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You didn't explain what adapter you are using, nor did you explain what monitor you are using.
Just what threat are you expecting from LAN? If you don't want others to play just turn off Steam on your PC end when you are done.
Just endable hardware acceleration if you want to use it. It is disabled by default because some people have reported issue with it.
And I have no idea why you even brought up Nvidia Shield. It only works for those using Nvidia GPU. But if you are using Nvidia GPU then why are you whining about AMD hardware acceleration?
1: The DVI adapter came with my videocard. It works perfectly when used with a PC. The monitor is 1920x1200. Nothing stopping this from running 1080p other than Valve not detecting the monitor correctly. Monitors have been PnP since forever. Ridiculous.
2: Uh, acceptable performance @ 480p on a 1900 AC router? I mean WTF is this even? I get better performance streaming from an w10 Atom tablet. If you are referring to security, a simple password should damn well be available for multiple users. Where are the parental controls? LOL.
3: I did.The option should be made available upon use. It generally works better than Intel, and especially software mdoe.
4: Shield isn't locked into Nvidia, because Android. Yes, it obviously works OOTB with Nvidia, but there are 3rd party apps that work with AMD. See Remotr or Kinoconsole. May not be simple as native due to the nature of non-native remote desktop apps, but It works.
I was basically hoping steam link would work better than remote desktop apps, or tablet streaming. It doesn't.
Current Review status: negative.
Recommendation: avoid until bugs are fixed, and features improved.
First of, Steam Link is designed with TV in mind. 1920 x 1200 is not a standardized TV resolution. Most TV's HDMI input will not accept 1920 x 1200. Steam Link only supports standardzied TV outputs (480p, 720p, and 1080p). In addition Steam Link does not scale nor letterbox the video output.
If your PC monitor indicates it supports 1080p as a valid input in its EDID, then Steam Link will feed 1080p. If not Steam Link won't send it. Steam Link works based on the information sent from your PC monitor (EDID), not the other way around.
Second of all, Steam Link only works when you are running Steam. If you close Steam then Steam Link won't works. Do this and no one can play Steam game when you are not playing. After you are done playing just shut down Steam Link and quit Steam on your PC.
If you are still worried that someone can use your PC to run Steam you can use mobile phone authenticator (2FA) on Steam.
Remotr or Kinoconsole are 3rd party apps. If you like them I suppose a cheap ARM single board (Raspberry Pi, Beaglebone, Orange Pi, etc) loaded with Android might work. More expensive than Steam Link but much cheaper than Nvidia Shield.
1: No sh!t shirlook, and I'm not using a freaking TV. It's a DAMN MONITOR, which supports MULTIPLE RESOLUTIONS. The problem isn't my monitor, it's that the steam link isn't detecting it properly, which means it's getting set to a failsafe resolution. 480p is NOT a default resolution for this monitor. The steam link just runs it at that because it: 1: Doesn't check EDID properly on older monitors. 2: Doesn't allow users to override resolutions.
2: Wrong. Steam link isn't programmed to handle older monitos, only new TVs. DVI is an older standard, but it is compatible with HDMI. The steam link just isn't checking what resolutions are available, because DVI. This monitor runs 1920 all the way down to 320, but the SOFTWARE HAS TO SUPPORT IT TO WORK. One of the biggest Pro's of a 16:10 monitor is that it NATIVELY SUPPORTS 4:3 AND 16:9 RESOLUTIONS, AND IS SELF LETTERBOXING / SCALING. The resolution problem is 100% with the steam link, and 0% with the monitor.
3: No.That's a worthless hack, and I prefer to leave steam running. What if I want to play on steam while another user plays steam link? What don't you understand about having MULTIPLE users? I DON'T WANT THEM LOGGING INTO MY ACCOUNT WHILE I'M PLAYING ON MY PC, The PROPER HACK would be to disable in-home streaming. You can't even get that right, Dumbass.
4. Mobile authentication DOES NOTHING with steam link logins.
5. Why the hell would I buy a raspberry Pi when I have already have a Shield? Idiot. I bought the steam link because I wanted a streaming device that works OOTB, and not a Hack Job.
Additional:
NEW GAMEBREAKING BUG DISCOVERED WITH STEAM LINK!!!!
STEAM LINK NO LONGER WORKS IF YOU "FORGET" YOUR PC. LOOKS LIKE IT DELETES THE AUTHENTICATION CODE, BUT STILL "REMEMBERS" THE PC, SO YOU ARE PERMANENTLY LOCKED OUT OF STEAM LINK BY FORGETTING A PC.
