Is there possibly a secret ending where.. (spoilers)

[kalirion]

Deadsuit doesn't die? Maybe find a module or something to stop Construct's Power Words or whatever from working on her and take him on in a True Final Boss Fight or something?

[Donnicton]

Nobody knows yet.

[stevo]

Honestly I can't help thinking there has to be something else. The game was too short and it just sort of ends in a gigantic whimper.

[Sticky White Stuff]

Nope. 2 Endings, that's it. Matt said he might add free DLC in the future. Also, free, never paid. He is thinking of adding probably more bosses and some other things if he has the time. Plus, Deadsuit is Charley, the sister of Pasha . She remembers that at the very end if you find the escape pod.

[Master Blaster]

So heres what I think, Construct was split into 3 personalities as evident by the dialogue during the cut machinist, the construct, the old man (Whatever his name is) and the 3rd in my guess is the deadsuit, Charley who died actually possessed the deadsuit which is proven by the ending and the snipets of conversations between Blue and the other people.

So ultimately Charley was just living on borrowed time and knew that she couldn't fight the Construct because even the old man said they cannot fight eachother and just said you'll probably die, finding your escape pod is what brings the realization of who you are, there is definitely more lore that needs to be discovered

[Pato_Manco]

Originally posted by Master Blaster:

So heres what I think, Construct was split into 3 personalities as evident by the dialogue during the cut machinist, the construct, the old man (Whatever his name is) and the 3rd in my guess is the deadsuit, Charley who died actually possessed the deadsuit which is proven by the ending and the snipets of conversations between Blue and the other people.

So ultimately Charley was just living on borrowed time and knew that she couldn't fight the Construct because even the old man said they cannot fight eachother and just said you'll probably die, finding your escape pod is what brings the realization of who you are, there is definitely more lore that needs to be discovered

I really don't know what the deadsuit "is", or at least I haven't found anything that explicitly explains it at all in-game (other than a vessel for 'new beginnings' as stated right in the beginning and by some other characters) , but the three-way split is very much explained, and the deadsuit is not part of that split. You get Saymund, the Construct, and the third part was pure spirit (or ghost) that went to the sun to be eaten by the worm-god and kill it inside out, but that didn't work out as they expected and so they're locked in a stalemate.

[Master Blaster]

Originally posted by Pato_Manco:

Originally posted by Master Blaster:

So heres what I think, Construct was split into 3 personalities as evident by the dialogue during the cut machinist, the construct, the old man (Whatever his name is) and the 3rd in my guess is the deadsuit, Charley who died actually possessed the deadsuit which is proven by the ending and the snipets of conversations between Blue and the other people.

So ultimately Charley was just living on borrowed time and knew that she couldn't fight the Construct because even the old man said they cannot fight eachother and just said you'll probably die, finding your escape pod is what brings the realization of who you are, there is definitely more lore that needs to be discovered

I really don't know what the deadsuit "is", or at least I haven't found anything that explicitly explains it at all in-game (other than a vessel for 'new beginnings' as stated right in the beginning and by some other characters) , but the three-way split is very much explained, and the deadsuit is not part of that split. You get Saymund, the Construct, and the third part was pure spirit (or ghost) that went to the sun to be eaten by the worm-god and kill it inside out, but that didn't work out as they expected and so they're locked in a stalemate.

So a ghost is the 3rd part, the deadsuit was inhabited by a ghost, and the fact that Charley doesn't even attack the Construct despite knowing its intent, Saymund literally states that he cannot stop the Construct because they cannot have conflict between them, additionally if you recall one of the Bounty hunters actually knows what the Deadsuit is and the fact that Charley did not know what she had come across and was demanding that she relinquish it...or something to that degree, this indicates the Deadsuit is known and powerful, the fact that it explains the 3 vessel is a ghost I think its not far fetched to think that the Deadsuit might be the 3rd part of construct, Also if you listen to Saymunds ramblings throughout the game he opens up to "Little Blue" acting with a familiarity, I'm almost positive if someone were to disect his dialogue ramblings there might be some timbits of information regarding the deadsuit. Though until more concrete evidence comes forward this is purely speculation.

[Pato_Manco]

The problem with that is that we're literally told the third part is a ghost that is inside the worm-god in the sun. Unless that's a lie, then there's nothing pointing to the deathsuit having anything to do with the Construct trinity.

[Master Blaster]

Originally posted by Pato_Manco:

The problem with that is that we're literally told the third part is a ghost that is inside the worm-god in the sun. Unless that's a lie, then there's nothing pointing to the deathsuit having anything to do with the Construct trinity.

