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goox Dec 29, 2023 @ 11:56am
[SOLVED] - Copyright - Lets Play not monetizable on YouTube
Unfortunately, I wanted to make more videos, but my first video was almost immediately claimed by the game's music rights.
Monetization for my channel is therefore not possible and I will of course not make any further efforts in this regard.
I would still be happy if someone from the team could give me an update if something changes.
https://youtu.be/w3feWTz-aGk
Last edited by goox; Jan 22, 2024 @ 3:16am
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DeadMechGaming Jan 1, 2024 @ 5:42pm 
I don't think you understand how YouTube works.... most games with music, cannot have their music played in a video if you want it to be monetized; hence why most YouTubers take the effort do this crazy advanced thing called going to the settings and turning the music off.

It's not Crytivo's job to fix YouTubes crappy automatic copyright algorithms. It IS your job as a content creator to know how the system works and how to navigate it.
Last edited by DeadMechGaming; Jan 1, 2024 @ 5:44pm
The Hat Jan 3, 2024 @ 10:21am 
The person above is partially correct.

It's extremely hit-and-miss however. You are almost always better off turning off music unless you know otherwise for a fact. You could always look for a royalty-free tune for any periods of silence to play in the background.
Last edited by The Hat; Jan 3, 2024 @ 10:22am
goox Jan 3, 2024 @ 11:38am 
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Thanks guys for the clarification everyone already knows.
I meant to inform the company that if it is desired for content creators to make videos (for whatever marketing reasons that might be a thing), they better whitelist the in-game music on youtube to avoid claims.
Note for anyone who doesn't understand this: This generates free advertising.

And furthermore:
I would be happy if someone from the team could give me an update if something changes.
Kryzzk Jan 5, 2024 @ 2:24pm 
I always understood this to be up to the company the music/song belongs to not the game developer who leased access to it, is this not correct? I know that was how a game developer explained it some time back on another game forum.
goox Jan 6, 2024 @ 5:00am 
The company (gaming) usually buys the license for the music and is able to add the music to a whitelist on all platforms like youtube.
So everyone who is gaming will not receive a strike or something.
It is not only a thing to music, its for nearly everything. Even the sounds for klick, whoosh, impact and so on.
Imagine in your game, you show a picture of one of this new NFT things, but you dont own it. Then what? You see the problem?

What the gaming company does or not is up to them. But it would be nice for the company itself, the creators, press and everyone who is pushing a product forward, to have the stuff licensed.

This is a huge factor for all games. And the most game companies get this done right.

Whatever here happend is unclear. Maybe some gamedevs have beef with the music composer / owner, maybe they did not made good contracts, maybe this is intended to. Who knows.

What I know: I cannot make YT videos with monetization and the big creators can't do it either.
Last edited by goox; Jan 6, 2024 @ 5:03am
WarPaws Jan 7, 2024 @ 5:07am 
It would probably be easier if they just implemented a Streamer/Creator option in-game that cuts out licensed music. A lot of other titles do similar things, and it saves you hassle in the process.

Short term, though, you're better off just disabling in-game music entirely for when you record your videos. This problem isn't going to solve itself overnight, but it's something that you have control over, at least.
Last edited by WarPaws; Jan 7, 2024 @ 5:07am
goox Jan 7, 2024 @ 7:07am 
I don't think that switching off the in-game music for content creators would benefit the game.
Music as well as sound effects are an elementary part of the game - let's say the overall work. Music conveys a lot of emotions.
In the case of Universim, we're not talking about pop music from the radio, but rather sounds for the ambience.

I always use licensed music or royalty-free sources for my streams or other videos. The companies themselves have to know what their goal is and what helps the game.
It doesn't matter whether the creator can use a workaround or not.
I'm not making any more videos about this and who knows which really big creators have been put off by this in advance. For me it's pennies, for the game company it's more.
VoiD Jan 7, 2024 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by DeadMechGaming:
I don't think you understand how YouTube works.... most games with music, cannot have their music played in a video if you want it to be monetized; hence why most YouTubers take the effort do this crazy advanced thing called going to the settings and turning the music off.

It's not Crytivo's job to fix YouTubes crappy automatic copyright algorithms. It IS your job as a content creator to know how the system works and how to navigate it.
Over 99% of the games don't have this issue, only very select few, like tropico, do, and even those have an option to turn off all copyrighted music.
DeadMechGaming Jan 8, 2024 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by VoiD:
Over 99% of the games don't have this issue, only very select few, like tropico, do, and even those have an option to turn off all copyrighted music.

Over 99%? Really? That is a blatant lie and you know it.

Still doesn't change the facts. The OP has an obvious solution that they can do to fix their problem, and they won't do it. Instead they continue to threaten the devs and claim that them not doing what they say will hurt their business. The entitlement from the OP is strong.
goox Jan 8, 2024 @ 11:51am 
I am threatening the devs? Really?!

Internet. *rolleyes*
Next stop: Godwins Law.

My last words to this: I like the game. :steamthumbsup:
DeadMechGaming Jan 8, 2024 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by goox:
I am threatening the devs? Really?!

Yep, you did. You don't have to threaten violence for something to still be considered a threat.

You literally said that if the devs didn't do what you wanted, then you wouldn't make videos. That in itself is threatening them to give in to your demands "or else". Not saying you have to make videos, but don't expect a good reception when you start throwing out demands.

As has been stated by myself and others, all you have to do is turn the music off. It's not hard and it doesn't require you to throw a tantrum on the forums.
Last edited by DeadMechGaming; Jan 8, 2024 @ 5:32pm
PKblaze Jan 14, 2024 @ 2:40pm 
You could just mute the music and put on something that wont trigger YT's system.
Mr. Pain™ Jan 15, 2024 @ 1:48am 
Most youtubers I see that cover gaming usually cut the game's music off in whatever game they play and just put their own track over it instead, or just talk over it. Silly sometimes but that's how they get around it.
unknowncapybara  [developer] Jan 16, 2024 @ 12:51pm 
Hey there! We are currently researching this issue and figuring out the best way to go about solving it. Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
goox Jan 18, 2024 @ 3:18am 
If you need further informations, feel free to get in contact with me.
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