Calling him an idiot? That makes you the idiot here. I'm not subbed to the thread, don't waste your harrassment on a reply to me.
That is what the advertisement says.
Also:
Hardware Specifications
Overview
--> 1080p resolution at 60 FPS
Wired 100 Mbit/s Fast Ethernet and Wireless 802.11ac 2x2 (MIMO) networking abilities
3 USB 2.0 ports
Bluetooth 4.0
HDMI out
Just read before you buy, it´s that simple.
The Steam Link device wasnt made for monitors beside HD Standards
First of all what build are you on? Has the Steam Link updated to build 517? If the Link hasn't been able to update (hasn't been able to update from the web) then it could explain a lot of the troubles you are having.
When you use the DVI adapter, before you connect to your PC, does your monitor go to 480p mode? When the Link boots, the splash screen is 480p but then normally it switches to 1080p if supported. Check the monitor info settings while in the Steam Link menus and what is the resolution?
You should try perhaps a different DVI adapter with the Link, because other users successfully read the EDID through DVI adapters for older monitors/TVs and it works fine for them at 1080p. Maybe the EDID part of that adapter is broken and the Link is not able to read the monitor EDID.
Also I would recommend to try a different HDMI cable. It is possible you have a bad or marginal cable that is causing these issues.
If it is really stuck on 480 all time, you can override it to use 720p instead. I realize you probably want 1080p but 720 would be an improvement. Here's how:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/353380/discussions/0/487876568226628160/
As I am sure you are aware, DVI does not have any audio support (HDMI does) so yes you do lose audio when you do this. But it sounds like you got audio working another way.
I just tried forgetting a PC on my Link, and then later I am able to find it and reconnect to it, so I'm not sure why that isn't working for you. You will have to retype the 4 digit code after doing this.
Good luck!
2: No, the monitor works on a PC, or any other device that properly checks for resolutions. Steam link is not checking for available resolutions, nor does it give me a manual override. Seems to me the device doesn't know how to handle anything other than a 16:9 1080p HDMI TV.
3: It's a standard hdmi-dvi adapter. There's only one kind. The problem is more likely the 16:10 aspect ratio.
4: I'm using the HDMI cable that comes with the steam link. Shouldn't be a problem.
5: I'll have to look into that. Why it isn't an option directly in the device is beyond me, but that sounds like it might help. 720p would be vastly superior to 480, not to mention at least widescreen.
6: The monitor does support some form of audio, as it is in the options menu, but I've never actually used it before. I'm fine with using a headset.
Here is the monitor, btw:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824185005
DVI monitors with audio seems to be pretty obscure, so I'm not worried about it, but it would be nice if it did work. I might actually need an adapter:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-to-DVI-cable-converter-coaxial-stereo-audio-output-with-power-supply-/281740498223
This might work too, since the headset does:
https://www.amazon.com/Eastvita%C2%AE-Channel-External-Sound-Adapter/dp/B003MN1LTQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1465677220&sr=1-1&keywords=usb+7.1+headphone+adapter
7: Seems to have been a driver problem. Restarting the PC fixed it. I however, have not been able to forget the main pc to force retyping the 4-digit code. This is unacceptable security for a multi-user household.
Overall, I agree 100% with the #1 review of this product.
Pretty much sums it up.
Overall, the better streaming device is the Nvidia Shield TV, but only if you have a Nvidia card, and are willing to shell out $200 for a stream box. Maybe someday, but not right now. I already have the Shield portable, so I know it's not pnp unless you have all nvidia hardware.
Perhaps the 720p usb hack, and audio adapter will help. Resolution still needs to be an in-device option, and so does multi-user security. The AMD support needs to improve too.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/353380/discussions/0/451852571443382943/
Unfortunately that user didn't close the loop whether they got the issue resolved or not.
1) OK
2) I was referring to the Steam Link menus before connecting Steam Link to the PC. Does the monitor have a menu/info screen that tells you the resolution is really set to 480p for sure?
3) I think you may be right, according to the manual your monitor does not support 1920x1080 resolutions. The Link can only do 480 (720x480), 720p (1280x720), and 1080p (1920x1080). But your monitor supports none of these according to the monitor manual.
I think what is happening is the Link does interrogate the monitor display modes, and seeing none of the supported resolutions, it defaults to 480p. Then your monitor scales this and it looks terrible.
