Development Hell Detected

[Virtual Lad]

Well, im really sorry to be the one who gives you this news, but if you were like me, a strategy-sim fan, im sorry you got dissapointed, because this game is just that, a failed development, and heres why.

Originally started as a kickstarter campaign in 2014, this game promised a reborn of the god-sim genre, which is one of my favorites, and it really came to my attention, the game featured a awesome video in which you make your civilization progress until space era, but you encounter not so friendly aliens and you gotta fight them off before they destroy your planet with a bigass robot, then you can colonizate other planets and even visit those aliens and make a sort of a independence day 2016 sort of thing, and it was freaking awesome, with all those concept arts of ships and aliens and high tech stuff, you could also recieve exploring rovers and giant laser satellites for pledging, with also you playing a role with god powers and the nugget tracking, with events like a mysterious crate fell from the sky and it was some alien virus or really high tech, it was AWESOME, it was genius, and it also came with (drumroll)... A ROADMAP, which according to them, the game was going to be released Q4 2016, with a steam beta on Q3 2016, but backers could play the game in beta and alpha a little bit earlier like Q2 of the same year.

The problem is, none of that happened, i was excited so i followed the game when it was announced on steam greenlight on their main page, and soon after it came to the EA state which page youre now in, but the problem is, i forgot for a while about this game, but then it was christmas of 2016 and i remembered which gift i definitely wanted, i got to the page, and well... i saw something straight out of my worse little nightmares (no pun intended), it wasnt EVEN on beta, like, not at all, it just said that cringy COMING SOON, there was a demo, but it was just the same planet from the kickstarter video sitting there doing nothing, even the 2014 planet got to launch some rockets and giant space alien mech from outter space destroying it, this was an insult to the game itself, and its almost 2018, 4 years later, and its still UNFINISHED, like, really unfinished, you can see their EA description, and they ARENT EVEN INCLUDING COLONIZATION, which was one of the main selling points of the whole game, get to space and find more planets, ITS EVEN ON THE TRAILERRR.

You can also see that the game doesnt even has a fixed date, they are "working" on it, the same way as DAY Z does i guess, cant wait to see my grandchildren play the beta. But i guess that the worse part of this, is that all the updates they launch is merely HORSE****, they are just prehistoric buildings and freaking nugget updates and 1-2 planet one, BUT HOLY****, WHERE ARE THE SPACESHIPS?? ALIENS?? MODERN BUILDINGS??, ezpz, theres none, and its been like 20+ days since they last updated in nov 2 2017, and it was FREAKING HALLOWEEN UPDATES, LIKE WTF, finish your broken piece of game before making it holidaywise idk, theres just so much wrong with this game, and is horrible because this was gonna be THE game, with incredible replay value and so much complexity and fun in it, just unique, and what we got, a game thats been 4 years in dev hell, with a little bit of communication ill give them that, but just saying theyre working on it and want to launch a great game so polished and neat, and thats freaking cool, like, a lot, you care for your game, but you arent making rocket science (maybe yes a little), and you stated as in your funding it was gonna be full release in 2016, maybe with a little delays if you included multiplayer, BUT YOU DIDNT, so i dont see any excuses to delay it or you havent explained them as good as you explained why you WILL INDEED finish by 2016, but guys i know what youre gonna say, maybe its because they are a small team?? if you visit their kickstarter campaign, you will see that the 387,345 DOLLARS they got where indeed to recruit EXPERIENCED game developers, and equipment to make the game, so i guess that answers itself, so i see 2 options here:

-Either you spent all your funds in personal "needs"
OR
-Youre lazy af

So my final veredict, this game wont be coming any time soon, and thats a whole shame, because i was in LOVE with this proyect, but hey, another brick in the wall i guess, i just got tired of waiting so unless you really get your **** together, i got nothing to say other than dont waste your time and remove this from your wishlist or lets pressure this bois to really start making progress, because this just cant be, youre letting us all down.

[Nunchan]

What an idiot!

[p.stucki]

Welcome to Godus 2.0

The lesson to learn here is to not spend money on Greenlight / Kickstarter / Early Access, but finished and released products. Hope you did not lose too much money. :)

[Virtual Lad]

Originally posted by Nunchan:

What an idiot!

Well im glad your point is well argumented bud :D

[Virtual Lad]

Originally posted by p.stucki:

Welcome to Godus 2.0

The lesson to learn here is to not spend money on Greenlight / Kickstarter / Early Access, but finished and released products. Hope you did not lose too much money. :)

I wouldnt care if they had launched at least a playable beta, the problem is that theres nothing, and i guess refund possibilities are far from being a option, but i guess ill just have to wait till they launch it (if they do) thk you tho :) and hope you didnt lost money as well

[Neerlander]

you see 2 options; the world is flat, or the sun revolves around the earth, center of the galaxy.

[Virtual Lad]

Originally posted by Neerlander:

you see 2 options; the world is flat, or the sun revolves around the earth, center of the galaxy.

Well maybe if you read the whole review you would see why there are only 2 options, and why i make the statements i make, and since you got no information to back your opinion, i invite you to either prove me wrong or explain why you do such statements

[Virtual Lad]

Originally posted by morriskend:

https://forums.theuniversim.com/index.php?/topic/56218-game-looks-good-but/

Here's where the dev more or less says they just finsished the game engine. Not sure how long it's been in development or exactly when they finished the engine but, it's been comming soon for a long time.

