On Shadow Bonnie

[susie from undertale]

So nobody seems to really give a crap about who shadow bonnie is, so here's a theory I came up with that explains both his backstory and the story of the minigames.

Shadow bonnie is actually springtrap. That sounds really dumb but let me explain my reasoning behind this. There was another accident with the spring suit before the purple man was killed in it, right? Well, that unfortunate worker who was killed by the suit possessed it like the dead children possessed the original fnaf crew when they were stuffed inside. Fast forward a few years to when the purple man died. Now a new ghost is inside of springtrap and the old one is understandably very confused about this. This would explain the strange motions that springtrap made during the trailer, there's two souls trapped in the same body essentially. After a while, it seems that the ghost of the first one killed by the suit (for convenience, we'll call him Jim) left the body of springtrap. With this, shadow bonnie was born.

Now this is where things start getting complicated if they haven't already. Shadow bonnie manifests itself as, well, a shadow version of springtrap. In the night 5 minigame of fnaf 3, we can see that shadow bonnie existed throughout all of the minigames we have played thus far. Another interesting tidbit is that all of the minigames are focused on animatronics that were NOT possessed(Mangle, BB, Toy Chica, Springtrap(pre accident)). This led me to solve one of the strangest mysteries of fnaf 2: Why do the toy animatronics kill you if they can recognize that you are human? It's because they were possessed by shadow bonnie. And naturally if we come to the conclusion that shadow bonnie is possessing the toy animatronics, we can safely assume that we play as him during the minigames. That wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for golden freddy. Now things get really complex.

There are 3 freddy fazbear's locations not including fredbear's family diner. There's the one we see in fnaf 2, the one in fnaf 1, and one that had only the springtrap and golden freddy animatronics while it was functional. The one with springy dingy and golden fredbear and the one from fnaf 1 were the original locations before the "new" freddy's was built. Phone guy's message detailing that you should never use the spring bonnie suit came after the original accident. We will assume that the children had already died by that time. In the same message as before the phone guy details, "replacement suits" being sent in because of the accident. Springtrap was the only animatronic to feature spring locks, so it would make sense that the location would keep the golden freddy suit. In short, on "Stage 01" we can see the real golden freddy and a replacement springtrap.

Now let's get down to the interesting bit, what is the meaning behind the minigames in fnaf 3. I'm talking specifically about the secret ones not the inbetween night ones. If we can assume that the events in the minigames are all heavily laced with metaphor (which, let's face it, they are) then they all boil down to this, "This ghost of a child is brought to peace by the one who inhabits the mangle". If this is true, then we already know what that answer gives us. Shadow Bonnie is the one who brought the children to rest and created the good ending. That doesn't mean he's not a malevolent entity, oh no. He wants to help the kids accept their deaths but he really does not like the restraunt that killed him. This is why he possesses the toy animatronics and even manifests himself to attempt to kill Jeremy Fitzgerald. This is also why he possessed an animatronic to bite a child in the head. That's right, Shadow Bonnie caused the bite of '87 by posessing a toy animatronic and biting a kid's head.

There's one problem with this theory though. It's completely out of time, right? The between night minigames in fnaf 3 happened after fnaf 1, right? Purple man died after fnaf 1! No, there's nothing that supports that. People just assumed that the minigames happened after fnaf 1, but in reality they occur before fnaf 2. It makes sense. The old freddy's was left to rot in favor of the new location. This would be the perfect time for purple man to come destroy the evidence of his crimes, as he does in the minigames. No, wait. That doesn't make sense because the original cast was destroyed in the minigames and in fnaf 2 they are present in the store room. Well it's simple. Once management learned that the old animatronics could still walk around they just shipped them back to the original location to be stored with springtrap. This sounds like a crackpot theory with no evidence right? Well I have some evidence right here. The varying designs of golden freddy between fnaf 2 and fnaf 1 indicate that he had to be remade between the games. This also explains why the designs of the older animatronics vary so much between fnaf 2 and 1. It also explains how they could be destroyed between fnaf 2 and 1.

I don't really have a snappy ending for this theory, but there ya go. Shadow Bonnie everyone.

[Rydi]

You seriously need to replay the games and pay closer attention to the little details man.