You can confirm this by getting the steamlink_debug.txt from your PC and looking for the EDID info of your monitor in the log. It should also say what resolution the Link chooses. Post it on pastebin and provide a link here if you like.
Summary - I think the issue with your resolution has more to do with your monitor not supporting modes that the Link supports, than with the DVI adapter or anything else. You will need to get a display that supports 1080p to have the best experience.
Good luck!
3:) Lol, How long have you been a PC gamer? I've been using a PC since DOS, and that's not how monitors work. The monitor supports 1080p with letterboxing. Of course the NATIVE resolution is 1920x1200, but it renders 1080p as well. The only issue here is getting the Steamlink to output 1080p. If the damn box won't output the resolution, I can't very well display it, now can I?
Also, where are you even getting this manual from? The current monitor listed on the DS site is an IPS model, when I have a S-PVA. Also, the "supported mode table" is nothing more than a resolution reference for refresh rate frequency. Lower resolutions support higher refresh rates. What you guys also need to realize is that 16:10 was a compromise / intermediary aspect ratio between 16:9 and 4:3. 16:10 monitors support both resolutions natively with letterboxing. 1600x1200 is native, and 1080p is native. 16:10 does both, and no other monitor can do this.
16:10 is a workstation class monitor. Of course the default "supported" resolutions are not going to be for multimedia. However, that doesn't mean those resolutions do not work at all. They work perfectly fine, but the OS/software has to support them. 1080p is obviously a subset of 1200p, but the OS has to be able to deduce that to work. Windows and Linux have no problem supporting these resolutions, because they aren't completely incompetent with handling monitors. Steam link, on the other hand, is not detecting that 1080p can run inside 1920x1200 with letterboxing.
EDID is nothing more than a REFERENCE for supported monitor modes. It does NOT detail every single supported resolution of a monitor. The OS has to take the EDID and extrapolate what actually works. Steam link is simply not doing that. It's not a question of "support", which is an insane cop-out, it's a question of extrapolating what should work. Obviously if 1920x1200 is available, then ALL LOWER RESOLUTIONS should be available. A smart OS doesn't need the EDID to tell it that, it uses the EDID to extrapolate what works, then makes those options available.
Steam link simply doesn't extrapolate supported resolutions, which duh. This would be easily remedied with giving users the option to force their preferred resolution like on a PC.
One more point:
HDCP support.
What resolution does most HDCP content run at?
Yeah. It's a steam link problem. It needs to extrapolate the supported subset resolutions, and it's not doing it. This is completely unfixable outside of Valve updating their resolution support, because it is on their end.
Also, Steam link = PC streaming. Not console. How does it handle OLD 4:3 PC games?
PC gaming means supporting all kinds of different resolutions and aspect ratios. Steam link is not a proper PC streaming device until it is fully compatible with PC resolutions. All this stuff tells me is that Steam link is a half baked device that doesn't actually do what it claims.
https://www.doublesight.com/product/detail/5.html
http://www.doublesight.com/files/ds-245w-manual.pdf
On page 18 it lists the supported modes. You are right it appears to be IPS not PVA so maybe it is not a perfect match. If you have a better manual where can it be found?
If you post the steamlink_debug.txt from your computer on pastebin and provide a link to it, perhaps the Valve developers can consider your suggestion by looking at this log (which shows the EDID that the Link reads from your monitor, and what resolution the Link ends up using). You can find the file here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\logs\steamlink_debug.txt
Cheers!
https://steamcommunity.com/app/353380/discussions/0/487876568226628160/
Steam Link is detecting properly alright. Your monitor doesn't say it supports 1080p in EDID, and it is as simple as that. I actually even wondered if your PC does feed 1080p signal as is to the monitor. It could very well being the graphic driver letterbox it to 1200p, THEN feed it to the monitor.
Some HDMI switch has the ability to use customized EDID, so use that if you are so dead set on using this 16:10 monitor.
That is NOT an exclusive advantage for 16:10 display. Even 16:9 display can perfectly display 4:3 content without scaling by using 1440x1080 (1080p 4:3) or 960x720 (720p 4:3).
The only exclusive advantage of 16:10 is higher vertical resolution, which is beneficial for professional photo editing and ebook reader. It doesn't have any exclusive advantage over 16:9 for average consumer who are gaming or watching a movie.
HDCP is an encryption scheme. It has no beraing on the actual content.