Steam Link

Steam Link

Browen Nov 1, 2017 @ 2:40pm
Only 3 USB Ports
Why does the link only have 3 ports? I'm aware that you can connect multiple controllers via bluetooth, xbox wireless transceivers, splitters, etc., but why isn't there just a fourth included? Is it just because Valve didn't find it worth their money to build it with four? I'm having a hard time understanding why this wouldn't just be included, as it seems to essentially go against the entire point of the product.

Steam link exists so that users can play games easily and without much hassle. It's also meant to be used with a controller, via big picture mode. Sure, they obviously want to sell steam controllers but the most popular and widely owned controller is the xbox controller, which needs a connection. Unless you have a transceiver. But if you're buying a link to avoid the hassle, why would they make it necessary for you to also go through the additional hassle of buying a splitter or transceiver, not even through steam (because obviously anyone with 4 xbox controllers who wasn't already looking to buy a steam controller isn't going to buy one now just because of the link). Personally, it's the sole reason I'm not getting the link. Can anyone explain the rationale behind not including the last port?
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Vanya Nov 1, 2017 @ 4:54pm 
"the most popular and widely owned controller is the xbox controller"

Sure, for people with an xbox, and tbh if you have an xbox, why would you need SteamLink? SteamLink exists so PC users can stream their desktop games to their tv, not to cater to xbox users.
Browen Nov 1, 2017 @ 5:31pm 
Originally posted by Vanya:
"the most popular and widely owned controller is the xbox controller"

Sure, for people with an xbox, and tbh if you have an xbox, why would you need SteamLink? SteamLink exists so PC users can stream their desktop games to their tv, not to cater to xbox users.
Okay, well then by that logic why include as many as 3? If it's not designed for controllers then what could you possibly use all 3 usb ports for? One for keyboard, maybe (even though it's designed to not need a keyboard). A mouse, that's another one. But I don't know why you'd need 3. It seems like either too many or too few, either way.

And you can't deny that the most popular pc controller is also the xbox controller. Personally, I use dualshock 4 controllers. But I would be using my steam link on the go, at other people's houses (I already have my laptop setup so that it can easily connect to my TV), and other people tend to have xbox controllers. So you're saying I should personally bring 4 wireless controllers along with my link, just because the link is meant for people who don't use xbox controllers. It defeats the entire purpose.

Also, just because people use xbox controllers doesn't mean they own an xbox. It's the standard game controller. It's also significantly cheaper than dualshock 4, steam, or any other bluetooth controller out there. So it's the logical choice for some low-budget PC gaming as well. And it makes no sense that the link wasn't designed with this in mind.
Sanaki Nov 1, 2017 @ 5:32pm 
Two USB ports would have been pretty standard. I was surprised to see it had three. Just plug in a hub if you need more ports. They're around $5.
Vanya Nov 1, 2017 @ 8:32pm 
Xystem4: You appear to be making a whole lot of assumptions based on what you want and expect from the SteamLink. You complain about there only being 3 USB ports and then claim there's not enough to need them in the first place.

"One for keyboard, maybe (even though it's designed to not need a keyboard)" Um, yeah, only if you use a controller, which I don't. If I wanted a console I would buy one. So that's one for keyboard, another for mouse, and the third, well that gets taken up with my headphones.

"So you're saying I should personally bring 4 wireless controllers along with my link" Mate, if you turned up at my house with your Link, expecting to use my internet to play games, then yeah, you better bring everything you need with you, including your PC as needed by Steam Link, because if you turned up and started whinging like you have here, I would show you the door.

saulveloz Nov 1, 2017 @ 10:49pm 
Originally posted by Sanaki:
Two USB ports would have been pretty standard. I was surprised to see it had three. Just plug in a hub if you need more ports. They're around $5.
+1
Wolfpup3 Nov 2, 2017 @ 8:18am 
+1 from me too. 3 ports is great...I'm sort of surprised it has that many, I love that it does. Swap stuff around or buy a hub if need be. Plus it supports bluetooth I guess, so some devices you might be connectiing wouldn't even need USB.
Browen Nov 2, 2017 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Vanya:
Xystem4: You appear to be making a whole lot of assumptions based on what you want and expect from the SteamLink. You complain about there only being 3 USB ports and then claim there's not enough to need them in the first place.
Are you saying there's something wrong with me having expectations of a product as a customer? Yeah, I want it for a specific reason, and if it's not capable of performing the tasks I want to use it for why would I buy it?

And I'm not really complaining, I just wanted to get the rationale behind the decision. And that at the end is a gross misinterpretation of my words.
Originally posted by Vanya:
"One for keyboard, maybe (even though it's designed to not need a keyboard)" Um, yeah, only if you use a controller, which I don't. If I wanted a console I would buy one. So that's one for keyboard, another for mouse, and the third, well that gets taken up with my headphones.
Okay, so here you completely just misquoted me. I was saying that from the perspective of if the link had been designed for people NOT planning on using 4 controllers with it. That would be a different situation, because the product is designed for a different use. I'm not saying I want less ports, I still wouldn't buy it in the case that it only had 2. I would however understand the decision to do so.