Originally posted by Official Illuminati:

There's nothing in the message indicating it was a different animatronic. From what we know there is only 1 Spring Bonnie suit. There were the original 5 suits at one location and another 2(Springtrap and Golden Freddy) at the other. No I don't think they would remove the body (See the dead children staying in their suits for upwards of 10 years) and even if they did I think Shadow Bonnie would still haunt the suit he was killed in.

I repeat, Phone guy says this "Uhm, so. After learning of an unfortunate incident at the SISTER LOCATION involving multiple and simultaneous spring lock failures, the company has deemed the suits temporarily unfit for employees" - Phone Guy"

At the sister location they had spring-lock suits like in the restaurant Phone guy worked in. Now this begs the question: ¿If Shadow Bonnie was the employee that died at the sister location (like Phone Guy suggests) from a spring lock failure... How can the same animatronic with the same corpse/spirit be in Phone Guy's restaurant? It can't be at the sister location and at OUR location at the same time.

Now, don't compare real children's bodies in non-wearable animatronics to human sized bodies in a wearable animatronic. First, the children were stuffed inside the non-wearable animatronics to hide them, nobody knew they were there so of course they could spend years upon years inside without anyone finding out. But the wereable animatronic causing someone to die is TOO OBVIOUS not to notice, the eyes plucking out, the blood pool, they even tell you to maneuver away from crowded areas to not bother customers with your agonic death. They knew the employee died or was heavily injured because of the springlocks so they must have had to disassemble the animatronic suit to recover the corpse or to take the wounded employee to hospital in case he miraculously survived.

But even if he had died there and nobody had found out, don't you think Purple Man couldn't have possibly worn a hybrid suit WITH A CORPSE INSIDE?? There's not enough room there for two bodies! Furthermore, when we see SpringTrap up close we can only see one corpse and not two, as there should be if your theory of Shadow Bonnie was correct.

Originally posted by Official Illuminati:

Aside from that, why would they try to kill you even if your face was matched to a criminal?They show us that the being that inhabits the Mangle is comforting the children and whatnot. In the final minigame we see who that being was.

Again, the other nightguard tampered with their systems, so apart from making them recognize you as a criminal he could have also programmed them to attack criminals as they do during the nights AND as they do when they see Jeremy in the day shift, causing him the bite of 87. The theory that Shadow Bonnie haunts them is unbased and doesn't make sense.
I ask you once more, why would Shadow Bonnie haunt the animatronics to comfort the kids when he can jump across minigames and comfort them all himself? Also, why does he only use Mangle, BB and and Toy Chica? Does he hate the rest of animatronics? Furthermore, in the Stage 01 minigame we see Golden Freddy comforting a child and we know that one of the children was stuffed into and then haunted Golden Freddy, is Shadow Bonnie also "double haunting" Golden Freddy in that minigame?

Originally posted by Official Illuminati:

Originally posted by Rydi1689:

No, this does not make any sense because if Purple man died before FNAF 2, who killed the second set of children??? http://freddy-fazbears-pizza.wikia.com/wiki/File:Death-minigame-map.gif If you think there's a second murderer, who is he and what proof do you have to back it up?

What second set of children? There was one kid and then 5. No second murderer.

Did you not even bother looking at the image I linked? It's from one of the minigames in FNAF 2 in which you move throughout FNAF 2's building at night as Freddy and you can find FIVE CORPSES spread out in different rooms.
Along the minigame you can find golden freddy on the floor and when you get close to him his eyes sparkle in white and he disappears.
This happens during FNAF 2 as judging by the presence of the Toy Animatronics in the show stage, the presence of the dismantled old models in the Parts & Service room, the Puppet box at Prize Corner and the Mangle at Kid's cove (and the layout map is exactly the one in FNAF 2).

Five more children were murdered in FNAF 2, that's the second "set" of murders. The first kid died in Fredbear's Family Diner (The Puppet), then a set of five children were murdered before FNAF 2 and stuffed into the old animatronics (Freddy, GF, Foxy, Chica and Bonnie) and in FNAF 2 the second set of kids (aka the extra five children that we see in the minigame I linked) were murdered. Their bodies weren't stuffed into any animatronic as the toy animatronics don't have space in their bodies to contain a child's body, and we don't know if their souls posessed the toy animatronics or not. If they did, they probably were released when the toy models were scrapped by the end of FNAF 2. Take a look at the photo again: http://freddy-fazbears-pizza.wikia.com/wiki/File:Death-minigame-map.gif

Originally posted by Official Illuminati:

There's a simple reason as to why they shipped off the older cast. They thought they were closing for good. They didn't think that they were gonna reopen anytime soon. When they did decide to reopen they saw the broken animatronics and had to remake them, hence the second designs.

