Whats so bad about denuvo?

[Cagkan]

Why are people so against it? Asking bcs I dunno.

[space]

it makes pirates cry

[Johnny]

it is an anti cheating software..........

[space]

Originally posted by Johnny:

it is an anti cheating software..........

this doesn't use denuvo anti cheat, it uses denuvo anti tamper

[sgrey]

It can lock you out of playing the game you bought for a number of reasons, including something like a driver update.

[Kyrus86]

Originally posted by space:

it makes pirates cry

Pirates don't have to bother with Denuvo, paying customers do.

[☣lolers Mick Jogers☣]

Originally posted by Johnny:

it is an anti cheating software..........

It’s anti piracy software not anti cheat

[space]

Originally posted by Kyrus86:

Pirates don't have to bother with Denuvo

course they don't bother with it, it bothers them

[☣lolers Mick Jogers☣]

Originally posted by Kyrus86:

Originally posted by space:

it makes pirates cry

Pirates don't have to bother with Denuvo, paying customers do.

Yea since pirates aren’t able to play The game at all

[Johnny]

Originally posted by space:

Originally posted by Johnny:

it is an anti cheating software..........

this doesn't use denuvo anti cheat, it uses denuvo anti tamper

thanks for the info

[MegaMan]

Ignoring the troll...

1. Performance impact. Games with Denuvo suffer varying levels of fps drops and increased loading times. This happens regardless if you have a great PC or not, it's just more noticeable on lower end devices.

2. It requires online authentication to play, and it needs to reauthenticate frequently. If you don't do so, you can't play the game. Doesn't matter if it's a single player game and can normally run offline without a problem, you don't get to play. Especially bad now that Steam Deck is a thing and is used for on the go gaming.

3. If the Denuvo servers go down for any reason, that means no authentication and you again can't play the game you paid for.

4. From a company standpoint, it's a big chunk of cash to implement Denuvo and turns prospective buyers away. You'll see the company (and a whole lot of idiots on Steam discussions) claim people who don't like Denuvo are just pirates, which is when you know they're washed. It tanks goodwill and turns legitimate buyers away while pirates will just wait for Denuvo to be removed.

[女無さん]

It forces you to rent the game on Denuvo's terms.

It enables developers to alter the single player game without your consent. Say, pressures from outside wants to censor or remove something.

It ♥♥♥♥♥ with Linux players.

It imposes restrictions on the player for no benefit to the consumer. Do you as a person who bought it care if others get it for free? Arguably not.

It introduces additional overhead for the CPU.

And because of all the reasons above, it devalues the product.

[Kyo Tanaka]

Long story short, because you *need* internet to play a game you bought. Denuvo constantly keeps checking the game you bought as if you suddenly decide to pirate it AFTER you bought the game. This has hit performance, and not only that but there has been VIDEO EVIDENCE of performance taking a hit over Denuvo. This constant checks requires you to be online, or you can't play the game you bought. There's also an issue where if you constantly make changes to your rig, like say updating drivers or changing protons on Steam Deck, Denuvo sees that as a piracy attempt and locks you out for a period.

The worst part about Denuvo is that it attempts to solve a problem that was *already solved* through a much friendlier alternative. Denuvo however insists on being the boogieman of the industry for whatever reason.

Anyone that says it makes pirate cry is delusional. It makes them laugh. Denuvo has and always will tuck over paying customers. Anyone that says otherwise should be disregarded.

[Pheace]

Originally posted by Kyrus86:

Originally posted by space:

it makes pirates cry

Pirates don't have to bother with Denuvo, paying customers do.

This is certainly not true anymore for most of them. Denuvo games aren't getting cracked anymore, for years already. The only means they have left of pirating has them playing the game with Denuvo included.

Originally posted by grumpymoose:

TL;DR: DRM, when it goes wrong, only ever effects the legitimate customers not the pirates.

Ironically also not true anymore for the same reasons.

[☣lolers Mick Jogers☣]

Originally posted by MegaMan:

Ignoring the troll...

1. Performance impact. Games with Denuvo suffer varying levels of fps drops and increased loading times. This happens regardless if you have a great PC or not, it's just more noticeable on lower end devices.

2. It requires online authentication to play, and it needs to reauthenticate frequently. If you don't do so, you can't play the game. Doesn't matter if it's a single player game and can normally run offline without a problem, you don't get to play. Especially bad now that Steam Deck is a thing and is used for on the go gaming.

3. If the Denuvo servers go down for any reason, that means no authentication and you again can't play the game you paid for.

4. From a company standpoint, it's a big chunk of cash to implement Denuvo and turns prospective buyers away. You'll see the company (and a whole lot of idiots on Steam discussions) claim people who don't like Denuvo are just pirates, which is when you know they're washed. It tanks goodwill and turns legitimate buyers away while pirates will just wait for Denuvo to be removed.

1. There are multiple benchmarks online showing little to no performance impact from Denuvo depending on the game. Games like Resident Evil Village and Hogwarts Legacy have shown negligible FPS differences post-removal. It’s not universally harmful it depends on how it's implemented.

2. I personally played Black Myth offline for 3 weeks on my ROG Ally while traveling. No issues, no forced reauthentication. So no, Denuvo doesn't always require constant online access, especially once the game is verified.

3.If Denuvo's servers ever went down permanently, publishers would have every incentive to patch it out. Why? Because they’re still paying monthly for software that no longer functions. Keeping it in would cost them money for nothing and break their own product so no, it’s not some apocalypse scenario.

4. Saying it’s “a big chunk of cash” is misleading. Denuvo typically charges a flat licensing fee and a % of each sale. Even if a game makes just 1 million sales in its first month, that’s barely 1% profit lost a dent especially if it deters piracy during the critical launch window.

[HokageSama]

Originally posted by space:

it makes pirates cry

Pirates cry
Those who care about security cry
And when they remove content from the game and there is no crack for the old version to play, there will be cry too

In the end, everyone cry