Wolfenstein: The Old Blood

Wolfenstein: The Old Blood

O6 Lima Jan 31, 2017 @ 11:31am
Symbolism of the mouse
We all can see that there is a clear sense of repetiton of the mouse moving about in the game; but what does it symbolise?

The mouse is clearly being used as a symbol as the camera zooms in on it every chapter just curious on what it means, and i wanna hear your opinions.

My guess is that it follows where you go kinda like his past or something. Post below :D

Also what is the word for a repeated symbol? :P Edit: motif
Last edited by O6 Lima; Feb 19, 2017 @ 6:12am
Originally posted by Kohchu:
I come back to say; the Symbolism of the mouse is explained fully in Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus.

When B.J. was younger, he met a girl named Billy. During that time, one day, he found a Rat drowning in a bucket. Billy tells him he's drowning and begs B.J. to save him, to which B.J. replies, "he's just a rat. They're gross, and they eat our crops." Billy horrified, insists it's wrong. B.J. finally kicks the bucket over, and saves the Rat.

The symbolism of the mouse reflects the thought process of the Nazis. They felt anyone coloured was the same as a rat; dirty, useless and disposable. The Rat symbolizes valuing life, no matter how small, or large. And always respecting life, no matter how inferior they seem.
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BluesyMoo Jan 31, 2017 @ 5:15pm 
I just assume the mouse wants to cook me dinner.
Kohchu Feb 7, 2017 @ 12:48pm 
I think it's supposed to represent the fact that the main hero; is a mouse in the lions den.

In this case; a Lone Commando in enemy territory.
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O6 Lima Feb 8, 2017 @ 4:37am 
Thats a great one!
shiel Feb 17, 2017 @ 12:30am 
Originally posted by Shadowlord90 (Nikolai):
I think it's supposed to represent the fact that the main hero; is a mouse in the lions den.

In this case; a Lone Commando in enemy territory.
I get what you are saying but I can't agree... I can't look at BJ as being a mouse in the lions den when he is literally the most badass killer to ever live(in the game).
I think it symbolises you are about to get hit with a rock.

He gets hit with rocks a lot does Blazcowitz.
Jo Mar 2, 2017 @ 4:34pm 
I thought it was a rat. lol.
I think the rat is happy to see someone destroying the Nazis, and quite frankly wants to get out of those pits too.
Miller Feb 5, 2018 @ 10:18am 
I got the impression it's a nod towards the holocaust as the nazis used to call all the Jews etc. Rats. Whenever you see the rat it always plays a sad piano. I think it's to make people remember the terrible horrible things the nazis did. I think it would cause outrage if the game developers had nazis killing minorities and races to show the monstrosities they did. So I think this is a subtle way of them reminding us to never forget what horrible people the nazis are.
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Kohchu Jul 16, 2018 @ 3:43pm 
I come back to say; the Symbolism of the mouse is explained fully in Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus.

When B.J. was younger, he met a girl named Billy. During that time, one day, he found a Rat drowning in a bucket. Billy tells him he's drowning and begs B.J. to save him, to which B.J. replies, "he's just a rat. They're gross, and they eat our crops." Billy horrified, insists it's wrong. B.J. finally kicks the bucket over, and saves the Rat.

The symbolism of the mouse reflects the thought process of the Nazis. They felt anyone coloured was the same as a rat; dirty, useless and disposable. The Rat symbolizes valuing life, no matter how small, or large. And always respecting life, no matter how inferior they seem.
Last edited by Kohchu; Jul 16, 2018 @ 3:49pm
O6 Lima Jul 16, 2018 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by Shadowlord90 (Nikolai):
I come back to say; the Symbolism of the mouse is explained fully in Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus.

When B.J. was younger, he met a girl named Billy. During that time, one day, he found a Rat drowning in a bucket. Billy tells him he's drowning and begs B.J. to save him, to which B.J. replies, "he's just a rat. They're gross, and they eat our crops." Billy horrified, insists it's wrong. B.J. finally kicks the bucket over, and saves the Rat.

The symbolism of the mouse reflects the thought process of the Nazis. They felt anyone coloured was the same as a rat; dirty, useless and disposable. The Rat symbolizes valuing life, no matter how small, or large. And always respecting life, no matter how inferior they seem.
Thats the best explanation ive seen, thank you
Syrrah Jul 23, 2018 @ 12:18am 
There isn't always a deeper meaning. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

The rat must represent the escape, out of the Nazi prison. Maybe a nod to the typical comment about FPS that "every level is just a huge maze". BJ and his furry companian are both rats in a maze, always getting closer to the exit.
Kohchu Jul 23, 2018 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Syrrah:
There isn't always a deeper meaning. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

The rat must represent the escape, out of the Nazi prison. Maybe a nod to the typical comment about FPS that "every level is just a huge maze". BJ and his furry companian are both rats in a maze, always getting closer to the exit.

Actually. It does have a meaning. It was in Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus. Quote:


When B.J. was younger, he met a girl named Billy. During that time, one day, he found a Rat drowning in a bucket. Billy tells him he's drowning and begs B.J. to save him, to which B.J. replies, "he's just a rat. They're gross, and they eat our crops." Billy horrified, insists it's wrong. B.J. finally kicks the bucket over, and saves the Rat.

The symbolism of the mouse reflects the thought process of the Nazis. They felt anyone coloured was the same as a rat; dirty, useless and disposable. The Rat symbolizes valuing life, no matter how small, or large. And always respecting life, no matter how inferior they seem.
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