Cakewalk Steam VST manager problem loading .. please help

[wizazz]

i purchased not long ago Music Creator 6 touch and It came with Cakewalk Sound Center (VST) and with the package I got the full DLC collection VST packs which I spent ALOT of money on.. But I have yet to use Music Creator 6 Touch because I cant get the Cakewalk Sound Center to load up.. I always get stuck on the intro where it asks you to select folder destinations for 32bit and 64bit VST locations... the 32bit designates a location and the button highlights below that.. but in area where the 64bit is designates.. no matter what destination folder you select the button below never highlights to continue to the program to use it... I have tried going to many support forums.. emails.. phone numbers.. I either cant get in contact with any support.. and I've spent countless hours looking on the net for a solution to fix this and still I found nothing... can someone please help guide me to fix this problem.. thanks

[GibsonPro-Audio]

There is no 64-bit version of Cakewalk Sound Center, so no 64 bit options is available.

The VST Manager isn't integral to operation and is not required to be run for utilization of the synth. It's just there to create a link to a users VST folder, from the VST DLL in the STEAM Library.

The Synth isn't used standalone. You'll need to load Cakewalk Sound Center through a digital audio workstation like SONAR or Music Creator.

[wizazz]

if i could show you a picture it shows at start of Sound center that it asks you to select a destination for 32bit and 64bit destination to where your VST resides.. it makes you select or it wont proceed.. here i will post here a picture of the screen it shows me ....

http://s23.postimg.org/n4mei0vyj/Cakewalk_Sound_Center_Problem.jpg

[wizazz]

i tryed sooooo many ways .. even using the same 32bit in the selection as you can see in picture.. but it still wont let me past this screen to use the sound center

[Aztec]

@Wizazz ... I think I can see your confusion ...

You don't actually launch Cakewalk Sound Center ... It is accessed through the VST soft syth (Sound Center) from within MC6T.

Note: I haven't actually seen that VST Manager as in your pic ... probably because I've never launched Cakewalk Sound Center (from the Steam Library).

See this post and inline links to find your Expansion Packs:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/222710/discussions/0/540737414520508931/

Note Also: MC6T and Sound Center are only 32bit. The 64bit Path pointing back to the 32bit VST location (as in your pic) is for Sonar/MC7 which can still use the 32bit VSTs in 64bit mode.

Here's some further background to VSTs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=299042505
OR ...
... if your Cakewalk Steam VST Manager comes up on MC6T launch ... can you click the 'Link All 32bit Plugins' button, to advance proceedings?

[wizazz]

Thank you Alot you been a great help.. i think i finally found them within the MC6T.. really hard to find this stuff in it...... they should allow people that purchased the MC6T from steam to be able to download the software and vst packs they purchased from off steam at the cakewalk website so that way the MC6T is not connected to Steam in any way.. that would help alot of problems and vst getting redirected to wrong areas ect. ect.

[Aztec]

Yeah - identification is not necessarily nor immediately clear from within Sound Center.

There's no hard standards for VST2 to suggest a 'right' area. This has been addressed in VST3. Anyway - some suggestions in the Guide above.

Cakewalk's VSTs are under the %CakeHome% by default and in the case of Steam, that's within the %SteamPath%. You can add additional locations in your Prefs. Similarly external VST hosts can scan the Cake VST locations. (Some VSTs, such as Nomad Factory BlueTubes in Sonar Prof+ are 'locked' to Sonar at the request of the 3rd party).

Regardless - the DSF Expansion Packs in question are for Sound Center and therefore contained under and presented through Sound Center.

I don't suspect Valve would look too favorably on Steam 'simply' being a front door to the Cakewalk Store.

[Warhawk_GR]

hey wizazz I would like to ask you about the DLC content you bought. I'm mostly interested in Orchestral Strings and Orchestral Winds,Brass and Percussion.

They 're on a great price right now and since I was looking for such instrument packs I'd like to know your opinion. I dont't expect their quality and content to be comparable to those 500$ packs but I'm asking for a variety of sounds anyone would expect to hear in an modern orechestral composition (I love/need spiccato strings btw!).

There is only one short preview video available for each pack on youtube by DSF and so I could use some more info/thoughts (I've already looked at the included instruments for each) or maybe a track to listen to!! Also, I like to experiment with lots of genres so I'm considering buying Electronica pack too but only if modern synths are part of it. I have enough 70's style synths so I'd be happy if more modern electronic instruments were available for me (the kind you hear in remixes,EDM etc).
Thanks for your time!

[Aztec]

Do you have Cakewalk product? ... the Orchestral bits in TTS-1 are often overlooked. Also with Dimension Pro (part of Producer/Platinum) you get Garritan Pocket Orchestra - a cutdown Garittan Personal Orchestra (GPO).