You can keep making stuff up, the real evidence will prove you wrong again and again. The FNAF 2's newspaper disproves your theory that they thought they were closing for good:

The CEO of the company clearly says "This is a minor setback, we're confident we'll reopen someday even if it's with a much smaller budget" - https://38.media.tumblr.com/b3a7b3563d1f733b1ecb823085b84857/tumblr_inline_nexq5iOSaC1rzpexs.jpg

However, when they close for good in FNAF 1 the CEO says the following:

"These characters will live on. In the hearts of kids, these characters will live on" - http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140825043805/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/6/6a/Freddy%27s_Pizza%27s_Dark_Truth.png (last newspaper clipping)

Don't you see the difference in the mood of both statements? The one in FNAF 2 gives room for a likely reopening in the near future whereas the one in FNAF 1 sounds a lot more ULTIMATE. They never reopened after FNAF1. And the game proves the old animatronics were never shipped anywhere. So yeah, you can make stuff up but we're not that gullible.

Originally posted by Official Illuminati:

I think the saferooms were boarded up before fnaf 1

But Phone Guy claims the saferoom was going to be boarded up that very same day, a couple of days after the Spring Lock failures. If what you are suggesting is that the saferoom was boarded up after FNAF 2 when they returned to FNAF 1... How do you explain that time-gap?

[susie from undertale]

I'm not going to quote the post because it's really long but here's my rebuttal.

1. The sister location thing and the double springtraps. So according to you, there are 2 springtrap suits. 1 is at the regular location and 1 is at a sister location. If that's correct, the possibility now exists that Shadow Bonnie is simply the spirit of the one who died in the other springtrap suit. I've said before that he can inhabit whoever he wants to, so maybe it isn't the same springtrap. That would explain the whole dead body problems. The actual body is in the sister location, not the one we know and love. Thanks for explaining that.

2. The toy animatronic things. So the nightguard tampered with the toy animatronics and that's why they kill you. They also are what bit Jeremy Fitzgereld. Fair enough, but why would they not attack children and other people? Why do only the staff get attacked if the animatronics were tampered with? Moving on to the minigames I say again, "The minigames are heavily metaphorical." Shadow Bonnie didn't inhabit Mangle, BB, Chica, and Golden Freddy just to comfort the children. The minigames simply show us that the one who inhabits those animatronics is comforting the children, and that being is Shadow Bonnie.

3. Double haunting. As you said, sister location. The sister location has a golden freddy and a springtrap. The golden freddy there is not possessed by anyone as far as we know.

4. Second Set. What minigame exactly is that picture from? I do not remember a minigame taking place in Fnaf 2's pizzeria. It has been a while since I played Fnaf 2, though.

5. Storage. Fine. Management wasn't planning to close forever. You got me there, but the possibility still exists that the animatronics were put back in the original location after the events of Fnaf 2. You haven't offered any other possibilities as to where they went after Fnaf 2. Did they just stay there?

6. Boarding up. I stand by my previous statement. The saferoom was boarded up after the spring lock failures with Springtrap inside, and then again once management returned to find it opened.

[Rydi]

The minigame happens in FNAF 2 and you can play it when you die in FNAF 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWI4ck9CAPw

If shadow bonnie died at the sister location, why would he take revenge on a different restaurant altogether? We know the restaurant before FNAF 2 had sister locations, so it'd be more reasonable to think that the spirit of Shadow Bonnie remained in that location (we don't know if they closed as well) or if they closed and reopened again, that Shadow Bonnie would chase them instead of moving to FNAF 2's restaurant. But it doesn't matter because there's no proof that shadow bonnie is the guy who died in the sister location. But now that we mention sister locations, if you're implying that shadow bonnie possessed the sister location's Golden Freddy to comfort a child... why would he haunt a different animatronic from a different location to avenge the kids that died at a different location as well? What would prompt Shadow Bonnie to go to another restaurant to comfort kids he didn't even know had died? It really doesn't make much sense.

