Overheating Modem/Router

[Chargeit]

Figured I'd post a word of warning...

I've been using my Link with good success playing Fallout 4.

After some time I started getting really poor/laggish streaming. I checked the link and it was barely warm to the touch.

I checked my PC and it running normal temps. The fps was a steady 60. CPU usage, Ram usage, all vitals good with lots of room to spare.

I touched my modem and notice it was very hot.

I was able to adjust the position of it. The cable guy had laid it flat. Looking at the modem it's meant to be stood up right. Luckily standing it upright seemed to fix the overheating issues for me atm. I will however look into add a fan or something to help with general airflow around it.


Point being, if you suffer from unexplained performance issues while streaming make sure it isn't something simple like an overheating router or modem.

[Chargeit]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pendolinobasher:

Guys it's a simple question how does it get set up where does the cable go from the box exactly

You can run it wireless or over Ethernet.

Plug the link into your router. Plug your computer into the same router.


Found this...

https://youtu.be/VgzWUzDDOA4

[Greg]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pendolinobasher:

Guys it's a simple question how does it get set up where does the cable go from the box exactly

It's a simple question with a simple answer, which I gave you. I'm not even going to get into the part about how you're hijacking this guys thread about his personal modem problems to ask a question that would take a *simple* search to yield a result.

the link goes into your router

If it shows any hint of problems I'll ship it back. At worse it's a minor inconvenience. At best I get a fairly high end feature rich router for a lowish price.

If it comes down to that I would HIGHLY recommend this router. It's even about the same price as what you paid for the nighthawk on sale.

http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC68U-Wireless-AC1900-Dual-Band-Gigabit-Router/dp/B00FB45SI4

[Chargeit]

If the Netgear gives me issues I'll return it and look into that Asus.

[Chargeit]

I ran that cat 7. Ended up short on my run to the living room. Pretty much have a bout 6" sticking out on both ends. I did not account for running the wire through the floor and insulation causing me to lose some wire every few feet.

What I'm doing is connecting that switch I ordered the other day in my computer room. On the living room side I'm going to toss in a 5 port switch. Will allow me to connect everything in my entertainment area by Ethernet.

Looking like so. I keep a bookcase here which will cover up the switch/outlet. My modem and router will go on top of it.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=562550156

Pretty cool getting a little home network setup. I never really put much thought into it in the past.

I drilled through the toe kick. Figured I can patch it in later if I want to remove the cabling.

The modem/router gets here Friday. I'm guessing the other switch should be here Monday.

[Greg]

Yeah I always have the same issue running cables. I'll measure everything cut the cable and end up 3 feet short. To be honest if you're going to be running your own cables like that the cheapest solution is to go to home depot and get a 250' spool of CAT6 for $20-30. You can also get the crimper/cutter with the terminating jacks in a kit for another $20-30. Thats usually enough to wire a house up.

Edit: Guess it's been a while since I picked up a spool. 100' for $30 is the price on homedepot.com right now

$23 for 250' of cat5e though which should be more than sufficient-
http://www.amazon.com/Sewell-Direct-SW-29875-252-SolidRun-250-Feet/dp/B00HSSMMYY/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1448504731&sr=1-2&keywords=cat5E+bulk+250-foot

[Chargeit]

Wouldn't of been a bad idea to pick up a spool. A little late for it now since I've got all the wiring I need and then some. Luckily my computer room is right between the two rooms I wanted to run Ethernet to. My living room and the bedroom. It's in the middle of the house and a good spot to run a network from both wireless and wired.

[Chargeit]

Got the modem/router in today and hooked up. Still don't have the other switch to connect my link. Other then that I suffered early disconnects. I followed suggestions I read and disabled "Beamforming". Have not suffered a disconnect since.

Currently streaming Netflix wireless on 2 devices. Streaming youtube on my tablet and downloading a game on Steam. I connected every wireless device short of the link up to the wireless.

Everything's running smoothly so far. Basic net usage doesn't seem overly affected by all the streaming/downloading happening.

[Greg]

I followed suggestions I read and disabled "Beamforming"

That is terrible. Beamforming is actually a great technology that should increase signal strength while also decreasing the amount of bad transfers. I hate to say it (and sound like a hater) but this would be a great example of why I wouldn't buy Netgear. Beamforming works great on the Asus router.

If you're happy with it though and the stream works flawlessly then there's no need to fix anything.

[Chargeit]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από < Greg:

I followed suggestions I read and disabled "Beamforming"

That is terrible. Beamforming is actually a great technology that should increase signal strength while also decreasing the amount of bad transfers. I hate to say it (and sound like a hater) but this would be a great example of why I wouldn't buy Netgear. Beamforming works great on the Asus router.

