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Are 32-bit Audio FX impacted or is it only synths?
Sound Center is only 32, so you won't see a 64-bit version.
What driver mode are you running in right now?
If you freeze the synth, does it still pop/crack?
Thank you for your prompt reply, Seth.
Yes, all the other 32 bit Synths are working in 32 bit mode but either unusable or runs very poorly in 64 bit mode. ( with lots of cracks, pops, sparks etc.) :(
But the problem is that I have some other premium plugins which are only meant for 64 bit Daw.
And more , when I bought the DLCs for cakewalk sound centre, either it was not mentioned there that it won't work with 64 bit mode of Sonar, or I missed the fine print completely.
Imho, switching between 32 bit and 64 bit constantly is not a practical solution. :(
If you could kindly release a compatible 64 bit version of the cakewalk sound centre, I guess that will be a great help to many users. Kindly give it a second thought.
Warm regards
There isn't a 64-bit version of Sound Center available, but 64-bit SONAR should work fine with 32 or 64-bit plugins. So it's likely configuration related.
Try going to Edit > Preferences > MIDI > Playback and Recording
Under the 'Playback' section there is a setting called "Prepare using X millisecond buffers" where X is a number. Please double or triple that from your current setting, and test again.
Did you try freezing a 32-bit synth in 64-bit and seeing if the playback was fine?
1. I found the default value in the "Prepare using X millisecond buffers" is 250. So I increased that to tried with 500, 1000, 1500, 2000 even 5000. The restarted Sonar each time and double checked the value. But that didn't solve the cracks/ pops/ drops of 32bit synths.
2. I tried to freeze the track, but it encountered a serious problem and some 10 fault reporter windows opened and crashed the Sonar. However I reported the fault. You could check it at your convenience.
So I started all over again, and this time the synth was successfully frozen. The playback was smooth. But since the live playing was full of dropouts and cracking noise, that hampered the performance.
:(
It can be found under:
Edit > Preferences > Audio > Playback and Recording
I'm testing now on my system and I'm not experiencing any issues in regards to 32-bit synths in SONAR 64-bit. This is on the current live update 12.2017, but I've also tested on the forthcoming 01.2017 update and I'm not experiencing the issue.
If you switch back to ASIO after, it may be good to try resetting your config file. That is under:
Edit > Preferences > Audio > Configuration File : [Reset Config to Defaults]
Note, you'll need to make sure you are in the advanced settings.
No Seth.
Switching to WASAPI Exclusive made it worse in my case. I found lots of stutter, drop outs, and unacceptable latency.
So I reverted back to ASIO and did a confuguration reset.
Their is hardly any latency/ problem with any of the 64 bit synths like Rapture Session Pro, Z3TA+264, Roland Groove Synth , nothing.
Only 32 bit ones are causing problem.
kindly have a look at this snapshot. Sonar marked 32bit ones in yellow and they are causing the problems.
http://i.imgur.com/I7GV6AN.jpg
This won't really be a latency issue, the playback buffers are only related to processing before playback starts.
If you switch to WASAPI Exclusive and use the internal cards, not the Focusrite, are you experiencing the same issues? I want to isolate it if it's the interface or in general on the system.
Changed to WASAPI Exclusive , the cracks. dropout is gone, but it is unusable with a latency of 92 msec.
Changed to MME, no cracking , drop out problem, but the latency is 10+ msc
With ASIO + focusrite, the latency is only 2.9 msec and every 64 bit synths/ plugins are perfectly working.
What should I do now?
Okay, few things to try.
1. Make sure you have the latest drivers here: https://us.focusrite.com/downloads
2. 2.9msec, while really awesome looking on paper, is usually way to low to have solid reliable performance. Especially if there's a bit increased overhead with bitbridge.
I'd try to increase to buffer size up to around or just under 10ms. You shouldn't experience or feel any real latency with that. I tend to run around 7-9ms on most of my interfaces.
You'll want to click on the ASIO Panel inside the Edit > Preferences > Audio > Playback > Driver Settings and try relaxing the timings in there.
1. My audio device driver( plus Operating System Win 10 64 bit) is already up to date. (Yet I double checked on the focusrite site)
2. I increased the sample size to 256 and got a latency of 5.8ms.
If i increase the sample to 512 the latency goes above 11.6ms.
Even at that rate/latency, the problem is still there.
So I reverted back to 256 samples at 5.8ms latency.
3. I tested this Focusrite audio interface with FL studio, Abletan, Pro tools and even LMMS and audacity and that with two other PCs. It is working nicely with its default installation setting there.
So I can confirm that the device is okay. So is the driver.
4. I have already fully participated in your cakewalk analytics since the very beginning and hence you can personally identify my installation and connected devices, and the problems I am facing, I guess.
5. I am literally surprised that even with previous 2.9ms latency @ 128 samples ( the auto detected default setting of focusrite) , all the 64 bit synths are performing briliantly and I can easily play them live with my vocal recording ( and sometimes without freezing! perhaps because my PC spec is pretty capable? )
But whenever I load a 32bit synth, things start acting up.
So I am at my wit's end.
Awaiting your kind response,
Warm regards
I added a Z3TA+2_64 soft synth to the project. and every32 bit synths started working with the default setting.. No sparking noise, nothing.
Dropzone synth( 32 bit) is working brilliantly too.
I even added some prochannel modules but everything is working in real time. The system is handling the 32bit synths very smoothly like the 64bit ones with all the DSPs
I have no idea why.
Here is a screen shot of my project and the audio driver setting.
http://i.imgur.com/GaXzgKo.png
Kindly have a look at your convenience.
Warm regards.
I want to see if the bit bridged plug-in behavior is any different.
No Seth. There is no change in the behaviour of the 32bit Cakewalk Sound centre even after the update. It is still not usable until I add the Z3TA+2_64 soft synth to the project.
:(
Warm regards.