Wired Link?

[Bagingi]

Wouldn't we be able to use quest headsets wired to your PC without using wifi? If so that would be amazing because since I use intel integrated graphics I can't connect it to the oculus app and *then* to SteamVR.

[Omega]

+1

[Stwong Dave]

Originally posted by ElderMonk:

The amount of misinformation here is disappointing.
Oculus link allows you to use a usb 3.0 cable to connect a Quest 2 or Quest 3 to your computer to stream VR. You have to allow permissions on the quest 2 to connect to your machine, open Oculus link and then open steam from your mirrored desktop.
QUEST AIR LINK and STEAM LINK are different. They work over wifi and require your computer to be connected via Ethernet (wired) to your router. They won't even open unless you meet all the criteria.
The reason I know this (and I know certain people are making stuff up) is that I just bought the quest 2 for $249 on amazon and a 16ft USB 3.0 cable so I could mess with it. Yes, It does work. It's a pain, but it works.

The Defensive Butcher was 100% right.

This. Just do this.

[Deadpixel]

Originally posted by ElderMonk:

The amount of misinformation here is disappointing.
Oculus link allows you to use a usb 3.0 cable to connect a Quest 2 or Quest 3 to your computer to stream VR. You have to allow permissions on the quest 2 to connect to your machine, open Oculus link and then open steam from your mirrored desktop.
QUEST AIR LINK and STEAM LINK are different. They work over wifi and require your computer to be connected via Ethernet (wired) to your router. They won't even open unless you meet all the criteria.
The reason I know this (and I know certain people are making stuff up) is that I just bought the quest 2 for $249 on amazon and a 16ft USB 3.0 cable so I could mess with it. Yes, It does work. It's a pain, but it works.

The Defensive Butcher was 100% right.

You seem to be confused. It's not about how to use SteamVR with the Quest Link but how to not have to use Quest Link. Meaning Meta Quest Link doesn't even need to be running, purely Steam Link -> Steam VR using a cable instead of wifi

[ElderMonk]

Originally posted by Deadpixel:

Originally posted by ElderMonk:

The amount of misinformation here is disappointing.
Oculus link allows you to use a usb 3.0 cable to connect a Quest 2 or Quest 3 to your computer to stream VR. You have to allow permissions on the quest 2 to connect to your machine, open Oculus link and then open steam from your mirrored desktop.
QUEST AIR LINK and STEAM LINK are different. They work over wifi and require your computer to be connected via Ethernet (wired) to your router. They won't even open unless you meet all the criteria.
The reason I know this (and I know certain people are making stuff up) is that I just bought the quest 2 for $249 on amazon and a 16ft USB 3.0 cable so I could mess with it. Yes, It does work. It's a pain, but it works.

The Defensive Butcher was 100% right.

You seem to be confused. It's not about how to use SteamVR with the Quest Link but how to not have to use Quest Link. Meaning Meta Quest Link doesn't even need to be running, purely Steam Link -> Steam VR using a cable instead of wifi

I think the source of the confusion is that there are 2 devices that are capable of being connected wireless or wired. Steam Link recommends a wired Ethernet connection but is wireless to the Oculus Quest. To connect your computer via USB-C to your computer Quest Link is required since quest link loads the drivers to stream video to the quest over USB-C.
I tested this by connecting my quest 2 to my laptop via USB-C starting the steam link app and after it loads pulling the USB connection. The connection stayed up since the Quest was connected via wifi. If you try that with Quest Link, you just lose connection and quest dumps you back to its home page.
I personally prefer a wired USB-C connection using Quest Link because wifi bandwidth is limited and shared with other devices. If you connect completely wired, you use 100% of the USB-C ports bandwidth for the Quest.
Sorry for the long response, but I've seen the "how do i do pc vr without quest software" too many times. The short answer is you don't. Either you run steam link to stream video meta quest operating system over wifi (Android) or you use meta quest link to stream it over USB-C

[The Defective Butcher]

Originally posted by ElderMonk:

Originally posted by Deadpixel:

