Question about Red Orchestra 2

[Cyion]

I might be interest in buying this game but I do have one question. In the first red orchestra game certain tanks like the tiger tanks were made not as strong as they should be for the sake of balanced gameplay. Is it the same way in Red Orchestra 2? I really hated that with a passion, would rather see tanks peform the way they actually did in real life and have less tiger tanks or whatever on the map to maintain balanced gameplay.

[Blue Cortex]

....in Ro 2 for tanks .. there's some spots .. where if u shoot those ... (with anti tank gun ...) you need like twice to shoot .. and the tank explodes .. but .. if you hit in other parts .. it's harder to destroy it ... but .. there is engineer class ... who have got some special grenades .. and those can do the job ..

[Cyion]

thanks for the reply but that didn't really answer my question.

[Scrotum Scratcher]

Tank battle servers are mostly dead unless you want to fight AI. Some maps have combined arms, but tanks can be taken down by an experienced AT rifleman in 1-3 shots. Anti tank grenades always destroy a tank if it hits the rear. Tanks are still dangerous, as they have a hull mg and a turret.

[Timska🎉]

Originally posted by BlueCortex:

....in Ro 2 for tanks .. there's some spots .. where if u shoot those ... (with anti tank gun ...) you need like twice to shoot .. and the tank explodes .. but .. if you hit in other parts .. it's harder to destroy it ... but .. there is engineer class ... who have got some special grenades .. and those can do the job ..

AT granates, small throw range though!

[Cyion]

I'm asking if they made the tiger tank less powerful (strength of the armor) than it was in real life to make the tank battles balanced for each team. This is how it was in the first Red Orchestra.

[Jagdwyre]

Originally posted by Cyion:

I'm asking if they made the tiger tank less powerful (strength of the armor) than it was in real life to make the tank battles balanced for each team. This is how it was in the first Red Orchestra.

RO2 doesn't feature the Tiger tank. Both the PzIV and T34 are pretty accurately represented, that is, they can pretty much kill each other pretty easily at typical engagment ranges(extremely close ranges for tank combat) in RO2.

The PzIV typically has a harder time against AT rifles though.

[Cyion]

Originally posted by Jagdwyre:

Originally posted by Cyion:

I'm asking if they made the tiger tank less powerful (strength of the armor) than it was in real life to make the tank battles balanced for each team. This is how it was in the first Red Orchestra.

RO2 doesn't feature the Tiger tank. Both the PzIV and T34 are pretty accurately represented, that is, they can pretty much kill each other pretty easily at typical engagment ranges(extremely close ranges for tank combat) in RO2.

The PzIV typically has a harder time against AT rifles though.

Thank you for your reply your answer does help me out.

[patpatyos]

I love first person tank controls and teamwork

[76]

Originally posted by Jagdwyre:

RO2 doesn't feature the Tiger tank. Both the PzIV and T34 are pretty accurately represented, that is, they can pretty much kill each other pretty easily at typical engagment ranges(extremely close ranges for tank combat) in RO2.

The PzIV typically has a harder time against AT rifles though.

all of this^

[Hollen]

A skilled AT gunner can destroy a panzer 4 frontally with a single shot everytime he steps out of spawn "this has happen to me on pavlos house against a exprienced player". Not only that, the t34 main gun can destroy a panzer 4 without any effort at all, and on maps such as fallen fighters, a t34 can one shot you easily coming out of the spawn, or killing half of your crew. Basicaly, Panzer 4's are camping tanks that cant go 1 on 1 with a t34 while a t34 can stay in the open and shower death and destruction onto anything that stands in its way. In my exprience, going against a t34 and suriving is just pure luck.

But their is a spot on a t34 that will always be a one shot "from my exprienece" and it is towards the rear sides"only works with a Panzer 4". The turrent ring on the t34 is the only real weak point from the front, and i have had mixed results. I did destroy a t34 with a mg32 by firing a burst into the driver port when it was opened, cant say if this common since it was my first time doing such a thing.

As for the apc's, the russian troop carrier has more armor than a m1a2 main battle tank. You could fire a million armor piercing rounds into the thing and it would survive, with HE rounds doing nothing what so ever. The germans were capable of defeating such advanced russian armor tech by using standard satchel charges or AT grenades but the only other way to take it out of action is by killing everyone inside it with bullets. Ive seen russian teams abuse this fact by placing them into choke points on certain maps.


An AT rifle can pentrate through the armor of the german apc and kill anyone in the bullets way and a AP round should destroy it instantly.


In short, this game is utterly biased to the russians when it comes to armor. But we get the mg42 so i quess everythings ok.

[Tigerkadse]

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[IRDCAM]

It is interesting that players can not ID the basic vehicles in the game. Like actual 'Tiger' fear every German tank to them is a 'Tiger'. The 'strange' issues with the APC's Universal Carrier as well as SdKfz 251 being as hard to kill in game is just laughable. A 75 or 76.2 HE round would blow apart these vehicles, they were designed to be fragmentation proof, and bullet proof at range, you hist one with an HE round the blast would seperate the plates, massive concussive spalling inside vehicle looking for something that burned, bled or burned. And the blast effect would concuss anyone in the vehicle. An AP round zipping through would again create a concussive effect as well as spalling and displaced armor fragments of the plate flying around again finding something that burned, bled, or went boom. The universal carrier was a gun carrier not an APC based on had room for only 4 dismounts, they were gun carriers plain and simple.

Both the Germans and Russians used a jacketed 'steel' core bullet in thier small arms, and the 7.92 and 7.62X54R could and did penitrate the light armor facings of the UC as well as SdKfz 251 at close range, and penitrated wood walls and thin stone or brick.

The game has issues, is it Russian centric, not as bad as many believe. There are things that are not reality for sure, but so far best we got out there.

[Fast Johnny]

Yes, yes...all those GIs thinking that all German tanks were Tigers from N. Africa to France....never heard that before.

To the Original Poster:

No, the Tiger tank hasn't been rebalanced, there is no Tiger on any of the maps, only Panzer II and IV for Germans. RO2 isn't like the earlier versions of RO, there are few tanks if any. A couple maps have a tank or two and that is it, basically infantry support roles. It is an infantry game, except for one map that, that is all tanks I can think of but I rarely see it in any rotations. So to answer your question about your big concern over balancing a tank that isn't even in the game...NO.

[patpatyos]

Yeah it would be fun if there was more tank maps then just Gumrak.

Although all the combined arms maps with a tank or a couple and everyone else infantry support are fun as well.

[FoxHound]

Originally posted by Fast Johnny:

only Panzer II and IV for Germans.

Panzer III not II, just saying