It seems like the deadsuit can be piloted by ghosts, the third part is a ghost in the sun, so wouldn't it be plausable to say the deadsuit is the third construct minus the ghost? They seem to put emphasis that the third construct was a ghost, and Charley is very much a ghost, so my theory could still hold water

[Xaneorath]

Hmm, I wouldnt say its impossible the whole thing with the ghost in the worm-god is a metaphorical view. It could very well be the Deadsuit, even without being a lie, if we consider the whole world to be "inside the worm-god" (I think Saymund mightve said something hinting to it?), the mere existance of something like the Deadsuit might cause that stalemate.
Another thing, perhaps pointing to a metaphor, is that ghosts, spirits and the like usualy live in planes detached from physical reality and follow different rules. So I dont think our reasoning "it is within the sun within the worm-god", governed by our own existence in time and space, necessarily holds true. Maybe Saymunds dialogue at the water edge might clarify some of how it works in that fictional world?

So ... yeah, its an intriguing thought I believe, Master Blaster! ^^
I dont see any reason not to speculate the deadsuit might be the ghostly part of the three brothers. Also: Another part of the three became a machine too, so if one part is machine and one is human, why not speculate a hybrid existence for the ghost? Both and at the same time both not. (Wasnt there another conversation hinting in that direction?)
I think that might even give some romantic touch to the whole thing, with the Deadsuit "holding" Charlie some time, before she has to depart. He is such a nice ship.

Another, more down to earth, explanation might be that Construct was working on something to get his third part out of the worm god (it might not be the most convenient experience to have one third of oneself constantly be devoured, I guess?). That would explain his fervor. And Deadsuit might have been one (failed?) attempt at doing so.

[Coniglio Robotico]

Originally posted by GLUE:

Nope. 2 Endings, that's it. Matt said he might add free DLC in the future. Also, free, never paid. He is thinking of adding probably more bosses and some other things if he has the time. Plus, Deadsuit is Charley, the sister of Pasha . She remembers that at the very end if you find the escape pod.

For the spoiler, yeah, that's also hinted when she suggests the sculpture subject, describing the animal from the book that girl was reading before dying :(

[Doctor TacoChocolate]

Originally posted by Master Blaster:

Originally posted by Pato_Manco:

The problem with that is that we're literally told the third part is a ghost that is inside the worm-god in the sun. Unless that's a lie, then there's nothing pointing to the deathsuit having anything to do with the Construct trinity.

It seems like the deadsuit can be piloted by ghosts, the third part is a ghost in the sun, so wouldn't it be plausable to say the deadsuit is the third construct minus the ghost? They seem to put emphasis that the third construct was a ghost, and Charley is very much a ghost, so my theory could still hold water

You really, really want your theory to be right and it just isn't. Why would Charley's ghost be the third part? Charley was a person separate from the guy that Relic split in three.

[Master Blaster]

Originally posted by Doctor TacoChocolate:

Originally posted by Master Blaster:

It seems like the deadsuit can be piloted by ghosts, the third part is a ghost in the sun, so wouldn't it be plausable to say the deadsuit is the third construct minus the ghost? They seem to put emphasis that the third construct was a ghost, and Charley is very much a ghost, so my theory could still hold water

You really, really want your theory to be right and it just isn't. Why would Charley's ghost be the third part? Charley was a person separate from the guy that Relic split in three.

You clearly didn't read what I said, I said the DEADSUIT is the 3rd one, not Charley's ghost, my theory is the original construct ghost and deadsuit were as one, and the worm god drew out the "original construct ghost" from the deadsuit (For however long the deadsuit was inactive I dunno) but this allowed Charley to take possession of the empty "ship"

[Yaman]

Bottom left corner of the Junkpit there is a "drift area" door you could normally destroy by shooting, it still closed for me.
Maybe Mutt or new game+ related, maybe I need to progress/collect more or see both endings, get luck to 8 or witness all events.

[Plumber]

^ that regenerating wall is invincible even if you reduce its visible health to 0 and is removed as part of Mutt’s questline. If you didn’t keep up with Mutt as you return the ship parts, it will never open up.
The rewards are optional and are not tied to the game’s endings.

[kalirion]

Originally posted by Plumber:

^ that regenerating wall is invincible even if you reduce its visible health to 0 and is removed as part of Mutt’s questline. If you didn’t keep up with Mutt as you return the ship parts, it will never open up.
The rewards are optional and are not tied to the game’s endings.

No, apparently you can force-progress the time by saving/quitting/loading the game and speaking to Roper at the ship, even after collecting all the parts. Worked for me, despite me never speaking to Mutt until after collecting the parts.