More info on the packs you are looking at at DSF:
http://www.digitalsoundfactory.com/orchestral-strings
http://www.digitalsoundfactory.com/windsbrassperc
Seems to be plenty of content for the price ... but size might suggest lower quality sample rates etc.
I have Steinway Pianos and Guitars - which are widely regarded as the pick of the bunch for for the DSF Sound Center Expansions.
You might also like to consider this - down from $50 to $20:
http://www.digitalsoundfactory.com/v01-grand-piano
It has 24/96 sampling on the piano at least, and includes Orchestral plus - perhaps part of the included Dimension LE ... but it suggests it expands on them.

Afficianados will suggest that GPO is the entry point ($150), if you can't budget Vienna, East West, Kirk Hunter etc.

But I've seen some posts of people saying Sonatina Symphonic Orchestra (SSO) can hold it's own ... and it's FREE!
http://sso.mattiaswestlund.net/index.html
I've just downloaded it.
And am checking it out with Sforzando - FREE!
http://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc5k0k0BEMY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBhYNXFWI9M
etc

[Warhawk_GR]

Hi ShellstaX, thank you for answering! I own Music Creator 6 and thus I thought I could expand Sound Center with DLC. TTS-1 has a variety of sounds but definitely not enough... I 'm going to download SSO too but still I don't think it's complete (it's free after all!). That's why I asked about these 2 packs. They seem to include everything expected to be in a symphonic orchestra (though the small size troubled me too).
But...oh man...I'm impressed by Garittan Personal Orchestra! I hadn't heard about that one until now. I've checked lots of other expensive/profesional packs form EastWest, Native Instruments etc but not this one. And I believe it has the lowest price especially if you consider it's a complete orchestra pack (with a grand piano). Do you have any personal opinion on this one?
I could afford GPO (it's still lot's of money but I'm starting to realize that's how it goes in music production) but I'm not sure yet... It seem like I could get almost the same content with less than 30€ (both DSF packs without Steinway piano).
Thanks for all that extra information!

[Aztec]

Whilst I don't have direct experience with the DSF Orchestral Packs nor GPO (except the Pocket Edition as part of DimPro and other DSF Packs) ... I have an opinion on most things ;)

The DSF packs are likely more than OK, esp to 'cut your teeth' an whilst at good sale price, and esp supplemented with Sonatina.

I checked the the sounds from the Pocket edition of GPO - they're great ... and are also relatively small - 16bit depth(?) / 44.1kHz sample rate, flac files.

So I'd probably suggest this ...
1. Get the DSF Packs (unless you get Sonar Platinum with DimPro GPO Pocket)
2. Use the cash saved not buying GPO to upgrade to somewhere on the Sonar ladder, and esp whilst upgrades are still on sale (on Steam). 64bit compatibility + more unlimited + current + + ... and did you know MC6T can only play a max of 48kHz anyway(?) - should be OK for most ears. You can run MC6T alonside if you want (I don't think it's still 'required' for the sake of the DSF expansion packs as DLC has been aligned to the Sound Center Steam 'Product'(?)).
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=205802602
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Versions
3. According to how you proceed, keep an eye out for sales on GPO Personal/Instant ... or more expensive Packs/Suites. Seemingly Garritan had a 40% sale last September.

Of course, you may have other reasons why and why not.


This is a very good video about creating ensembles and adding reverb:
(The DimPro Pocket Orchestra has some FX presets for reverb/modulation e.g, Big Hall, Chamber / Symphony).
I don't mean to tease you toward (non-sale) GPO with this - it does sound awesome :)
http://youtu.be/WzbrHds8o24

[Warhawk_GR]

Well, I believe the DSF packs won't leave me unsatisfied. It's lots of content plus I'm still a beginner. Also, I 've been looking for a more advanced DAW and yes, Sound Center can run individually as a plugin in other DAW's (I've checked it in Mixcraft 7 Trial version).
Ofcourse, when the time for an upgrade comes (or sales!) I'll have in mind GPO.
I'm grateful for your advice and help! Thank you for your time.
Cheers!

[Aztec]

50% off Complete Orchestral Collection by Peter Siedlaczek[vstbuzz.com] for the next 11days.

€90 , 26GB uncompressed and works on Kontakt Player (free).

PS: (For other things) I've hooked Kontakt through Sonar without issue. Perhaps test Kontakt with MC6T first.

[Warhawk_GR]

hehe that came out of nowhere. Seems it's totally worth it. Now I must make a decision! thanks again!

[Aztec]

Garritan sale until July 15 at Time+Space[www.timespace.com] including e.g,:
(~30% off for EU, ~40% off for ROW)

GPO:
These prices are for serial Download. Boxed/delivery versions for a bit extra.
GBP£57.46 excl VAT = ~USD$90
GBP£68.96 incl VAT

GIO:
GBP£66.63 excl VAT = ~USD$105
GBP£79.96 incl VAT

I didn't read thourough but understand that those outside the EU do not have to pay VAT.