You seem to be confused. It's not about how to use SteamVR with the Quest Link but how to not have to use Quest Link. Meaning Meta Quest Link doesn't even need to be running, purely Steam Link -> Steam VR using a cable instead of wifi

I think the source of the confusion is that there are 2 devices that are capable of being connected wireless or wired. Steam Link recommends a wired Ethernet connection but is wireless to the Oculus Quest. To connect your computer via USB-C to your computer Quest Link is required since quest link loads the drivers to stream video to the quest over USB-C.
I tested this by connecting my quest 2 to my laptop via USB-C starting the steam link app and after it loads pulling the USB connection. The connection stayed up since the Quest was connected via wifi. If you try that with Quest Link, you just lose connection and quest dumps you back to its home page.
I personally prefer a wired USB-C connection using Quest Link because wifi bandwidth is limited and shared with other devices. If you connect completely wired, you use 100% of the USB-C ports bandwidth for the Quest.
Sorry for the long response, but I've seen the "how do i do pc vr without quest software" too many times. The short answer is you don't. Either you run steam link to stream video meta quest operating system over wifi (Android) or you use meta quest link to stream it over USB-C

+1 I think the Quest Link is pretty great if you use it as a wired connection. Any time I've ever used wireless, the bitrate crashes hard even though I've got a decent connection (300 MBPS download and 20 MBPS upload). There's always so many dropped frames, lowest bitrate I've ever seen on a streaming software, and just a generally unpleasant experience. I really wish Steam Link supported USB connectivity just because that is the superior way to play, and being honest, I really don't mind wires, most headset accessories come with some form of cable management to run wires behind you, anyway. But none of this matters I guess, I can't play VR anyway, Meta and Intel won't work together for some reason because the Arcs still aren't supported.

[Klen]

Originally posted by ElderMonk:

Steam Link recommends a wired Ethernet connection but is wireless to the Oculus Quest.

That's the point. This thread is a request to make Steam Link work over USB instead of Wi-Fi.
But compared to usual Oculus Link setup: Quest > Oculus Link > Oculus Dash > SteamVR > Game
With Steam Link it looks like this: Quest > Steam Link > SteamVR > Game
Saving you some VRAM and computing power in the process

[ElderMonk]

Originally posted by Masu:

Originally posted by ElderMonk:

Steam Link recommends a wired Ethernet connection but is wireless to the Oculus Quest.

That's the point. This thread is a request to make Steam Link work over USB instead of Wi-Fi.
But compared to usual Oculus Link setup: Quest > Oculus Link > Oculus Dash > SteamVR > Game
With Steam Link it looks like this: Quest > Steam Link > SteamVR > Game
Saving you some VRAM and computing power in the process

The Quest Application is called Steam Link and its WiFi only.
The thread is literally called "Wired Link"
Seriously... go look.
This is why this whole discussion is a mess
You literally can't go Quest> Steam Link > Steam VR > Game
Its not a thing

[Warmotor]

I'm still waiting for a way to play my Quest3 on PC without running BOTH SteamVR and Oculus Link. It's a bunch of unnecessary overhead, and SteamVR games run worse than native Oculus versions, always. Is anyone even working on this?

[Gatorz]

Originally posted by Cosmosis:

This would be super useful for us in our research lab. Our data visualization software relies on SteamVR, so Steam Link is a welcome alternative for more directly accessing our software from a Quest. However, the university wifi is not reliable, so a cabled option would be essential.

The quest supports USB Ethernet adapters, I suggest giving it a shot

[Gatorz]

Originally posted by Warmotor:

I'm still waiting for a way to play my Quest3 on PC without running BOTH SteamVR and Oculus Link. It's a bunch of unnecessary overhead, and SteamVR games run worse than native Oculus versions, always. Is anyone even working on this?