If you're happy with it though and the stream works flawlessly then there's no need to fix anything.

Waiting on the living room network switch before testing out Steam streaming again.

Not too worried about Beamforming. Our house is single story 1,200 sq feet. As long as I can pick up a good signal within the walls and in the yard i'm happy with it. Really doesn't take much of a router to cover it.

[Chargeit]

I might of been wrong about the beamforming. I think it was settings I was messing with that caused the DC. Testing it out again and not seeming to have connection issues.

Still, not a huge deal as long as I get strong signal in the house and yard.

Will have to test it some more and see what happens. Also going to test to see how far out I can get a usable connection.

*The QoS seems to work really well. That's a huge deal for me since I do a lot of downloading and my ol'lady plays her mmo all the time.

[deemon]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από < Greg:

I followed suggestions I read and disabled "Beamforming"

That is terrible. Beamforming is actually a great technology that should increase signal strength while also decreasing the amount of bad transfers. I hate to say it (and sound like a hater) but this would be a great example of why I wouldn't buy Netgear. Beamforming works great on the Asus router.

If you're happy with it though and the stream works flawlessly then there's no need to fix anything.

I have no clue about Beamforming specifically, but some protocols and techniques are quite CPU demanding. Like first generation home user AP-s that allowed WPA/WPA2 encryption, doing so, lost like big chunks of their bandwidth and caused massive lag increase. Just because the software allows new techniques, does not mean the hardware is always suitable for this. Prime example from my own experience was one Zyxel firewall/router, ZyWALL USG 100, that in theory had 100Mbit throughput, in reality, if you enabled all security features on it (IDS / firewall / anomaly-detection / virus-scan / whatever else was there) the actual throughput fell to somewhere 12Mbit/s. HORRIBLE experience, just because although on paper it had all the features, hardware was not good enough. Also my WD HDTV Live mediaplayer (advertised as with USB wifi dongle support (encryption is still done on device CPU, not in dongle) - tried like MANY different wifi dongles from various manufacturers) failed to play over wifi with WPA2 anything with more than standard resolution - just disabling WPA2 made huge difference... and you could already play 720p movies, 1080p was still very laggy. If you swapped wifi out entirely for wired, then it could easily play 1080p without any problems. It's like trying to sell you humvee with 300cc motorcycle motor - does it have better protection that bike? sure; does it allow more people to sit in? sure; can you mount chaingun to the roof? why not; does it even move with this load? maybe crawls in 1st gear :-D

[Chargeit]

I did a test. I was able to pull my connection at 166' (measured using google earth) from my router. I pulled 27ms / 77.06 mbps / 12.00 mbps at this distance. There seemed to be a step cut off becauseI when I went further out I was not able to test the connection. I did pick up the signal. This is over double the distance I would ever expect to use my wireless connection.

This was using beamforming. I'll test it without later.

*Normal wireless (inside of home) speeds are more like 105 mbps / 23 mbps on this device. Wired speeds are 236 mbps / 26 mbps.

[Greg]

I don't think beam forming is a "CPU based technique" it requires entirely too much precision to do with a purely software approach. Beam Forming kind of works the same way that MRSI works (Multiple Round simultaneous impact artillery). The gun will fire each round at slightly different power and slightly different elevations in order to make each round hit at the exact same time.

Your router is doing the same thing but not by modulating the "power", by modulating when each individual antennae transmits. By transmitting the same piece of information over multiple antennas with a slight pre-calculated delay between each antenna. This causes the radio waves to actually increase significantly in strength on the receiving end by making sure that each transmission hits the receiver at the exact same time.

There seemed to be a step cut off becauseI when I went further out I was not able to test the connection. I did pick up the signal. This is over double the distance I would ever expect to use my wireless connection

You're most likely hitting the limits of your computers hardware to transmit back to your router. 2.4 Ghz can travel for miles.

[Chargeit]

Ah yea. I was on 5Ghz, not 2.4Ghz. Have to test that also. I'm testing on my Nexus 2013. Any way, it seems to be more then enough for my current needs.

Have some more cords coming in so I can get everything ran comfortably. For instance the Ethernet cable running from the router to my computer barely reaches right now.

Going to hook the link back up when the cables come in. I want all black or dark blue cables ran to keep it nice looking.

[Chargeit]

Here's a picture. I moved all the networking gear onto a shelf. I mounted the business line modem to the wall behind the shelf. The small router on the right is for the business line. I put a fan on the right to keep airflow in the area.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=566526224