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3 arguably has a more immersive story mode, whereas 4 uses a timeline-style system. 3's story mode is like an adventure mode seen in Storm 4, but covers the proper plot of events at that point in the story line.
If you're playing mainly for the story, 3 might be the safe bet... but if you're playing for the all-around experience, Storm 4 wins every time.
Not on my PC.
First thing that came to mind, I swear.
Pros of 3:
More stable game, better optimized for pc.
In one package, all extra content and DLC is available, plus for a reasonable price.
Larger story mode, contains part from the childhood era (you unlock them later), feels more complete.
Cons of 3:
Old game.
Dead multiplayer (there are still some people around though).
Not real ending, cliffhanger and non-canon scenario (kages defeat madara, while in anime they got their ash handed to them).
Pros of 4:
Great for consoles.
Flashy and new.
Contains the real war story and ending to it.
More complete roster and fully updated.
Permanent awakening and endless kunai thrown in multiplayer, glitch abuse (for some people, this is in cons).
Cons of 4:
Terrible multiplayer implementation.
Terrible pc-port, abysmal optimization (after 3 updates and it still isn't how it had been supposed to be initially, let alone devs' promises for a product specifically made for pc, horseradish lies bull).
It's not even complete package; not only you need to purchase a season pass separately, but also a new expansion coming in February, separately that, too (someone pulled a Kakuzu style bounty hunt on the fanbase's wallets, didn't they, what is the big idea with all this abusing dividing, overcharging monetizing sit?).
All in all, 3 was the best entry in steam titles of the storm series. Unless February expansion of 4 corrects remaining issues and makes the game a better, more stable experience, which i somehow seriously doubt...
Stop trying to game on a potato, you'll realize Storm 4 is more stable.
The DLC for S3FB is mostly costumes, with one extra character and an extra story mission. Storm 4's DLC entitles you to all of that, including more costumes, more Team UJs, and 4 extra characters to play as. Not only that, but it's buy 2 get 1 free with the season pass. Plus, with RTB releasing, we're getting 5 or 6, maybe more, characters including a revamped story mode made for the Boruto Saga.
Plus, Steam Sales. Storm 4 was 75% off recently. Hell, you could've grabbed both games for 75% off. It's worth the cost.
The childhood era is anything but complete as they're just regular fights. The rest of the story mode is better than Storm 4 in a sense of cutscenes, but Storm 4's boss battles wildly surpass 3's.
You do realize it released only two years ago, right? It's not that old. You act like it's your dead grandpa or something.
It's actually quite active. In fact, if there are some people around, how is it dead? I think you like to exaggerate a lot.
The only valid thing so far in your argument.
Everything except "great for consoles" is true. You just run a potato, hence you think that.
They aren't glitches, they're exploits. People are exploiting the logical consequence of having Leader Switches. Of course, why would I expect someone running a potato thinking consoles > PC to understand this?
Why? It takes more resources on your PC, hence online takes more bandwith. That's just logic. Also, they're adding back 8 person endless and spectator mode anyways.
Terrible PC port, yes. Abysmal optimization? No. They optimized the game to be able to run full speed on less than HALF of what it originally required. Again, you're running a potato, so your opinion is invalid.
And they didn't promise to make it specifically for PC, they said they wanted to. If anything, the devs didn't lie. Bandai Namco, the publishers, told them that they can't do it after the interview. Of course, why would I expect you to have a brain when you still think consoles > PC?
Uh, no. It IS a complete package. The DLC and RTB are what's called expansions. If you buy a car that doesn't have Wi-Fi and realize that you have to add a modem in it to do that, is the car suddenly incomplete? Of course not, it's an expansion. If you don't care about the extra TUJs, sound 4, and costumes, just don't buy it. That doesn't make the game less complete. And in fact, the Sound 4 aren't even in the story mode.
If you aren't counting Revolution and Storm 4, where Storm 3 is literally the worst entry in the Steam titles of the Storm series.
Obviously you didn't do your research before posting this, as illustrated by this statement.
2) I never liked consoles. I am a pc master race freak. I wasn't saying "I prefer its PS4 version" to pay a compliment to consoles, but throw a spit over the mess that the PC version of the game is into, instead. Yes, they corrected "some" things. Yes, it is more stable. It needs more work on those patches/fixes/updates, still, though!
