Isn't this just Fibbage, with no correct answer and less players? (Also jack.tv rant)

[HowDoUAim]

Like the title says. Fibbage was fun, but due to the host being the only one able to see the game screen, the only way to enjoy it was using Twitch, which has a significant delay that takes some getting used to. Will everyone actually get the full game screen in this one, or are you going to take the same approach to it as with Fibbage? If I have to use a browser to get a half-♥♥♥♥♥ game window that doesn't even show me everything, I'm not going to waste my time with this.

Also, why did you screw players on the Jackbox Party Pack for console? I bought it on Xbox One, and I can understand why Fibbage wouldn't work all on the same screen. But why would you make YDKJ require phones/tablets/browsers just to play on console? Worst decision ever.

Also, this is Steam. We shouldn't need to use a browser or phone to log into jack.tv to play online with random people. All this could be avoided and much more enjoyable if you weren't pushing your jack.tv app so hard on everybody who still cares about your games.

[HowDoUAim]

I apologize if it sounds like I'm just complaining, but I was very upset when I bought the Party Pack only to have every single game unplayable because I do not own a smartphone. My only option was to play from another room where my PC is. My friends were going to play too, grabbed their controllers, then said "screw it" once we realized we all needed a phone or PC just to play any of the games.

I also own YDKJ on Xbox 360, and that one is actually playable using controllers. Why would you remove this feature from newer versions? Anyway, I'm done ranting. You made your choice, and lost a fan for it. Tell Cookie Masterson I will miss him, and the good ol' days.

[Ricko]

Um, I think your missing the point of the games.

They are local party games, meant for a group to play in the same room (like Cards against Humanity) that kind of game.

[Cureacao]

Dude... the way to enjoy Jackbox games is with friends in the same room. They make party games; for parties. I think it's a brilliant choice to not give everyone the full screen. It makes the need for everyone to be in the same room which is how it is best enjoyed. It also focuses everyone away from their devices a bit and promotes interaction like all good party games should.

In regards to having to use the jackbox.tv site, why does this annoy you so much? What would you do instead? I think it's a smart system personally but I'd be interested to hear how you think it should be done.

Overall I think you just expect Jackbox games to be something they're not. They're not designed to be played outside the context of a local room. YDKJ is the exception, but even still it's more enjoyable with everyone in the same room.

[HowDoUAim]

That's my whole point. If the idea is to have fun with friends in the same room, why can't we use controllers to play YDKJ? I get why this wouldn't work with Fibbage, but everyone using their phones just to select an answer in YDKJ is pointless when the older versions let you use controllers, and you didn't all have to sign in to jack.tv on your phones to play a simple trivia game.

[Abolish the Penny]

The description in the Xbox One store makes it clear that you need a phone, tablet, or computer to use as a controller (link to game description[i.imgur.com])

Smartphone penetration in the US is ~75%; among the target audience age range closer to 85%. That number is going to go up if you include people who don't have smartphones but do have a tablet in the house or a laptop. So it's not like their expectation was well outside of the mainstream.

I get that it must be super annoying to buy something that doesn't work and I personally wouldn't mind if they added controller support to the YDKJ component of JackBox Party Pack, but it's something that's stated upfront and I don't think it's a big hurdle for most potential customers. It's far more likely, for example, that a group will have multiple smartphones than multiple controllers.

The rant is also sort of off-topic; you don't seem to mind that Fibbage requires a phone, so it's not like you want controller support for this game... Edit: I mean, the common element here is that both this and Fibbage require text-based user input in private, which wouldn't work with a shared screen and controllers... (End Edit) so this is kinda like going into a thread for Cities Skylines to complain about Europa Universalis or something.

The biggest worry I think for most users with JackBox.tv is that if in the future, heaven forbid, stuff doesn't go well with future JackBox games, they could pull the service.

[ddrawnn]

I've managed just fine playing this with friends with the use of Steam Broadcasting/Skype screenshare. Sure, there's a bit of a delay, but it works for the most part for games like Fibbage and Drawful. Skype screenshare seems to have the least delay, however, doesn't have any sound.

[HowDoUAim]

I agree with most of what you said, Stumpo. However, general stats on how many people own smart phones does not apply to me, as I do not. I realize I am one of the minority who does not, and you can't make everyone happy, but I still feel that implementing controller support for YDKJ would not have been that tough. And yes, it does digress from the main topic, especially on a forum for Quiplash discussion, so I apologize for that. But I felt that if I was ever going to voice my opinion to the guys behind these games, it might as well be on the same thread where I try to figure out, "is this game really that much different from Fibbage?"

I also agree Hazzardouz that Twitch or other broadcasting methods aren't very tough to play on. But I didn't need to buy the game to play with random people on Twitch. In fact, I can probably play this game for free by looking for Twitch games as well, so I won't be spending any money.

However, as I mentioned earlier, my friends didn't even want to play YDKJ when they found out everyone had to have a smart phone to play. Not everyone wants to kill their phone battery on a game that could just as easily use controllers to accomplish the exact same thing. So as you can imagine, using Steam Broadcast/Skype Screenshare is definitely out of the question for playing with my rl friends. As with Fibbage, I will either resort to playing Quiplash with random people on Twitch, or not playing the game at all.

[cartman91]

Originally posted by HowDoUAim:

but I still feel that implementing controller support for YDKJ would not have been that tough.

Dude, these are party games of course you are going to need something other than a controller... If you where using a controller everyone would know what you are typing?...

[HowDoUAim]

Originally posted by cartman91:

Dude, these are party games of course you are going to need something other than a controller... If you where using a controller everyone would know what you are typing?...

On everything but YDKJ (You Don't Know Jack). I own YDKJ for Xbox 360 and it works just fine with 4 controllers. Each answer has a unique button, so your answer stays anonymous. The other games wouldn't work, but I've already said that.

[Jackbox Games]

We went with the smartphone approach for all the games for many reasons. Like others have stated, we didnt want our fans to have to by mulitple $50-$60 controllers to play. We thought that using devices would be the best solution but we know that isnt possible for everybody. These choices arent easy to make as developers and we did our best for our fans. We have heard from many about controller support for YDKJ and will take that into account for future YDKJ titles. Thanks for supporting our games!

[HowDoUAim]

Thanks for the reply. I'm sure the phones made the most sense with a majority of the games, so it seemed like a simple decision. I realize most people do own phones and can enjoy your game more conveniently with one. I just assumed controller functionality was something your previous YDKJ titles had, so it would be included. Plus battery life can be an issue with phones, but on controllers you can just put new batteries in and you're good to go.

I'll keep an eye on Quiplash though, because if it gets a Twitch following I'll have people to play with, and it does seem like an interesting game.

[Jackbox Games]

Originally posted by HowDoUAim:

Thanks for the reply. I'm sure the phones made the most sense with a majority of the games, so it seemed like a simple decision. I realize most people do own phones and can enjoy your game more conveniently with one. I just assumed controller functionality was something your previous YDKJ titles had, so it would be included. Plus battery life can be an issue with phones, but on controllers you can just put new batteries in and you're good to go.

I'll keep an eye on Quiplash though, because if it gets a Twitch following I'll have people to play with, and it does seem like an interesting game.

Thanks for the feedback, we will keep it in mind for future YDKJ games

[b0nk]

Jackbox Games im not complaining but some people have to moniters and don't want to vote and re-open the game can you make it we're it is regularly windowed borderless mode?