I didn't provide any possibility as to where they were sent because I told you they weren't sent anywhere. The animatronics that contained the corpses of the children were to be retrofitted with newer technology and also somewhat redesigned, but they eventually found them not to be very kid friendly and they smelled awfully so they left them half dismantled and decided to use them for parts in the new restaurant. They are the dismantled Freddy, Foxy, Chica and Bonnie that we see in the Parts & Service room in FNAF 2 ( http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/326/a/8/parts_and_service_room_by_cilandpfangirl-d879tlc.png see bonnie, chica and freddy there? those are the animatronics you think were shipped to the old location). They were not sent anywhere. They are in FNAF 2 all along. And when FNAF 2 closed its doors and they opened in FNAF 1 they had no other option but to repair the dismantled animatronics from FNAF 2 (that were the ones with the children's souls and corpses) and due to the repairings and fixings they look slightly different than they did in FNAF 2.

The saferoom couldn't have been reopened in between FNAF 2 and FNAF 1 because that restaurant had no animatronics except for Spring Bonnie. For Purple man to open the saferoom, dismantle the animatronics and die inside Spring Bonnie, Freddy, Foxy, Chica and Bonnie HAD to be there, but they weren't, because they were taken to FNAF 2's restaurant when it opened. So yeah, no animatronics in the restaurant = Purple man didn't die then.

[susie from undertale]

First off let me clarify my original point. The old animatronics were present in Fnaf 2. This we see from that screenshot. What I'm saying is that they were put back in the old location AFTER Fnaf 2.

Who is to say that Shadow Bonnie didn't haunt the sister location as well? If he wanted vengeance on the pizzeria, I don't see why he wouldn't cause trouble at all the locations instead of just 1. Really, we know very little about the sister locations aside from that someone died there in a Springtrap suit.

You seem to not be physically capable of reading the words, "The minigames are a metaphor." For the last time. The minigames show us that the being behind all of the animatronics shown is the one who comforted the children. Mangle did not go searching for his limbs when the restaurant was closed one day. Balloon Boy did not go on a platforming adventure. It's a metaphor, and in the last minigame we are shown who is behind all of them.

The minigame you showed was very strange, but I don't think it means there was another set of dead children(although that may be the case). I think it shows that the events still haunt the location and chain.

[Rydi]

They were put back there after FNAF 2 when they reopened in FNAF 1 and not before, you don't send functional and repaired animatronics (in the minigame they are fixed and not dismantled) to a restaurant that is full of rats and has water leaking through the rooftop. Sorry but it makes no sense at all to send them to a place so rotten that it would make your brand new animatronics rot as well, especially when you're low on budget and wouldn't be able to afford to clean and repair them again. The animatronics were left to rot in the FNAF 1 restaurant after it closed for good after FNAF 1 because they had no hopes of reopening the restaurant and had nothing else to do with the animatronics. If you don't want to believe it that's your own business. I don't believe your theory either so we're even.

We know too little about shadow bonnie to claim anything at all. You don't even have proof that the spring lock failure in the sister location caused someone to die. It's easy to assume someone died but we have no official confirmation, heck, we could even assume that many people died since Phone Guy says there were "multiple and simultaneous spring lock failures". There should be an army of Shadow Bonnies going around then.

Of course I know the games are metaphors, I knew they were metaphors even before you wrote this mess of a theory. What I'm trying to get you to understand is that there is no proof that Shadow Bonnie "was behind it all", is that what you want to think? Be my guest, but until you have solid evidence that proves it I will think it's nonsense.

Ok, whatever floats your boat, if you don't want to believe there were five extra dead children it's also up to you. But then, what do you make of the "Happiest day" minigame having the 5 original haunted animatronics + the puppet + 5 other unknown children? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpfj2fqWIiw

[susie from undertale]

Well, now that you showed me that there are two spring bonnie suits, there no longer would be any issue with the minigames happening after fnaf 1. Since Shadow Bonnie is the other Springtrap at the sister location, the point is moot. The minigames inbetween theory was based on logic that you proved to be false. So, fine. The suits were not sent to the original pizzeria.

I do have proof that someone died in the springlock failure. In every single explainiation of the springlock mechanisms, phone guy explicitly states that you will die if they fail. Aaaaand they failed at the sister location, all the ones in the suit at once. There wouldn't be an army of shadow bonnies because there was only one springtrap suit. If multiple suits failed at once, that would be an explaination for shadow freddy as well as shadow bonnie.

Shadow Bonnie being behind all the minigames is quite clearly shown. In his minigame you travel through all of the previous ones, indicating that Shadow Bonnie was present in all of them.