3) Reviews only recently escaped the "red" zone. After updates. And still, only slightly. This is saying much. As i said, i preordered and i had been both overhyped, plus one of the biggest Naruto fans this side. I can't take garbage in, though and pretend it is valuables! Garbage is garbage, work is work, update is update. They are working towards the right direction, though, i never said they weren't trying (to fix their mess; what a terrible launch, back in the day...). Reviews of 3, are always high and in healthy blue. This is saying much, as well.
4) Revolution was a random filler episode and even broke gameplay down to cr@ppy limitations. Hadn't i been a diehard Naruto fan, i would never touch it. Thankfully, it was much smoother and much more stable than 4, or else i would have refunded that, as well.
5) About your view on complete packages and consumer-friendly deals, just please reconsider. People like you drive developers into the dark side of greed, overmilking, overleeching and parasitizing on all of us, with our ignorance, passiveness and naivety. Other developers constantly offer COMPLETE packages with all content inside, under ONE FAIR price! Instead of praising them and their practices, instead, you choose to bash on those who raise their policy as an example to be imitated. Here, you are hurting gamers, buyers, consumers and at the same time, giving a helping hand to people doing the dlc-barrage malpractice. Like preorders, this is an abominable custom that grew up on us over time and we ended up heralding it as absolutely normal, to be expected, even "fair". NO, it isn't! Stop supporting those (mal)practices and go reward people offering better deals, instead! Set an example and vote with your wallet, instead of shouting "shut up and take my money" for random, incomplete, malfunctioning even, products!
6) Facts straight. Full Burst extra content wasn't costumes only. It was an entire sub-story addition, new character, complete graphic overhaul/improvement in cutscenes, plethora of new missions and challenges and then, 38 new costumes.
http://www.ign.com/wikis/naruto-shippuden-ultimate-ninja-storm-3/Full_Burst_DLC
This, is a real DLC that is worth to get, especially since it is already inside the game itself and you don't have to purchase it extra. THIS, is how the DLC business should be handled and implemented, not cutting down in endless little pieces with meaningless content (like revolution costumes and cosmetics only trash) and overpricing each one of them!
7) Also, in February, consoles get a COMPLETE edition of 4, containing core game WITH preorder exclusives, Season Pass and expansion. THIS, is worth to get. This, is what i am waiting for. IF they don't choose to shaft us pc-users again by not bringing the compilation here in one piece. Its console price is 50 bucks. Still expensive, but if they offer the complete thing, that would be worth it. I am getting that, when it arrives.
You're saying you don't have a potato yet you don't even quote your specs. You're saying it's the game's fault yet you are referring to a pirated copy. Do you even have a brain?
Let me just entertain your mindless accusations here for a bit. If you get crashing, your drivers are possibly buggy. Whether or not it's the latest drivers, they could be buggy. AMD R9 380s had this issue because their latest driver was ♥♥♥♥, so people had to downgrade to run most games. If you get frame drops, you don't have 1GB DDR3 VRAM and a CPU good enough to handle the game. Simple as that. Of course, if you were willing to give me a benchmark of the current version with your PC specs, I won't even entertain you on the topic of you not having a potato.
You're a "PC Master Race Freak" yet you can't even run Storm 4. That's laughable.
You're saying that it needs more work. Guess what? So does everything. There's literally no perfect game. If you were expecting Storm 4 to be perfect, you might as well be waiting for Half Life 3 to release at this point. They didn't just correct "some" things, they corrected a lot of problems that came up in Storm 3/R when it came to, not only their PC porting, but also their gameplay in general. The inclusion of Leader Switching, the separation of support types so every character has their own STORM Gauge action, counters now sending the other player flying, and more are good incentives to buy this over Storm 3/R.
Reviews only "recently" escaped the red zone? That's not true, they escaped the red zone after Update 2 in which they changed the minimum system requirements to require less than HALF of the original hardware. Most of the red zone was by people on Intel HD Graphics anyways, so the initial red zone was stupid to begin with anyways.
And here's where you should admit your flaws. YOU got overhyped, YOU preordered based on overhype, and YOU let this game disappoint you. I preordered the game and wasn't at all disappointed with it. It met my expectations of what a fighting game sequel should be. Instead, you prefer to overrate games with better graphics and story mode. How about you never touch a fighting game, nor a discussion board for a fighting game, in your life again? Thank you.
It didn't break any gameplay down to limitations. It's not more stable than Storm 4. Nothing you said here had any reasoning at all. You literally just said that Storm R limited gameplay and was smoother than Storm 4, yet gave no examples as to why. In fact, I can tell you that both of those are wrong right off the bat.