Okay, now here you're being hypocritical. You keep telling me how I'm wrong for wanting certain things of the link. But here you're saying you want to use the link in a way completely not what it was made for. The link was made with the intent of making steam essentially a console. It's just what it's for. Not for giving yourself a bigger computer monitor. If you want to use it that way, fine, you do you, but it's not an argument. How Valve wants you to use the link is with a steam controller (It is clearly marketed this way, and is only logical), which is designed so that you don't need a keyboard.

Originally posted by Vanya:
"So you're saying I should personally bring 4 wireless controllers along with my link" Mate, if you turned up at my house with your Link, expecting to use my internet to play games, then yeah, you better bring everything you need with you, including your PC as needed by Steam Link, because if you turned up and started whinging like you have here, I would show you the door.
Okay, firstly, why all the salt? I looked back at my other posts, and I haven't been rude to you. Definitely haven't flat-out insulted you. Please, I'm just asking for Valve's rationale, I'm not trying to complain or flame, I just wanted to hear the perspective. Let's keep it civil, thanks.

Okay, so you didn't even make an argument here, you really just were hating on me, but I'll try to respond anyway. How I would use a link, personally, is to bring to the houses of some friends. Not like show up out of the blue, surprising them with it, like you for some crazy reason seem to think I would do. We would plug it into his ethernet, then into the tv, and then we would attach his 4 xbox controllers and start playing. I don't see why it's some horrible crime to be "expecting to use his internet". Also, I actually am family shared with all of my friends, and I'm the supplier of virtually all the games we play. Not that it would be a crime to play his games either, despite you acting like it is. And you seem to think I should bring my own PC too? Just because... I'm a terrible person I guess?

I get that it's not necessarily how it was meant to be used, but yeah, I would bring the link as an easy way to set up steam with a tv, pretty much like a console. My friends all have xbox controllers, and they all have enough that we don't need to bring our own. So if I wanted to use bluetooth, I would have to personally carry 4 controllers with me, in addition to the link. Which makes it much less of a reasonable request. I also don't want to have to carry a splitter/hub with me and have to deal with that setup every time.

But again, most people wouldn't be taking it with them. But it is very conceivable that many people would want to use the link for 4 person games (it is meant to be used as a console, after all), and many many people only have xbox controllers. Those people would need to buy outside addons to make the link work for them, and I just want to know why.
GuRu Asaki Nov 2, 2017 @ 2:53pm 
its simple really... 2 for controllers and 1 for keyboard with touch pad for texting... you have bluetooth for player 3 and 4... i believe steam machine has 4 ports...
_I_ Nov 2, 2017 @ 4:03pm 
3 is enough for wireless k/m reciever and 2 controllers
or if you use a 360 wireless pc reciever you can run 4 wireless 360 controllers on it

or grab a usb 2.0 external powered hub
Sanaki Nov 2, 2017 @ 4:27pm 
Originally posted by _I_:
or grab a usb 2.0 external powered hub

I would be extremely surprised if you needed a powered hub. Unpowered should work just fine for controllers.
_I_ Nov 2, 2017 @ 6:50pm 
the link has a 5.1v 2.5a (12w) power adapter
a chromecast (same guts as steam link) uses about 2w (5v x 0.4a)

each 360 controller can draw about .5a max @ 5v = 2.5w ea

4 controllers, k/m and the link could run too close to the power bricks limit

id play it safe and use a powered usb hub for more than 3 usb devices
Browen Nov 2, 2017 @ 7:12pm 
Okay, since everyone seems to be misunderstanding me, I'd like to be very clear. I know there are simple workarounds to there only being 3 ports. I myself own 4 dualshock 4 controllers with bluetooth. I'm just curious about the rationale behind only putting 3 ports on the device, when it seems obvious that there should be 4.
Sanaki Nov 3, 2017 @ 3:28am 
Originally posted by Xystem4:
I'm just curious about the rationale behind only putting 3 ports on the device, when it seems obvious that there should be 4.

The answer seems to be that while you hold the opinion that four is obvious, no one else really feels the same. It's not made for every niche usage, it's made for the bulk of users. And unfortunate though it may be, couch multiplayer is indeed a niche these days.
_I_ Nov 3, 2017 @ 4:20am 
its most likely hardware limitations on the chromecast guts
its controller has 6 usb, but 3 are used for internal usb/lan adapter (as why its only 10/100), wifi adapter, and bluetooth adapter
similar to whats in the org/rasp pi

adding another internal usb controller/hub and ports would raise the production cost and somehting most users do not need

Last edited by _I_; Nov 3, 2017 @ 4:27am
Xjph Nov 3, 2017 @ 4:29am 
You know that the newest version of the Xbox One controller doesn't need to use a USB port, right? It can pair with the Link using native bluetooth.

edit: Hold up a second here. This is the "sole reason you're not getting the Link" but you don't even need them? You said yourself you have four DS4 controllers, so why is not being able to plug in four wired xbox controllers your line in the sand? Now I'm just confused.
Last edited by Xjph; Nov 3, 2017 @ 4:36am
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