OMG ! is this a "remake" of return to castle wolfstein ?

[adam west]

I really got the vibe of a "soft" remake /prequel. They really need to do something with the esoteric side, and the ending cliffhanger got me pumped we might get it !!!

[DogMeat]

Kind of. There is an odd continuity thing going on. New Order draws heavily on Wolfenstein 2009... its an obvious sequel to that game. That game was a sequel to RtCW. Not only that but New Order made one direct reference to RtCW where BJ talks about swimming through Deathshead's X-Labs in Norway. That would suggest the events of RtCW happened in the New Order timeline, yet this new game moves the location of Castle Wolfenstein to the other side of the country and is rebooting the character of Helga Von Bulow to Helga Von Schabbs. Not to mention its basically following the locations and plot of the first two chapters of RtCW.

So... its kind of a reboot and a sequel to RtCW. Things should be more clear when it comes out.

Yes I'm a huge Wolfenstein nerd.

[spartan_n117]

no

[Scurvynutz]

引用自 spartan_n117：

no

yes

[Lestrad]

And here I was hoping for a sequel, but I'll take a prequel too.

[TheDeathDealer1029]

It certainly feels like a bit of a remake of Return to Castle Woflenstein. You get to actually got to castle Wolfenstein and then to Wulfburg to stop Nazi archeoligists. You basically do that at the beginning of RTCW. You escape from the castle then end up in Wulfburg where you fight all that supernatural stuff in the crypts below the city. Continunity for Wolfenstein is all over the place though.

[FubarHouse]

I'm hopeful they include the stories pertaining to TNO in relation to Carolyne.
If they were to include this, it would officially make TNO/TOB the start of the "reboot".

[DJMatus]

Thanks for clarifying that Dog Meat!!

[Nedly Dedly]

This game is more like some kind of throwback to earlier games in the series. Mostly Wolfenstein 2009 and RTCW.

[taeles]

引用自 DogMeat：

Kind of. There is an odd continuity thing going on. New Order draws heavily on Wolfenstein 2009... its an obvious sequel to that game. That game was a sequel to RtCW. Not only that but New Order made one direct reference to RtCW where BJ talks about swimming through Deathshead's X-Labs in Norway. That would suggest the events of RtCW happened in the New Order timeline, yet this new game moves the location of Castle Wolfenstein to the other side of the country and is rebooting the character of Helga Von Bulow to Helga Von Schabbs. Not to mention its basically following the locations and plot of the first two chapters of RtCW.

So... its kind of a reboot and a sequel to RtCW. Things should be more clear when it comes out.

Yes I'm a huge Wolfenstein nerd.

Yes you are, and you are awesome for it :)

[Michael Cera Sippy Time]

Nice! I really enjoyed the last installment. Was twisted in all the right ways. Looking forward to some more.

[SpyroGuy]

引用自 DogMeat：

yet this new game moves the location of Castle Wolfenstein to the other side of the country and is rebooting the character of Helga Von Bulow to Helga Von Schabbs.

OR the castle was rebuilt somewhere else, considering it's fate in Wolf '09 while the woman's name could be just a coincidence.
The castle itself can't be at the same place as the valley containing the tram thing is much larger and wider than it's RTCW counterpart. I consider it a sequel, not a reboot.

[FubarHouse]

引用自 SpyroGuy：

引用自 DogMeat：

yet this new game moves the location of Castle Wolfenstein to the other side of the country and is rebooting the character of Helga Von Bulow to Helga Von Schabbs.

OR the castle was rebuilt somewhere else, considering it's fate in Wolf '09 while the woman's name could be just a coincidence.
The castle itself can't be at the same place as the valley containing the tram thing is much larger and wider than it's RTCW counterpart. I consider it a sequel, not a reboot.

Helga Von Bulow made an appearance in RTCW.
Dr. Schabbs was a boss in Wolf3d.
It's said that the inspiration for Wilhelm Strasse was in fact Dr. Schabbs.
Gretel and Hans Grösse were also bosses in Wolf3D, and Hans Grosse in Wolf09(?).
Trans Grösse was a boss in Spear of Destiny.

I'm curious to know if the Grösse family of Wolf3D/SOD is related and will carry over to the this package in any way...
Also to see if Willhelm Strasse is in any way associated to Helga Von Schabbs, given the relationship in character development...

[DogMeat]

引用自 SpyroGuy：

OR the castle was rebuilt somewhere else, considering it's fate in Wolf '09 while the woman's name could be just a coincidence.
The castle itself can't be at the same place as the valley containing the tram thing is much larger and wider than it's RTCW counterpart. I consider it a sequel, not a reboot.

I've heard a few people claim that the castle in 09 was Wolfenstin... but is that ever said anywhere? I think it was just an unnamed castle added because it was a Wolfenstein game and ya gotta have a castle! If you do know that it IS Castle Wolfenstein please point out where you got that info as I've always assumed the fictional town of Isenstadt and its castle were entirely different to Wulfburg and Castle Wolfenstein.

As for it being moved from the Harz Mountains of Northern Germany to the Bavarian Alps of Southern Germany thats a pretty big thing to do in the 3 years between RtCW (May 1943) and The New Blood (May 1946). Yes I realize its a bit goofy to complain about the realism of moving an entire castle in 3 years when they're also building super mechs and robo dogs at the time. Its possible it was nothing more than an oversight, with the devs of Old Blood not realizing that in RtCW they totally point out where the castle is located in the briefing.

The name COULD be a coincidence, but really, practically the same name with a similar profession. Von Bulow was head of the SS Paranormal Division while Von Schabbs is described simply as an Archaeologist though thats pretty much what Van Bulow was doing.

I don't really mind either way if this is sequel, reboot or a bit of both... but the evidence is really pointing to a reboot of at least the first two chapters of RtCW.

[PocketYoda]

引用自 DogMeat：

Kind of. There is an odd continuity thing going on. New Order draws heavily on Wolfenstein 2009... its an obvious sequel to that game. That game was a sequel to RtCW. Not only that but New Order made one direct reference to RtCW where BJ talks about swimming through Deathshead's X-Labs in Norway. That would suggest the events of RtCW happened in the New Order timeline, yet this new game moves the location of Castle Wolfenstein to the other side of the country and is rebooting the character of Helga Von Bulow to Helga Von Schabbs. Not to mention its basically following the locations and plot of the first two chapters of RtCW.

So... its kind of a reboot and a sequel to RtCW. Things should be more clear when it comes out.

Yes I'm a huge Wolfenstein nerd.

Which kind of sucks if people haven't played Wolf 09 because then they've missed the whole first act, and now its been pulled off of steam they are just shooting themselves in the foot for bad reviews..

Customers will be clueless of the complete story..

[Ypulse]

i think this game is more like the game Far cry 3 the blood dragon was but longer