Storm R didn't limit gameplay, if anything it made it more flexible. Easy UJ Cancels (not requiring a dodge beforehand), separating into three types where ultimate has UJs and TUJs, awakenings have IA and UA, and drive type where you can switch between offensive and defensive support actions, the inclusion of the "block dodge" system that allows escaping blockstrings to be a possible thing, and the counter move that punishes B-Mashers while also forcing you to lose 1/4 of your recoverable chakra temporarily to create a risk-reward system, and more. These aren't limiting, they add flexibility.
All I hear from you right here is emotion. You're saying I'm driving them to greed, overmilking, blah blah. The problem is that none of that applied here. In fact, they're literally supporting a game that's got a dead community for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FREE. They're even adding a patch for all Storm 4 owners, whether or not they buy RTB.
And again, you're telling me that bs again about it not being complete. Expansion packs don't make a game less complete. Storm 4 is actually complete, save for the story mode cutscenes. Why should Story Mode matter that much in fighting games? Trick question, they shouldn't. The combat was complete, and further sharpened with later updates. Just because they decided to add expansions later doesn't make it a less complete game. In fact, weren't you guys in the UNS community BEGGING for DLC in Storm 2/G days, only to complain about the addition of DLC in Storm 3 days? Ah, good old times.
And again, the game is one fair price. It was recently 75% off even recently. If you buy this game, it doesn't require you to buy the DLC, those are completely optional. That's not incomplete, that's called options. If you don't like options, you might as well be called a Console Peasant, because that's the mindset of a Console Peasant: "I don't want options, I want to settle on whatever I get for this one price every year."
I'm not hurting gamers, you're just being overemotional about this all. DLC is fair because it's optional. You don't have to buy it. Nobody said you have to buy it. And it's not even a barrage like you say it is. They literally released 3 packs, and gave you an offer of buy two get one extra free. Oh, and by the way, "vote with your wallet" doesn't ever work. Wanna know why? Because there are people who don't give a ♥♥♥♥ and just want to play a game. Those mindless drones ruin the concept of "vote with your wallet", so you might as well stop preaching about things you don't know about.
Full Burst: $40 MSRP, $10 Upgrade from Storm 3 (Console Only)
-Included all costumes
-One boss fight
-One character
-100 missions to bloat the package
Road To Boruto: $40 MSRP, $20 Upgrade from Storm 4 (Console AND PC)
-Includes all costumes
-Multiple boss fights, including an added whole ARC of story content.
-Five, or more if possible, new characters
-Oh no, we don't have those 100 "missions" to bloat the package! (Oh wait, they might actually do it)
-Includes free patch to iron out the wrinkles in the game.
You dug your own grave on this one. Remember what you said about "bad practices" here.
Uh, no. They don't get preorder exclusives. Pre-Order Boruto and Sarada are nothing alike from RTB Boruto and Sarada. If you had eyes, you would've seen that from the trailer. Not only are their move sets and jutsus different, they likely have different ultimates too.
And again, you're acting like them not piecing it into one is a bad thing. If the game was on sale for 50% off (Around $30) and you bought the DLC in the season pass and RTB at the same deal, that would be $50. Remember what you said about "complete packages" here. You're literally saying that it's not worth it if they don't "bundle" them together for you and instead offer them for the same price as the bundle would cost with the added extra, what, 30 seconds to add them to the cart? Again, you're being overemotional about this all
b) About the DLC comparison, as i said, Full Burst was MERGED inside the main game and sold together, in a very reasonable price too, for pc version. For pc version, getting the DLC separately, wasn't even possible, to begin with. What exactly didn't you understand and begun the comparison, above? If and when road to boruto comes as one package with main game in good price, much like full burst, i will agree with you then. But here you honestly missed the point and intentionally derailed to a pointless comparison of content quantity, not game-selling model, which was my argument for.
c) Seriously, dude, where are you getting your information from?
http://gematsu.com/2016/11/naruto-shippuden-ultimate-ninja-storm-4-road-boruto-physical-release-announced-north-america
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2016/11/road-to-boruto-will-include-naruto-storm-4-pre-order-bonuses/
To spell it out for you, here is the specific part you need to know:
"Bandai Namco Entertainment America has announced Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4: Road to Boruto will be hitting to retailers as a standalone, physical game for PS4 and Xbox One! It will be priced at $49.99 and will include the full Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 game along with the pre-order bonuses for the game (Boruto, Sarada, Sixth Hokage Kakashi costume), the 3 DLC packs (Gaara’s Tale Extra Scenario Pack, Shikamaru’s Tale Extra Scenario Pack, and the Sound Four Extra Playable Character’s Pack), and the exclusive Road to Boruto expansion pack content."