The game engine was "finished" quite a long time ago (i think Q2 2015), but as you can see in the forum you send, the game so far, as i explained in my review, its BARELY in pre-medieval ages aka stone age, which explains why they only upload pre-medieval models and updates, and since its a game that began in 2014, its ABSURD they are barely beginning the medieval age.

[Freeasabird🕊]

Isn't this game breaking one of steams rules er whatever? "No placeholder games" i read that somewhere...eather sell on steam as EA or gtfl.

[Not_4_Prophet]

So you don't own the game, but you're still griping about it? I kickstarted the game, and although I'm certainly not happy with its development so far, at least I understand that developing a god game is not easy. Look at Godus and the failure it became due to poor design and key development choices. Look at Spore and the jumbled mess that it became compared to what it was supposed to be. I suppose the point of this is that you should appreciate the fact that they've gotten this far, and have not stated that they are in any financial trouble.

[theta]

Originally posted by Spooky_Goblin:

So you don't own the game, but you're still griping about it? I kickstarted the game, and although I'm certainly not happy with its development so far, at least I understand that developing a god game is not easy. Look at Godus and the failure it became due to poor design and key development choices. Look at Spore and the jumbled mess that it became compared to what it was supposed to be. I suppose the point of this is that you should appreciate the fact that they've gotten this far, and have not stated that they are in any financial trouble.

Sounds like someone is in denial because they have already invested their money.
You have to admit that being a full year behind the timeline is pretty bad correct?

[theta]

This is my two cents. What was promised in the kickstarter was mostly concepts rather than anyt completed builds. The devs already have the money in their pocket and now they won't be in any hurry to get this game done.

[Not_4_Prophet]

I've made bad decisions in terms of early access before, but I'm not gonna go out of may way whether it be "Hey guys, the game's not out but you should 100% buy it" or "Hey guys I don't own the game, but you shouldn't buy it" because you know something? The game cost me a whopping 15 dollars and a few years of waiting. You don't kickstart something because it is logical to do so, sometimes you do it because someone has an idea and you yourself think that their idea is cool too. The bonus to Kickstarting something, such as a game, is that you usually get the game at some point.


But that's just my "two cents".

[Virtual Lad]

Originally posted by Spooky_Goblin:

So you don't own the game, but you're still griping about it? I kickstarted the game, and although I'm certainly not happy with its development so far, at least I understand that developing a god game is not easy. Look at Godus and the failure it became due to poor design and key development choices. Look at Spore and the jumbled mess that it became compared to what it was supposed to be. I suppose the point of this is that you should appreciate the fact that they've gotten this far, and have not stated that they are in any financial trouble.

Youre wrong pal, i did kickstarted the game and i do have played the so called "demo" and "beta" and its just fking ridiculous, tho i see your point in that godus was a failure and that spore was indeed a waaaaay less than the promise it was, however lets take in count godus released 1 year after it got funded, you can say godus got even more bucks and thats true, godus got a really good amount of money, however its production was obviously rushed and im pretty sure not all the money was for development as most kickstarters do, they sure get their cut and just leave the rest for the game, which explains why the game is so expensive since they dont need the money because they already GOT FUNDED FOR EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEEDED, but thats a rant for another day, sure kickstarters have their problems, and i know you dont make god sims and you would do a flash animation of a bouncy ball, what im ranting about ist about that theres been near 4 years since this game got overfunded clearly, and we havent got anything of what we were promised IN THEIR ROADMAP, which is just absurd, if you like supporting others peoples wallets thats fine by me, then you got me busted, but since me and other persons want to see this game finished, we are making threads like this to get a response, and sure, i dont own this game, because theres NONE, thats the problem, and calling their demos games is absurd, they arent, they are just a crappy showdown of what the game (will?) be on the future, sure development may have problems, but the money you gave to those guys was gonna be used to recruit teams with experience and equipment, so i dont see any excuse for having at best 40% of the game in only 4 years.

[Virtual Lad]

Originally posted by Flaw:

Originally posted by Spooky_Goblin:

So you don't own the game, but you're still griping about it? I kickstarted the game, and although I'm certainly not happy with its development so far, at least I understand that developing a god game is not easy. Look at Godus and the failure it became due to poor design and key development choices. Look at Spore and the jumbled mess that it became compared to what it was supposed to be. I suppose the point of this is that you should appreciate the fact that they've gotten this far, and have not stated that they are in any financial trouble.

Sounds like someone is in denial because they have already invested their money.
You have to admit that being a full year behind the timeline is pretty bad correct?

It aint 1 year, its almost 2 years, which, is even crappier

[NightH4wk1982]

The game industry should go back to closed alpha/beta testing with a required NDA. Nowadays you can get any old ♥♥♥♥♥♥ buying in to something and then slagging it off because they don't understand the development process. Development takes as long as it takes, sometimes unexecpted obstacles appear which take time to deal with, and thus affect the launch window. You clearly don't understand the complexity involved in developing a game of this scope.

I did a huge amount of alpha testing in the 90's and early 00's, and you never got this level of immaturity among the community.