ALVR. https://github.com/alvr-org/ALVR/wiki/ALVR-wired-setup-(ALVR-over-USB)

[That Box]

Originally posted by ElderMonk:

The amount of misinformation here is disappointing.
Oculus link allows you to use a usb 3.0 cable to connect a Quest 2 or Quest 3 to your computer to stream VR. You have to allow permissions on the quest 2 to connect to your machine, open Oculus link and then open steam from your mirrored desktop.
QUEST AIR LINK and STEAM LINK are different. They work over wifi and require your computer to be connected via Ethernet (wired) to your router. They won't even open unless you meet all the criteria.
The reason I know this (and I know certain people are making stuff up) is that I just bought the quest 2 for $249 on amazon and a 16ft USB 3.0 cable so I could mess with it. Yes, It does work. It's a pain, but it works.

The Defensive Butcher was 100% right.

I believe the reason so many people were curious about it is due to performance. I've used Quest wifi link, direct link via USB 3.0, and now Steam Link, and all 3 have differing affects of quality and control.

I personally found myself here to help a friend. I use a Quest 2, but after a update earlier this year direct link and wifi connecting has been running rather poorly on anything that isn't using XR (some devs are recommending Steam Link over direct link because of this). However, using Steam Link, I find amazing results (at a slightly lower resolution) that might perform better than the Quest 2 ever did even before the update that caused problems.

TL;DR Steam Link is amazing, assuming you have good internet, compared to what directly connecting your headset to your PC can provide at this time. many people are wondering if they could use it in a USB mode since Meta is not resolving our issues.

[ElderMonk]

Originally posted by That Box:

Originally posted by ElderMonk:

The amount of misinformation here is disappointing.
Oculus link allows you to use a usb 3.0 cable to connect a Quest 2 or Quest 3 to your computer to stream VR. You have to allow permissions on the quest 2 to connect to your machine, open Oculus link and then open steam from your mirrored desktop.
QUEST AIR LINK and STEAM LINK are different. They work over wifi and require your computer to be connected via Ethernet (wired) to your router. They won't even open unless you meet all the criteria.
The reason I know this (and I know certain people are making stuff up) is that I just bought the quest 2 for $249 on amazon and a 16ft USB 3.0 cable so I could mess with it. Yes, It does work. It's a pain, but it works.

The Defensive Butcher was 100% right.

I believe the reason so many people were curious about it is due to performance. I've used Quest wifi link, direct link via USB 3.0, and now Steam Link, and all 3 have differing affects of quality and control.

I personally found myself here to help a friend. I use a Quest 2, but after a update earlier this year direct link and wifi connecting has been running rather poorly on anything that isn't using XR (some devs are recommending Steam Link over direct link because of this). However, using Steam Link, I find amazing results (at a slightly lower resolution) that might perform better than the Quest 2 ever did even before the update that caused problems.

TL;DR Steam Link is amazing, assuming you have good internet, compared to what directly connecting your headset to your PC can provide at this time. many people are wondering if they could use it in a USB mode since Meta is not resolving our issues.

Except you can't use Steam Link in USB mode... It's WiFi only.
I don't know where ppl are getting the idea that Valve can hack in their own usb mode on meta hardware

[Slaya]

Originally posted by ElderMonk:

Originally posted by That Box:

I believe the reason so many people were curious about it is due to performance. I've used Quest wifi link, direct link via USB 3.0, and now Steam Link, and all 3 have differing affects of quality and control.

I personally found myself here to help a friend. I use a Quest 2, but after a update earlier this year direct link and wifi connecting has been running rather poorly on anything that isn't using XR (some devs are recommending Steam Link over direct link because of this). However, using Steam Link, I find amazing results (at a slightly lower resolution) that might perform better than the Quest 2 ever did even before the update that caused problems.

TL;DR Steam Link is amazing, assuming you have good internet, compared to what directly connecting your headset to your PC can provide at this time. many people are wondering if they could use it in a USB mode since Meta is not resolving our issues.

Except you can't use Steam Link in USB mode... It's WiFi only.
I don't know where ppl are getting the idea that Valve can hack in their own usb mode on meta hardware

Because the open source ALVR offers a wired method

[ElderMonk]

Then use ALVR
Why is this a Valve/Steam problem?

[Slaya]

People want all the things that Virtual Desktop, ALVR & Quest link offer in Steam link VR so they have one thing to use.

*Shrugs* I personally use Virtual Desktop. Steam link VR wasn't my jam