Happy supporting liars and cons? Console is getting all candy, we get maggoty bread. Preorder "exclusives", right... Now consolekids just hand out 49,99$ and enjoy everything. While you here for pc, paid: 50 for base game, 20 for season pass and prepare to throw 20 more for standalone expansion, in most probability still lacking those "preorder exclusives", unlike the physical complete console pack.
Whatever. If steam here gets the complete package, i am deleting my post, right here and proceed to buy it. If not, i will be reading yours in the future and having a good laugh. Supporting people out of fandom is one thing, but supporting them while they support others and take advantage of you, is so beyond me...
It offers flexibility because it gives you options. Instead of being limited to a pre-determined style of gameplay, they give you 3. Ultimate Type focuses more on being stylish over technical. Awakening type focuses more on cancelling moves into tech for more technical over stylish play. Drive type focuses on the "jack of all trades" where it lets you play offensively and defensively to your choice. This creates flexibility.
And before you say "well storm 3 had all of that minus TUJs!", that's actually a problem. Let me ask you a question about game design real quick here. What is the definition of balance? It's where characters are relatively the same strength, or the usefulness of strengths vs weaknesses is even when compared to other characters. Now tell me this: Does a balanced fighting game make a good fighting game, balance-wise? You'd think yes, but that's wrong. First of all, if everyone's weak as ♥♥♥♥, nobody will want to play your game, especially not at tournaments where scheduling is everything, because it takes 4 hours to play one round. Likewise, if everyone has a death-touch, that's also bad balancing. That makes the game too easy and thus doesn't bring out the finer qualities of tech skill in the game. Instead, it comes down to "who pressed X button first at Y frames after starting?"
So in Storm 3's case, everyone has everything. That's a problem because that means everyone literally has everything. In a sense, imagine if everyone in SSB Melee had Fox's shine. Sure, it'd be a lot more balanced than it is currently, but it would be bad balancing as there are better ways to go about balancing besides giving everyone access to a frame 1 hitbox tool that deals a lot of diagonal momentum downward and away. Instead, Storm Revolution balances out that ideaology by separating in the 3 parts, hence why they're that way. If you don't like it, you don't have to play it. Just because you don't like it though, don't tell people that it's objectively worse or "more restrictive" when it isn't. You're being overemotional and letter your opinions cloud your judgement.
Of course, I have evidence to back up what I'm saying, but you have yet to prove that you know what flexibility is, "PC Master Race Freak"
Again, that's not a good thing. Storm 3 literally forced you to buy every bit of the Full Burst bundle instead of picking and choosing what you wanted from Full Burst like they did with consoles. Sure, it was "reasonable pricing", but ultimately buying Storm 3 + Full Burst Upgrade would've been just as reasonable as Storm 3 had a price drop to $20-30 where the FB upgrade was only $10. You can't honestly tell me that everyone wanted those costumes and that everyone felt like it was fair to receive that content despite not wanting it, right?
On the other hand, Storm 4 will likely be 50-75% off during the winter, maybe even less. That's around $15-30 already. Not only that, but the season pass always goes on sale when the main game does for the same price reduction, so that will cost upwards $5-10 as well. Maximum you're spending $40, assuming they were only reduced to 50% off which is doubtful for winter sales on Steam.
Now take that and compare it to RTB which will likely be on a valentines day sale as well. Sure, if you take the worst case scenario of "it's not on sale and the game itself with season pass is 50% off", you spend $60. That's the amount you would be paying for the full game without sales anyways. Not only that, but factoring in how winter sales will likely reduce it more, and how there will be some form of valentine's day sale, it would be less.
And here you are ignoring the question I posed to you in the previous post:
Why would you turn down an offer where you can get Storm 4 for $20, season pass for $10, and RTB for $10 (Totaling to $50 since you obviously suck at math) if it didn't come with an option to get a bundle of the 3 for the same price (Again, same price $50, because you suck at reading, too)?
(Possible) Bundle - $50
Separated purchases - $50
If the bundle wasn't an option, you'd turn down the entire game? That's not a reasonable thing to say. In fact, that's just you clouding your judgement from your opinions and emotions. Again, you're being overemotional here.
