typical visible light transmittence of a typical double pane window is(spoilers; it's often only around 50%).

The point being complaining that people are ignorant on niche information is a very dumb thing to complain about.
And yes, the design and producation history of the Mkb.42 and later the MP43/MP44/STG44 is absolutely niche information. Furthermore complaining about people saying STG/MP vs MKB is borderline arguing semantics. It would be 100% semantics if it wasn't for the design differences between the two, though the intended role of the MKB and the later MP/STG was absolutely the exact same. To fill the role of machinegun and rifle.

[IRDCAM]

Niche information....really. Almost daily in game and here, we hear all the false niche information about the war and the way it was fought and with what. Where is all this false information coming from? The perceptions out number the reality more than not. History is no longer taught the way it was, but far more a revisionist version seems to be taking hold. My generation understood the war far better as our father's fought it, we read and heard the stories first hand, today 'hollywood' teaches the infotainment rather than the reality.

The ability to access information today and then the ability of the 60's when the board and chit wargames became popular just baffles me that players today do not understand the concept of the games along with the why's and hows. The old e-room chats filled with people educating each other on the wars, the battles, and the how's and why's seem to be long gone.

Today players come on board, armed with a 'hollywood' perception and little or no understanding of the reality, and then get frustrated that their perceptions fall short when the do encounter skilled and knowledgable players. So their answer is a demand for more 'toys' to somehow balance their perceptions, hense the MKb42 and MG-42 in game, and the smoke solves all problems in game thinking.

The game replicates combat on the Eastern Front late 42 early 43 pretty well for a game. The combat of the era was pretty brutal, and the weapons were in transition. Infantry Anti-tank was rudimentary, now a perception that the Anti-tank rifle was still a viable option, totally counter to the reality, purely for a 'balance', and educating the less than knowledgable player that the ATR was effective, where then opposite was the reality. We constantly see the what about this or that, again totally out of the realm of the reality, month long battles within the whole overall battle are fought in 45min rather than the months the actual encounters took. And the total lack of comprehension as whole battalions of manpower in game are just sacrificed for the game mechanic.

Understanding the history is the first step to a 'realism' the game states is the goal in 'realism' servers.

[Borderliner]

Originally posted by Ilya Trumpkov:

Niche information....really. Almost daily in game and here, we hear all the false niche information about the war and the way it was fought and with what. Where is all this false information coming from? The perceptions out number the reality more than not. History is no longer taught the way it was, but far more a revisionist version seems to be taking hold. My generation understood the war far better as our father's fought it, we read and heard the stories first hand, today 'hollywood' teaches the infotainment rather than the reality.

The ability to access information today and then the ability of the 60's when the board and chit wargames became popular just baffles me that players today do not understand the concept of the games along with the why's and hows. The old e-room chats filled with people educating each other on the wars, the battles, and the how's and why's seem to be long gone.

Today players come on board, armed with a 'hollywood' perception and little or no understanding of the reality, and then get frustrated that their perceptions fall short when the do encounter skilled and knowledgable players. So their answer is a demand for more 'toys' to somehow balance their perceptions, hense the MKb42 and MG-42 in game, and the smoke solves all problems in game thinking.

The game replicates combat on the Eastern Front late 42 early 43 pretty well for a game. The combat of the era was pretty brutal, and the weapons were in transition. Infantry Anti-tank was rudimentary, now a perception that the Anti-tank rifle was still a viable option, totally counter to the reality, purely for a 'balance', and educating the less than knowledgable player that the ATR was effective, where then opposite was the reality. We constantly see the what about this or that, again totally out of the realm of the reality, month long battles within the whole overall battle are fought in 45min rather than the months the actual encounters took. And the total lack of comprehension as whole battalions of manpower in game are just sacrificed for the game mechanic.

Understanding the history is the first step to a 'realism' the game states is the goal in 'realism' servers.

I agree, but might you come across as a tad arrogant.

[IRDCAM]

It is the age difference, I am a lot older than most here, and not well versed in the new PC ways. I come from a different era and culture, so a lot rougher on the edges than the new gentler, kinder era.

[thebadman]

You have been struck by a Wall of Text and lost 5 hitpoints.

[Existential Dread]

Originally posted by Ilya Trumpkov:

It is the age difference, I am a lot older than most here, and not well versed in the new PC ways. I come from a different era and culture, so a lot rougher on the edges than the new gentler, kinder era.

Most people nowadays are indeed ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ too lazy to make a google search, but here you're just acting like a ♥♥♥♥. Looks like you're just acting mighty because you knew something he did.

Also Red Orchestra isn't really what i would call realistic. Immersive, probably, but not realistic.

[girthquake]

Originally posted by Ilya Trumpkov:

Once again, the limits of the education systems and history. It is the MKb 42(H) the pre- StG-44, not the assumed MP-43 or StG-44.

The MkB42(H) was considered a 'machine carbine' no the later term for the StG-44 'Assault Rifle' the 'Sturmgewher'

Arm the lazy with a concept and they assume. And other than a few for evaluation there were no real issue of the MkB42(H) in the game time period Aug 42-Feb 43, and only a total of approximatly 10,000 were ever made, another keep the 'fan boys' in game 'happy' weapon.

ok so how does this help the guy get the MKB42(H)?

[IRDCAM]

Realistic, no, but can be used as a learning tool of the time and place. And you are right, today it is far more tell me, as I am too lazy to look for myself, and if I (we) don't like the answer someone gives, I (we) will call you (insert insult here). Yes it is a generational thing.

[IRDCAM]

Originally posted by toiletcleanerpro:

Originally posted by Ilya Trumpkov:

Once again, the limits of the education systems and history. It is the MKb 42(H) the pre- StG-44, not the assumed MP-43 or StG-44.

The MkB42(H) was considered a 'machine carbine' no the later term for the StG-44 'Assault Rifle' the 'Sturmgewher'

Arm the lazy with a concept and they assume. And other than a few for evaluation there were no real issue of the MkB42(H) in the game time period Aug 42-Feb 43, and only a total of approximatly 10,000 were ever made, another keep the 'fan boys' in game 'happy' weapon.

ok so how does this help the guy get the MKB42(H)?

A simple search of simular articles concerning the MKb42(H), within this forum, this and many more questions have been asked more than once. Trick is actually knowing what you are searching for "SGT-44' does not exsist.

[thebadman]

All he saw was someone carrying "German assault rifle" Do you really expect him to know exact name if he does not have weapon unlocked? ;P