You're seriously relying on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Saiyan Island for your sources? I'd rather rely on an official trailer rather than Saiyan ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Island. They say it includes Boruto, Sarada, and Sixth Hokage Kakashi, but there's where problems arise. Again, there's a clear difference between Pre-Order Boruto/Sarada and RTB Boruto/Sarada. Saiyan Island is one of the worst websites to get your sources from because RTB's trailer showed a completely different move set for Boruto, Hokage Naruto, and Wanderer Sasuke. Hell, you can find this in the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ demo footage too. It's right there in front of your eyes in visual format and yet you rely on inaccurate sources known for posting diarrhea to get "quick and cheap" views, and mixing/matching their own speculation with official news to make it sound better. Remember, Saiyan Island were the ones that said Edo Kages would be playable in Storm 3, not CC2. The trailer clearly showed "FIGHT AGAINST THE EDO KAGES", it said nothing about them being playable. Despite this, Saiyan Island said they were playable and instantly made everyone think that they were. That's not CC2's fault, that's Saiyan Island's fault.
Obviously you have a clear lack of reliability checks when quoting sources.
"If they bundle everything and throw it at me for the same price as the separated package would be, I'll shut up and take whatever they say to take. Of course, I'm going to laugh at you if you respond with your silly logic and reasoning, without validating my source's reliability whatsoever.
Supporting people that aren't me is one thing, but if you support them and do something I don't like, I'm going to act like every Naruto fan agrees with me and hates this!"
Let me be clear here, that's exactly what your statement sounds like. First of all, I'm a Naruto fan. I've followed the series since the start and have played the games since the very first Clash of Ninja game. I have the entire Clash of Ninja series, along with the legitimate disc version of GNT 4. I have Ninja Council 2, 3, 4, AND the Japan release of 3 that had the Search for Sasuke Arc included. I have Ultimate Ninja 2-4 and used to play 1 a long time ago as well. I have legitimate cartridges of Jump Ultimate Stars and Jump Super Stars for my Nintendo DS (That also works on my 3DS as DS carts lack region locking, even on 3DS). I have Naruto Ninja Destiny 1 AND 2. I have Naruto Uzumaki Chronicles 2 and played 1 a long time ago as well. I've emulated GNT 3, EX1, EX2, EX3, Special, Ultimate Ninja 5, Ninjutsu Zenkai Chakra Rush/Shinobi Rumble (BOTH regions), and Dairansen Kagebunshin. I own all of the Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm franchise, including 1, 2, Generations, 3 (With full burst upgrade), and Revolution on PS3 while still having 3FB, Revolution, and 4 on PC. There's no way you CAN'T call me a Naruto fan.
The fact that you're grouping every Naruto fan together into one stereotype and saying that they all are getting "taken advantage of" or that they "don't like what CC2 is doing" is simply beyond me. Do you even realize what you're doing here? By doing this, you're part of the problem, not the solution. Just because YOU are unsatisfied with something doesn't mean that other people who happen to be similar to you are unsatisfied. In fact, it's quite the contrary: Most Naruto fans actually like Storm 4 and are waiting for Road To Boruto. The only reason Online is dead was because of modders, lag switchers, potato PC players (Like you), and people who have Internet on the level of phone hotspot speed. To this day, I have over 100 hours of gameplay into Storm 4 while Steam was in online mode, and 2x that amount when Steam was in offline mode. So just think about this when you're crying yourself to sleep that you've been "taken advantage of" by being given the simple option of picking and choosing what you want out of a game, ignoring the fact that the game not only goes on sale for 30% off and cheaper CONSTANTLY, but the season pass along with it for the same sale amount.
EDIT: And just to illustrate my point further about you not knowing what you're talking about: You have literally 64 hours in Storm 3. You played Storm 3 less than I've played any of the Storm games separately. You've played Storm 3 less than I've played Storm 3 the month it released. Hell, you've played Storm 3 less than I've even played ANY Naruto game on the month I got it. You're seriously going to say that you're a "PC Master Race Freak" despite having a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ potato, and say that you're more of a fan of Naruto than me despite you playing the games less AND being dissatisfied with it? Man, ♥♥♥♥ off. You don't know what you're talking about, you can't even validate sources let alone play a game of Naruto.
EDIT2: And you're seriously arguing that Storm 3 > Storm Revolution despite playing Revolution around 30 more hours than Storm 3. You said you'd refund UNSR if it weren't for enjoying the anime so much, yet it sounds to me like you're more borderline refunding Storm 3 than R. Not only that, you didn't refund UNSR yet you refunded 4, despite being "such a big fan to not refund how dissatisfied I was with a game I played more than what satisfied me". Sounds to me like you're just a butthurt kid who needs to go to bed a bit earlier in the night.